Poland's Government Sponsorship of Anti-Homosexual Violence

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    Jun 20, 2007 7:24 PM GMT
    The story below was emailed me from a friend about the exodus for gays from Poland. As you can read below, this event is horrific to read about. As much as some might want to agrue, this is a prime example of what we call "the first step". We see places like Sudan who are several steps in and we shop to help them. We look at the Middle East and see them several steps in where they kill homosexuals. We see China several steps in where they capture "agitators". Now we are seeing Poland beginning this process.

    Just wanted to share.

    Polish Gay Community Reportedly Fleeing Country
    by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
    Posted: June 20, 2007 - 1:00 pm ET

    (London) Poland's LGBT community is fleeing the country as government sponsored persecution mounts an LGBT civil rights activist said on Wednesday.

    Robert Biedron, head of the Polish Foundation Against Homophobia, said thousands of gays have packed up and left - many to Germany and the UK.

    "It is incredible. The Polish gay community has just moved away because of the climate of fear and persecution," Biedron told The Daily Mail.

    "Most of the people I know are now in England because of the current political situation. Not for economic reasons, but because of the persecution of homosexuals going on here.

    Biedron said that "Many gays are approaching our foundation for help in emigrating to the UK."

    Earlier this month more than five-thousand people marched through the streets of Warsaw in the first legally sanctioned LGBT pride parade in the Polish capital. Many of the marchers carried banners reading "Stop homophobia". (story)

    The march was held following a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights that Warsaw's former Mayor Lech Kaczynski - now Poland's President - acted illegally and discriminatory in banning previous gay pride marches.

    When he was mayor Kaczynski rejected parade applications from 2004 to 2006.

    In 2005 dozens of militant youths were waiting as the marchers arrived at the Parliament buildings and pelted the crowd with eggs. Police struggled to try to regain order, but were vastly outnumbered.

    Last year, the State Prosecutor's office issued a letter to prosecutors in the municipalities of Legnica, Wroclaw, Walbryzch, Opole and Jelenia Gora ordering in sweeping terms investigations into the conduct of "homosexuals" on unspecified allegations of "pedophilia."

    Biedron told the Daily News Wednesday the government has used a bomb threat two years ago by a man allegedly upset over the cancellation of gay pride as pretext for collecting the names and addresses of gays and lesbians even though such a list is a violation of European Union law.

    The government also is pushing through parliament legislation that would make it a criminal offence to "promote homosexual propaganda" in schools. (story)

    If passed the measure would essentially censor all discussion of homosexuality in schools and other academic institutions. LGBT organizations would be barred from schools and "teachers who reveal their homosexuality will be fired from work."

    In addition the health ministry reportedly has created a special committee to examine ways of "curing" homosexuality.

    ©365Gay.com 2007
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    Jun 21, 2007 7:16 AM GMT
    The ability to go to another country more easily is the only good thing about Poland being part of the EU. Gay Poles can get the hell out of an awful country that shouldn’t be part of the EU to begin with. Poland will suffer because of its hatred and intolerance…deservedly so.

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    Jun 21, 2007 2:14 PM GMT
    The idea of forming a gay army has entered my mind again. It's a fantasy. I'd like to take about a million gay people (men and women) and go kick some Polish butt. How soon the bastards have forgotten the lessons of WWII.
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    Jun 21, 2007 7:38 PM GMT
    Well, I am Polish, and I moved to Chicago not because I am gay. But If I lived there I would probably be somewhere else now. My friends are moving out already. Goverment will regret that. Thats what they want sick homophobiest.

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    Jun 21, 2007 7:42 PM GMT
    Sorry, man, I shouldn't have said Polish in particular. It's not just Poland. It's everywhere. Some people need to be smacked down real hard.
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    Jun 22, 2007 8:49 AM GMT
    Agreed. Poland is not as bad as Iran, for example. A read through


    will break your heart (and make you mad?). It is just not possible to help all the people in the world that need help and take down a peg or two the people that deserve it.
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    Jun 22, 2007 10:48 AM GMT
    holy crap. thats scary stuff.
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    Jun 22, 2007 12:43 PM GMT
    I am very surprised that this happens in a country that is part of the E.U.
    Unfortunately leaving the country is not a good solution for everyone.I suppose that many of them leave their careers and go to a country in which they will not be apreciated at their real value.
    And to think that there are guys on this site who are saying that they don't like to be labbeled as gay,and that they don't like gay prides and gay culture.I think Poland is a good option for them.they should go and live there a couple of years and I am sure they will see things from a different perspective.
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    Jun 22, 2007 12:57 PM GMT
    "will break your heart (and make you mad?). "

    Yep, my blood's boiling and I'm choked up at the same time. F*******CK!
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    Jun 23, 2007 5:47 AM GMT
    To a large extent, the intolerance and oppression in Poland arise from the process and product of the Catholic Church--perhaps the world's most intrusive influence on the personal lives of humankind. The two twin lunatics who now run the Polish government are entirely under the oppressive thumb of the Vatican and its hypocritical administrators. Speak out against the Polish government--of course--but please understand who pulls the strings in that country's "moral" decision-making process. Whatever you think or believe about god and/or religion, just remember: The Catholic Church is NOT your "friend." Never was; never will be.
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    Jun 23, 2007 9:26 PM GMT
    I agree with everything buzzed-Tom said; a lot of Poland's problems do stemp form the Catholic Church's conduct. At the very least, the Catholic Church has exacerbated Poland's problems. Now, I hoenstly do not have anything against any religion, but I do not like it when religious officials intrude into people's private lives and tell people how to live.

    I am especially sick of the Catholic Church and their 'family values' bullshit - which is what it is really because we all know that there is no such thing as the 'happy family'. It's just an idealised myth that is totally out of touch with reality. In reality, families argue, have break-ups, divorces, separations, domestic violence etc. But of course, the ignorant Polish government and their masters (read slave-owners)the Catholic Church ignore reality. Instead, they live in a world where everyone's lives would be perfect if only they were to subscribe to this old-fashioned family lifestyle.

    I agree that the Polish government has become a joke. Furthermore, that whole (fascist) youth nationalist movement which has overtaken Poland is sickening as well; it reeks of Hitler's youth movement all over again. You have to wonder why so many people have left Poland since it became a member of the EU (and before that even). How can the reactionaries who now run Poland, and their skin head, yob friends, be so proud and deluded about their own country. If their country is so perfect, then how come so many people are leaving it each year? Isn't that a sign that something is wrong with Poland? A mass exodus of skilled people is not something to be taken lightly. It's a serious problem, yet the government ignores that problem and obsesses over homosexuality instead.

    I am sorry if any of this offends Polish people. I am not having a go at you. I agree with those who say Britain and the US have their problems as well. We have homophobia in the west too. It's just that the Polish government really pisses me off. They've become worse than the Soviet administration before them. Only this time the government is the Vatican's puppet and not Moscow's puppet.
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    Jul 19, 2007 7:53 PM GMT
    That's sad. Poland was my favorite country to visit when in Europe. Dang.