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    Feb 11, 2011 8:40 AM GMT
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    Feb 11, 2011 11:44 AM GMT
    My philosophy is 'go hard or stay home':

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    Feb 11, 2011 1:20 PM GMT
    Can you guess who this is?



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    Feb 11, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    40PPS saidCan you guess who this is?



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    No. Really. Not possible to tell.
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    Feb 11, 2011 1:55 PM GMT
    Good grief she's 65 years old. What is she supposed to look like?!? icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Feb 11, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
    The other day I watched Calvin Klein working out with his trainer at the gym.
    Sure, he's 70+ at this point. He had the mega cheek implants and eyes pulled back. Looked more like an old woman. But the workout itself was painful to watch. He kept winching in pain and would walk away and pace back and forth and not really do much with whatever machine he was on.
    The trainer didn't react as if this is what happens with him all the time.

    One of my clients is Jocelyn Wildenstein. She is actually one of the most lovely people I've met. She has lived such an amazing life. And she's a riot as well!
    I was more curios than nervous the first time I met with her. All the people around her are very sensitive towards new people in her life and they all stared at me for my reaction. After a while I came to look forward to spending time with her and when she moved back to LA while her NY apartment was being rebuilt, I went through this odd mourning period where I missed her.

    Point is. Some people have their feelings about themselves tucked deep inside, some where it right up front. They may seem pathetic to onlookers, but they're actually quite strong people.

    A lot of us on here are on the young side and maybe don't have a disposal income. I don't think anyone can honestly answer whether they "would or wouldn't" if the actual situation wasn't present. But given that a lot of us are body obsessed with working out, basically changing your appearance, we're the perfect targets to do whatever it takes to stay looking good, even if that perception is a little off when the time comes.
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    Feb 11, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
    I absolutely cried when I saw what Rupert Everett had done to his face. Thankgoodness he has grown a beard and the puffyness from all the botox has subsided somewhat.

    What a handsome and charming man he once was. He looked a rugged and sexy 51 years old.

    Now, he looks like an old queen with something to hide.

    The best instant facelift is just to smile, and of course, flex your pecs.
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    Feb 11, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    woofydude saidI absolutely cried when I saw what Rupert Everett had done to his face. Thankgoodness he has grown a beard and the puffyness from all the botox has subsided somewhat.



    I agree. Rupertt Everett actually looked better pre-plastic surgery. I have nothing against plastic surgery -- especially some of the skin resurfacing advances they have made -- but it's a shame when someone takes it too far. That's mostly the fault of the doctor though -- they should know better and be held accountable when a patient spends all that money only to come out looking worse than they did going in. What doctors did to Michael Jackson and that Jocelyn "The Cat Woman" Wildenstein should be a crime. A little nip & tuck is one thing, but total disfigurement of the face is quite another.
  • CAtoFL

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    Feb 11, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    I think you have to include Kenny Rogers in the 'worst ever' lineup.

    That said, I think it's a personal decision. These performers are coming into their 70s and the image of how they looked 20 years ago is pretty well imprinted on society's consciousness. They have the money, so I can see why they'd take a shot at turning back the clock. I think the issue is that their surgeries are so notably poor. As a friend once told me, 'you don't notice the good work, you only notice the disasters'.

    The reason they take these measures is in abundant evidence right here on Real Jock. There's an endless litany of posts with members hating on older guys. Even as 'old' as 30 get disrespected. There's such an overblown idolization of inevitably fleeting youth in America that doctors can sell 'youth' to those tired of putting up with it.

    Five hundred years after Ponce de León was sniffing around Florida looking for the Fountain of Youth, there are still those who are trying to find it.




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    Feb 11, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    lifecast2020 said
    One of my clients is Jocelyn Wildenstein. She is actually one of the most lovely people I've met. She has lived such an amazing life. And she's a riot as well!
    I was more curios than nervous the first time I met with her. All the people around her are very sensitive towards new people in her life and they all stared at me for my reaction. After a while I came to look forward to spending time with her and when she moved back to LA while her NY apartment was being rebuilt, I went through this odd mourning period where I missed her.


    I thought I read somewhere that she's had more work done and looks more or less normal now.


    I am very hesitant to have any kind of surgery on my face because I tend to heal slowly. I would like something done with my upper eyelids, though. They are very heavy and will eventually become an issue. My grandmother has surgery when she was in her late 60's because they impeded her vision and I have the same eyes.
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    Feb 11, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
    If someone wants to fight wrinkling genuinely, without just having injections to puff or paralyze something, they should have their face professionally needled. It promotes and produces collagen to naturally fill in wrinkles or even scars.
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:03 PM GMT
    "professionally needled"? icon_eek.gif Do you mean accupuncture?
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    WOW! That doctor did an amazing job!
    He got rid of the major/extreme wrinkles without giving him 'wind-tunnel' face.
    I'd totally hire him- the doctor.
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    On some of these people it is age too. Not just a botched attempt to look young. Even with the work done, your body is still aging (well, except me of course...I never age!) LOL
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
    Rupert looks better aged. I think a little botox here and thereis fine.

    Things like nose jobs, chin jobs etc are ok, it that's what you want to do to your face. But, men should always stay away from messing with their eyes and lips. They look weird after.
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    lifecast2020 saidThe other day I watched ....... working out with his trainer at the gym.
    Sure, he's 70+ at this point. He had the mega cheek implants and eyes pulled back. Looked more like an old woman. But the workout itself was painful to watch. He kept winching in pain and would walk away and pace back and forth and not really do much with whatever machine he was on.
    The trainer didn't react as if this is what happens with him all the time.

    One of my clients is........ She is actually one of the most lovely people I've met. She has lived such an amazing life. And she's a riot ...


    Please don't take this personally, but if you were someone's ''celebrity" client and they announced it on an RJ forum, would you not re-think the person's ability to work with discretion? Building a reliable practice off of reputation as a consulate professional, including evidence of a list of noted clients, also requires avoiding obvious name-dropping, no? Just a thought, because you strike me as a smart, ambitious and respected guy.
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    Feb 11, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    5ebastian said

    I think certain doctors should be held accountable for their actions. In fact I think certain procedures should be made illegal. This thread is not meant to poke and make fun or ridicule people that opt for plastic surgery [in fact i think its a great tool for enhancement]. But its amazing the lengths that people go to to stay "young". I can understand for some people its a business and theres pressure to look a certain way... but in all honesty... why in the world would you pay a doctor to do this to your face?

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    I don't think doctors should be responsible for any of this. People need to start taking responsibility to their own actions. If people chose to do this to your face, than there nothing that the doctors should be held responsible. The doctors need to inform the risk and possible outcomes. That's all the doctors have to do. After that its people's choice, discretion and responsibility.
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    Feb 11, 2011 4:50 PM GMT
    It's a shame we don't consider people beautiful at every age and celebrities feel like they have to embalm themselves just to be presentable. Why on earth should you look the same at 40 as you did at 20? It's bizarre. You see the French have this figured out which is why their stars look great AND mature (have you seen Juliette Binoche lately? She's aging beautifully!).

    I think we "grow" into our faces as we age, actually, and lines are a sign of a lived fully lived. Doesn't mean you shouldn't do shit to look well but why carve yourself up that way. Awful.
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    Feb 11, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    Nobody should do Botox. It looks weird.

    And it doesn't even cover wrinkles anyway.

    Instead, it paralyzes the frowning muscles so you won't wrinkle anymore. . . at least until the Botox wears off.

    But it doesn't do a thing for wrinkles you already have.

    So you look the same as before, except you now have a strange unnatural appearance that looks ten times worse than any wrinkle.

    A relative of mine has this done and it looked just awful. Fortunately it wore off within about six months. She looks fine now.

    Filler, like Restylene (sp?) or Juvederm (sp?) is infinitely better. It works astoundingly well in filling in wrinkles. A simple injection is made at the site of the wrinkle. It is safe, virtually painless and looks completely natural. There's also zero down time. Lasts around 9 months to over a year.
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    Feb 11, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Plastic surgery is stupid, unless your face was severely burned or something horrible out of no where just happen to it or you were born just butt ugly. People should just accept how they look at what ever age they are.
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    Feb 11, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Everytime I see Nicole Kidman now I shake my head. She was perfect before she started down the tragic Hollywood plastic surgery role!
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    Feb 11, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    Joan Rivers, Mickey Rourke and that blonde bimbo, Heidi are others that come to mind.

    Speaking of Michael Jackson, what's with the "one nose fits all" Jackson clan?! Ever noticed that all their new noses look alike???
  • dhinkansas

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    Feb 11, 2011 6:01 PM GMT
    Why is having wrinkles such a terrible thing in our world? Says as much about our culture as it does about the people changing their face to the point of not being recognizeable.

    At 49, hell yeah it's hard to see the changes happening in the mirror. But it's called life. Every mark/wrinkle represents life and it's lessons learned, and I wouldn't change a thing. I've earned the wrinkles through good times and bad, and I fail to see the need to artificially try to look 25 or 30 forever.
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    Feb 11, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    A load of SPF 50 and avoiding the sun like the plague means hopefully I won't have to resort to 'paralox' till I'm 40, but, at the first sign of any wrinkles I'm getting injected for sure.

    There is nothing wrong with wrinkles but if people don't like them they should have the option to get rid of them via injectables if they choose.

    It's all about moderation, btw, that rupert pic is shopped, look at any recent pictures of him he looks NOTHING like this. Drugs have really messed his face up, he used to be gorgeous............
  • joarky123

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    Feb 11, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    For some reason, when i read 'Would you do this to your face?' this was not the direction i thought this thread was going to go. icon_biggrin.gif