thoughts on dianabol??

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    Feb 15, 2011 12:53 AM GMT
    heard some guys talking about it at the gym and was wondering what others thought.
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    Feb 15, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    I've heard the oral form is really rough on the liver - I could swear there was an Injectible form as well. But Im not even close to knowledgable enough about steroids. Most of the oral steroids are alkalized (i think thats the term) so they aren't destroyed in the liver but that causes a sharp rise in liver enzymes and thus is toxic to the liver.

    I recall the convention of use to be 8 weeks or so. There are defintely people on this forum far more versed than I on the matter I have no doubt they will be able to be of more help.
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    Feb 15, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
    It all depends on how you feel about taking an anabolic steroid. I don't think there's a right or a wrong answer and everyone's thoughts are likely going to fall one way or the other, leaving you with a set of opinions that have been rehashed over and over and over again on multiple threads that already exist.

    Anabolic steroids work. They have risks and benefits and side-effects like any drug, or activity. The choice is totally yours.
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    Feb 15, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
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  • massbuildah

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    Feb 15, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
    bryanc_74 saidIt all depends on how you feel about taking an anabolic steroid. I don't think there's a right or a wrong answer and everyone's thoughts are likely going to fall one way or the other, leaving you with a set of opinions that have been rehashed over and over and over again on multiple threads that already exist.

    Anabolic steroids work. They have risks and benefits and side-effects like any drug, or activity. The choice is totally yours.


    Exactly, that said, d-bol may not be the wisest choice to start with, nor should you do it alone. Check out www.steroid.com or bodybuilding.com for information on what it is and how it works and compare to others. So much good information out there, the key is education.

    Only then can you make a solid choice based on your own set of ideals. no choice is necessarily wrong if you stay within your own value system.
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    Feb 15, 2011 5:24 AM GMT
    pjp201 saidI've heard the oral form is really rough on the liver - I could swear there was an Injectible form as well. But Im not even close to knowledgable enough about steroids. Most of the oral steroids are alkalized (i think thats the term) so they aren't destroyed in the liver but that causes a sharp rise in liver enzymes and thus is toxic to the liver.

    I recall the convention of use to be 8 weeks or so. There are defintely people on this forum far more versed than I on the matter I have no doubt they will be able to be of more help.


    D is a "c17" no matter if you inject it, or not. That is, like most oral medicines, it is modified at carbon 17 to pass through the gastric system without losing its effectiveness.

    Not as bad as Tylenol, almost certainly, but, not without some risks at very high doses.

    It's the sort of thing that's easily faked, so, the best source is regular countries (e.g. Mexico, Portugal, Canada, and many parts of Europe) where it's not criminalized to possess.
  • Hunkymonkey

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    Feb 15, 2011 9:14 AM GMT
    I fucking ♥ dbol

    It's perfect for front-bumping a cycle stack because the long-acting oils take up to 3 weeks to really kick in. In 4 weeks, dbol will make you big and strong and you will feel like a beast. In fact, nothing makes you feel so good as dbol. But recognize the downside is that it will put a lot of water on you which you will subsequently piss away. Nevertheless, you will keep something. It will bump up your blood pressure, too, and put a strain on your heart and lungs from such fast weight gain. You'll be a huffin' and a puffin'. Also, it aromatizes easily (one of the causes of water retention), so use nolvadex daily and maybe keep exemestane or arimidex handy.

    As to being rough on the liver, yes it is. But not excessively so, used intelligently. Using dbol for 3 to 6 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Just take your liver protection. I wouldn't go beyond 6 weeks on it mainly because I believe the effectivity stops at about that point. Do not exceed 50mg/day (which is a pretty heavy dose). 25-40mg is more reasonable. The half life is about 4 hours, so in my case, I took my dbol 2 hours before training.

    On my first dbol (50mg/day) & deca (400mg/wk) cycle, I gained 20 lbs in 4 weeks. But there was so much water in my legs, I couldn't walk faster than my great-granddad. If I tried to speed up, I got shin splits from the lower leg pumps and had to stop and rest. In the gym, however, my strength was way up.

    If the water gain is a concern, I'd recommend using turanabol. It doesn't fill you like a balloon, but you get the strength and pumps.
  • Hunkymonkey

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    Feb 15, 2011 9:18 AM GMT
    There is an injectable dbol, made with water, but only one or two UG labs make it. Usually runs around 25mg/ml. One other form is found in Mexico as reforvit-b for animal injections. Also 25mg/ml. However it is in propylene glycol (similar to anti-freeze) and not pleasant to inject if you are human. Orally, it tastes really awful. I used to put it in juice and drink it or in gel caps and swallow. Better off not using it unless you are desperate, IMO.
  • Sparkycat

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    Feb 15, 2011 9:40 AM GMT
    Thanks for all of this info. What do you mean by "front bump a cycle stack"?



    Hunkymonkey saidI fucking ♥ dbol

    It's perfect for front-bumping a cycle stack because the long-acting oils take up to 3 weeks to really kick in. In 4 weeks, dbol will make you big and strong and you will feel like a beast. In fact, nothing makes you feel so good as dbol. But recognize the downside is that it will put a lot of water on you which you will subsequently piss away. Nevertheless, you will keep something. It will bump up your blood pressure, too, and put a strain on your heart and lungs from such fast weight gain. You'll be a huffin' and a puffin'. Also, it aromatizes easily (one of the causes of water retention), so use nolvadex daily and maybe keep exemestane or arimidex handy.

    As to being rough on the liver, yes it is. But not excessively so, used intelligently. Using dbol for 3 to 6 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Just take your liver protection. I wouldn't go beyond 6 weeks on it mainly because I believe the effectivity stops at about that point. Do not exceed 50mg/day (which is a pretty heavy dose). 25-40mg is more reasonable. The half life is about 4 hours, so in my case, I took my dbol 2 hours before training.

    On my first dbol (50mg/day) & deca (400mg/wk) cycle, I gained 20 lbs in 4 weeks. But there was so much water in my legs, I couldn't walk faster than my great-granddad. If I tried to speed up, I got shin splits from the lower leg pumps and had to stop and rest. In the gym, however, my strength was way up.

    If the water gain is a concern, I'd recommend using turanabol. It doesn't fill you like a balloon, but you get the strength and pumps.
  • massbuildah

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    Feb 15, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
    Sparkycat saidThanks for all of this info. What do you mean by "front bump a cycle stack"?



    Hunkymonkey saidI fucking ♥ dbol

    It's perfect for front-bumping a cycle stack because the long-acting oils take up to 3 weeks to really kick in. In 4 weeks, dbol will make you big and strong and you will feel like a beast. In fact, nothing makes you feel so good as dbol. But recognize the downside is that it will put a lot of water on you which you will subsequently piss away. Nevertheless, you will keep something. It will bump up your blood pressure, too, and put a strain on your heart and lungs from such fast weight gain. You'll be a huffin' and a puffin'. Also, it aromatizes easily (one of the causes of water retention), so use nolvadex daily and maybe keep exemestane or arimidex handy.

    As to being rough on the liver, yes it is. But not excessively so, used intelligently. Using dbol for 3 to 6 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Just take your liver protection. I wouldn't go beyond 6 weeks on it mainly because I believe the effectivity stops at about that point. Do not exceed 50mg/day (which is a pretty heavy dose). 25-40mg is more reasonable. The half life is about 4 hours, so in my case, I took my dbol 2 hours before training.

    On my first dbol (50mg/day) & deca (400mg/wk) cycle, I gained 20 lbs in 4 weeks. But there was so much water in my legs, I couldn't walk faster than my great-granddad. If I tried to speed up, I got shin splits from the lower leg pumps and had to stop and rest. In the gym, however, my strength was way up.

    If the water gain is a concern, I'd recommend using turanabol. It doesn't fill you like a balloon, but you get the strength and pumps.



    Front bumping means you would start the dbol at the same time as you start your test and/or other injectables. Those typically take some time to feel the effects, about 3 weeks or so, as he said. The d-bol is faster acting and you can feel the effects pretty quickly. So while you wait for your other stuff to start working you take d-bol to get a quick jump on some gains.
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    Feb 16, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    thanks for all the replies guys, basically, u confirmed all my research ive done for the last 3 days. What about taking dbol alone with no injectable test? I understand one would piss away all the water retention, but ud at lead retain a couple of kilos wouldnt u? i just want to try one 4 week cylce of oral just to get over a plateau ive been stuck on for a year, build a new base and carry on normally from there, im just curious really. ive got a rugby player mate with a reliable source, and id not go over 20mg a day as im very small and stop after 4 weeks due to the hepatotoxic effects of course. I know dbol is mainly used a a bumper for the start of a cycle, but im being a bit over cautious and dont wanna inject anything, im not lookin to become a beast, just to see really. I know id respond well as generally i gain wait very easily, but my genetics, no matter how hard i work are not allowing me to get any bigger, although i have a naturally stocky build. So...... long story short, is a dbol only cycle and big waste of time? and can it be used to overcome a plateu?
  • Hunkymonkey

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    Feb 17, 2011 7:01 AM GMT
    IMO, and I mean IMO, you could do a short dbol cycle and keep a little, but probably not much. For one reason, 4 weeks is just to short for the protein synthesis process (again, IMO). You'd be better doing a short cycle (8 weeks) with 25-30mg/day dbol for 4-6 weeks, plus injectable test for 8. If it's your first cycle, 250mg/week of test would be fine. Then you'd get the 2 or 3 kg you want to keep. Don't worry about hepatotoxicity. In most cases, like 99.999%, it's overstated unless one really abuses stuff or has an inherent liver problem. Anyway, you can take liver protectors.
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:57 PM GMT
    ok guys, everything is taken into account, im gonna do the dbol, just to see how i react to it, then from that, maybe progress onto something else, thanks again for all the advice!!
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    Feb 21, 2011 4:50 PM GMT
    my first experience with roids was d-bol.....strength was great...blew up in size...very watery.....but liked it....kept about 7lbs post cycle

    next cycle was d-bol/ test....loved this cycle.....added another 7lb

    d-bol is very, very common in the uk.....but most people dont realise it only a part of the story...its still down to diet, training and sleep