The Donald: Gays in NYC are great, but gay marriage is bad!

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    Feb 15, 2011 8:38 PM GMT
    "New York is a place with lots of gays, and I think it's great. But I'm not in favor of gay marriage," Trump said in an interview that aired late Monday night on Fox News. "

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49527.html#ixzz1E3tyAAvy

    Apparently the Donald is exploring a possible run for the White House. As a Republican, this terrifies me. How embarrassing. The only GOP I like right now is Jon Huntsman, who came out in favor of civil unions while the Governor of Utah.
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    Feb 15, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
    Ah... this is unfortunate. Most republicans are against gay marriage though, so it's not too surprising to see he has the same views.
    I'm just gonna hope he doesn't make it to the very end. icon_surprised.gif
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    Feb 15, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    rightturn said...The only GOP I like right now is Jon Huntsman, who came out in favor of civil unions while the Governor of Utah.

    Don't worry, he'll amend his position to strongly anti-gay, if he really wants the Republican nod for US President. All Republican Presidential contenders MUST be anti-gay, or else they aren't in the running. Do any RJ members here dispute that?

    This is what the Republican Party requires, part of your litmus test. You must be anti-gay, or you can't run for anything under their banner.
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    Feb 15, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
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    rightturn said...The only GOP I like right now is Jon Huntsman, who came out in favor of civil unions while the Governor of Utah.

    Don't worry, he'll amend his position to anti-gay, if he really wants the Republican nod for US President. All Republican Presidential contenders MUST be anti-gay, or they aren't in the running. Do any RJ members here dispute that?

    This is what the Republican Party requires, part of your litmus test. You must be anti-gay, or you can't run for anything.



    I believe we'll see a change in the GOP toward inclusion. That's why I won't change party affiliation - be part of the change...
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    Feb 15, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    He is also now pro-life.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/11/donald-trump-family-values-conservative-believe-it-or-not/
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    Feb 15, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
    rightturn saidI believe we'll see a change in the GOP toward inclusion. That's why I won't change party affiliation - be part of the change...

    Say rather, be part of the deception. I'm sorry to see you promoting it. icon_sad.gif
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    Feb 15, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
    And he's had how many of those 'sacred' marriages of his fail?
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    Feb 15, 2011 9:14 PM GMT
    No Republican will win without pandering to the religious crazies in the mid-west and south. If you are for a woman's right to choose you will literally lose 50% of the conservative vote because you are'nt pandering to some people's religious beliefs.
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    Feb 15, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    Two wrds for the Don...... You're Fired!
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    Feb 15, 2011 9:33 PM GMT
    So now he has the same position as Barack Obama. Is that really surprising?
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    Feb 15, 2011 9:34 PM GMT
    TawlBlond saidAnd he's had how many of those 'sacred' marriages of his fail?

    Just a side story: my ex-BF was invited to the christening of one of Trumps's kids, I think Eric by Ivana. Well, whatever one it was, my ex was seated right behind them in a church pew. And when the Trumps departed, this solid sterling silver baby rattler was left behind.

    So he grabbed it for himself, later showing it to me. And I was horrified. Why didn't you return it to the Trumps? It's not yours!

    Well, he rationalized every which way. They left it behind, it was finders keepers, etc, etc. WRONG. You knew who the owners were, end of story.

    He fell to the bottom of my respect list after that. And contributed to my dumping him as my BF very soon after. Stealing a baby's rattler? How about candy from a baby, too? icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 16, 2011 11:20 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    rightturn said...The only GOP I like right now is Jon Huntsman, who came out in favor of civil unions while the Governor of Utah.

    Don't worry, he'll amend his position to strongly anti-gay, if he really wants the Republican nod for US President. All Republican Presidential contenders MUST be anti-gay, or else they aren't in the running. Do any RJ members here dispute that?

    This is what the Republican Party requires, part of your litmus test. You must be anti-gay, or you can't run for anything under their banner.


    This is why america needs more than just two political parties.
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    Feb 16, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
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    This is why america needs more than just two political parties.


    I agree! But that will happen when hell freezes over since our two-party system is filled with sleaze-filled, money-hungry, blood-sucking, lying SOB's! Now, that's not to say there aren't voices of reason, sanity, and honesty; they are just drowned out time and time again.

    Flip-flopping, lying, and a lust for power and money. Hmmm...it sounds like politics as usual, no?
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:01 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSo now he has the same position as Barack Obama. Is that really surprising?



    ...and Hillary Clinton...and Joe Biden...is anyone else seeing a pattern here? icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:04 AM GMT
    rightturn said


    I believe we'll see a change in the GOP toward inclusion. That's why I won't change party affiliation - be part of the change...


    Exactly!
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
    I totally agree with Donald Trump. Getting MARRIED is just waste of money. Just live together like Brad/ Angelina Jolie, Goldie Hawn/Kirk Russell & others. I know 2 gay friends got married then after a year they separated. I have few friends they live together for over 10 years & the other one 15 years & never get married. Why ruin a beautiful relationship.

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    Feb 17, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    mocktwinkie saidSo now he has the same position as Barack Obama. Is that really surprising?



    ...and Hillary Clinton...and Joe Biden...is anyone else seeing a pattern here? icon_wink.gif


    Apparently only we do!
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    rightturn said"New York is a place with lots of gays, and I think it's great. But I'm not in favor of gay marriage," Trump said in an interview that aired late Monday night on Fox News. "

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49527.html#ixzz1E3tyAAvy

    Apparently the Donald is exploring a possible run for the White House. As a Republican, this terrifies me. How embarrassing. The only GOP I like right now is Jon Huntsman, who came out in favor of civil unions while the Governor of Utah.


    i think the whole gay marriage thing is rediculous. i mean, who really cares how I chose to life MY life? It's as stupid as saying, 24 year old men can not wear blue shirts, im strongly against it. Who cares?! lol. I will live my life how I want to, and you life your life how you want to. I don't care what you raise your kids to believe, what religion you follow, or anything else. thats your problem, not mine. I don't interfere with you, you shouldn't be able to interfere with me.


    BOOM.


    hah
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    Feb 17, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    str8hardbody9 saidI totally agree with Donald Trump. Getting MARRIED is just waste of money. Just live together like Brad/ Angelina Jolie, Goldie Hawn/Kirk Russell & others. I know 2 gay friends got married then after a year they separated. I have few friends they live together for over 10 years & the other one 15 years & never get married. Why ruin a beautiful relationship.



    yeah, but i want some nice bling to rock.. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 17, 2011 1:01 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSo now he has the same position as Barack Obama. Is that really surprising?


    Nice attempt, but a fail, I'm afraid. Because at least Pres Obama has just recently said that his position is EVOLVBING !!!! And we all know the gopers can't get behind that evolving thing--would just turn off more fundie crtazies!!

    Obama gets points for publicly stating that his position is EVOLVING. Show me a Rethuglican who can state that and not lose any hope of getting his/her party's nomination. BIG DIFFERENCE between the two parties, no??
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    Feb 17, 2011 1:56 AM GMT
    str8hardbody9 saidI totally agree with Donald Trump. Getting MARRIED is just waste of money. Just live together like Brad/ Angelina Jolie, Goldie Hawn/Kirk Russell & others. I know 2 gay friends got married then after a year they separated. I have few friends they live together for over 10 years & the other one 15 years & never get married. Why ruin a beautiful relationship.

    That has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen here. What wealthy celebrities do is hardly relevant to the rest of us.

    Issues like hospital visitation rights, inheritance, Social Security benefits, and a hundred other things are involved here with legal marriage. You really are clueless.

    The very first thing my partner & I did, when we got together, was to draw up powers of attorney, health care surrogate agreements, and a raft of other documents, that wouldn't have been necessary had we simply been married legally.

    And even then we can't be sure this red State here will honor & respect these things. There have been tragic exceptions in the past. Nor will the Federal government acknowledge us, thanks to DOMA. I don't get his Social Security, nor can he get mine if one of us dies, and he can't get my Army pension, either. My former wife could, but he's disqualified under DOMA.

    Getting married is a waste of money, huh? What an idiot you are. Donald Trump would say that, since that slimy alley cat has been made to pay out millions for his fucking around outside his marriages. Use him as your personal model, by all means. But unless you happen to be a billionaire, you're a more pathetic loser than he is.
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    Feb 17, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
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    str8hardbody9 saidI totally agree with Donald Trump. Getting MARRIED is just waste of money. Just live together like Brad/ Angelina Jolie, Goldie Hawn/Kirk Russell & others. I know 2 gay friends got married then after a year they separated. I have few friends they live together for over 10 years & the other one 15 years & never get married. Why ruin a beautiful relationship.



    I disagree! You are forgetting that the point of gay marriage is RIGHTS which are denied to us as tax paying citizens.

    One must remember the mantra of the republican party.. moral authoritarianism.