BRUTAL MURDER: Teen Shoots + Hacks Gay Roommate To Death After He 'Turned Straight Again'

  • metta

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    Feb 16, 2011 5:50 PM GMT

    BRUTAL MURDER: Teen Shoots + Hacks Gay Roommate To Death After He 'Turned Straight Again'

    http://www.queerty.com/brutal-murder-teen-shoots-hacks-gay-roommate-to-death-after-he-turned-straight-again-20110216/#ixzz1E94VtOF0
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    Feb 16, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    I dunno, in North Carolina the gay panic defense may let him walk free. We shall see...
  • metta

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    Feb 16, 2011 6:41 PM GMT

    Michael Anderson Shoots, Hatchets Adopted Father Stephen Starr to Death


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    What he may not have known is that Anderson was a psychopath. At 4 a.m. yesterday morning, Anderson began posting strange messages on his own Facebook page.

    "God forgive me of my sins of which I have done plz let your holy name be with me as I go to the heavenly place they will not take me alive my killing starts tonight I kill one by one hopefully I kill more than one though you it seems that I would rather want to kill a lot more you know but oh well one will do I guess but if you get in my way you will be next."

    Not long afterward, he posted a more ominous message: "i finally cracked guys i really did it this time guys."

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    http://www.truecrimereport.com/2011/02/michael_anderson_shoots_axes_a.php
  • GQjock

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    Feb 17, 2011 5:50 AM GMT
    The "Mucinex" defense

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    Feb 17, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    What does that say about how we are viewed when there is an excuse for murdering us.
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    Feb 17, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    Yecchh. Sometimes there's no warnings that you've just made friends with a psychopath. Unless you follow them on Twitter.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:06 AM GMT
    really? noone finds it possible that an older man took advantage of a younger, confused guy? not saying he wasnt gay or that he shouldnt be given the max penalty for murder or whatever but i mean come on..its not 2 young lovers having a quarrel..its an older guy who meets some 'bisexual' junkie at a club and then takes him in...theres something wrong on both sides here...i dont think this guy who was killed is the model for a hate crime or violence against a homosexual or whatever you are trying to spin this into.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:17 AM GMT
    blackstrap saidreally? noone finds it possible that an older man took advantage of a younger, confused guy?...its an older guy who meets some 'bisexual' junkie at a club and then takes him in...spin...


    That's correct. None of us think like you do.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    blackstrap saidreally? noone finds it possible that an older man took advantage of a younger, confused guy?...its an older guy who meets some 'bisexual' junkie at a club and then takes him in...spin...


    That's correct. None of us think like you do.


    yeah its totally the most cliche stereotype that you would fill of the gay guy who feels like he speaks for every other gay guy. good job.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:23 AM GMT
    blackstrap saidyeah its totally the most cliche stereotype that you would fill of the gay guy who feels like he speaks for every other gay guy. good job.


    Yeah, well, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah. Your devil's advocate persona is so very edgy.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:24 AM GMT
    lolwut
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:36 AM GMT
    Dude, I think the issue is bigger than wether the guy was a "gay model citizen." I think the focus was more on that it was a totally heinous crime at a gay man with a gay themed motive.

    But yeah, because that guy was old and creepy it obviously warranted being murdered in one of the most disgusting manners I've ever read about. (sarcasm)
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:41 AM GMT
    blackstrap saidlolwut


    Chicken butt!
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    samasaurusrex saidDude, I think the issue is bigger than wether the guy was a "gay model citizen." I think the focus was more on that it was a totally heinous crime at a gay man with a gay themed motive.

    But yeah, because that guy was old and creepy it obviously warranted being murdered in one of the most disgusting manners I've ever read about. (sarcasm)



    so if an older guy took home a young girl that he met at a club and then that young girl killed him, would that older guy not be vilified? but because this dude now claims he is not gay and killed someone who was gay it becomes an attack on a gay man and not some fucked up psychopath living with some dude who had the brilliant idea to take home some confused kid and let him live with him and that situation ends in SURPRISE! homicide. i just dont really get how the gay issue plays into this.
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    Feb 18, 2011 6:23 AM GMT
    If she did the same thing to the older guy, she wouldn't be vilified.
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    Feb 18, 2011 6:44 AM GMT
    I gotta go with blackstrap on this. This isn't a gay issue.

    It's not hard to figure out that the older guy was looking for some tail and happened to find this somewhat confused, young 19 year old in a bar trying to find himself. That's pretty common these days along with the whole "I'm drunk and didn't know what I was doing" defense. It happens everyday. Clearly nothing sexual happened (according to the 19 year old) and he was allowed to stay over after not putting out. The kicker is that this young 19 year old shot this man 3 times and then brutal mutilated the guy. Him being gay isn't even an issue. The issue is that he snapped and killed someone in cold blood who was asleep.

    A "gay panic" defense is not a defense.

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    Feb 18, 2011 7:19 AM GMT
    Horrible...

    It shows that you cannot trust any pretty face in a bar. Moreover this kid has some serious demons he'll be working out in prison.
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    Feb 18, 2011 7:42 AM GMT
    samasaurusrex saidIf she did the same thing to the older guy, she wouldn't be vilified.



    right. the older man would. so how is this an attack on a gay man when if it was a girl it would be an older man taking advantage of a younger girl and her fighting off his attack? this kid clearly didnt like this guy i mean judging from what he did to him. im not gonna throw probablys out there cuz i dont know but ive seen the situation plenty of time where a young guy needs a place to stay or money or whatever and does some heinous shit then freaks out. the kid is still a piece of shit and a murderer but he didnt wander into some gay bar and start shooting people. im sure this victim isnt the innocent samaritan people will try to make him out to be. totally sick shit, kid should get his arms torn off by wild horses but not a gay themed murder just cuz one or more of the parties were gay.
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    Feb 18, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    OK, either blackstrap didn't read the whole article carefully, or didn't comprehend it.


    Bi man moves in with older gay man; they become roommates. Times goes by.
    Bi man decides he's going to go straight.
    Now hates older man's HOMOSEXUAL advances.
    Kills him declaring on facebook he'll have to settle for killing just one instead of many.

    Nope, nothing about hating a homo in there and killing him instead of just moving out, nosirree.


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    Feb 18, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said OK, either blackstrap didn't read the whole article carefully, or didn't comprehend it.


    Bi man moves in with older gay man; they become roommates. Times goes by.
    Bi man decides he's going to go straight.
    Now hates older man's HOMOSEXUAL advances.
    Kills him declaring on facebook he'll have to settle for killing just one instead of many.

    Nope, nothing about hating a homo in there and killing him instead of just moving out, nosirree.


    Thanks for the summary. The young man's actions were disgusting. Put me in the same hypothetical situation (bi guy realizing that he is straight, gay roommate wants to jump my bones after being lead on) and things wouldn't have turned to murder; just tell him to back off and that I was interested but I no longer am. Maybe a fist fight if it got very aggressive (which the chance is very VERY slim, since I've never attacked a person) but murder- never.
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    Feb 18, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
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    meninlove said OK, either blackstrap didn't read the whole article carefully, or didn't comprehend it.


    Bi man moves in with older gay man; they become roommates. Times goes by.
    Bi man decides he's going to go straight.
    Now hates older man's HOMOSEXUAL advances.
    Kills him declaring on facebook he'll have to settle for killing just one instead of many.

    Nope, nothing about hating a homo in there and killing him instead of just moving out, nosirree.


    Thanks for the summary. The young man's actions were disgusting. Put me in the same hypothetical situation (bi guy realizing that he is straight, gay roommate wants to jump my bones after being lead on) and things wouldn't have turned to murder; just tell him to back off and that I was interested but I no longer am. Maybe a fist fight if it got very aggressive (which the chance is very VERY slim, since I've never attacked a person) but murder- never.



    What's interesting is the time period between when the bi man moved into the gay man's house, and the the time when he decided not to be bi anymore.
    I'll speculate for a moment and suggest the two of them had sex, the first night the older guy took him home and likely again at least once before mr Bi went straight.
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    Feb 18, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    i read the article. i like how from that article you deduce this kids sexuality and history and emotions. it doesnt really matter if hes straight gay or bi...you cant take a blood test to determine sexuality and theres not like there is a forensic test that determines the point in which someone decides they 'arent bi'. and uhh if you were ever 'bi' you cant stop being that. if you used to be into having sex with guys but you decide its not your thing anymore...how are you not bisexual? are you saying that if i decide im never gonna have sex or be in a relationship i stop being gay?
    the old dude seems on par with predatory behaviors. hes taking advantage of a mentally unstable kid who needed a place to live. doesnt make his murder justified in any way shape or form but uhh...how are you gonna try to say that if someone doesnt like or want the sexual advances of another man its an attack on homosexuals specifically? what if i didnt want to fuck someone who was trying to fuck me and i killed them...would that make it a hate crime as opposed to just a regular murder? sexuality isnt as black and white as you are trying to make it. kid was bi..then hes straight..had sex with guys..now hates homosexuals. give me a fucking break.