hitting the wall in the middle of the day

  • Hunter9

    Posts: 1039

    Apr 02, 2008 2:28 AM GMT
    so i have an office job, and usually right around 1 or 2pm, i get so sleepy that i can barely keep my eyes open. this lasts usually for an hour or two. even if i get some fresh air, take a short walk, grab some coffee, or whatever, when i get back to my desk, i get extremely sleepy. does this happen to anybody else? i eat extremely healthy, with my lunch consisting of a colorful salad and a multi-grain pb n' j sandwich. i dont drink during the week and i get to the gym almost every day

    does anybody have any tips on how not to be so sleepy mid-day? i generally get between 6 and 7 hours of sleep, but increasing that is not an option... please make a suggestion that does not include get more sleep.
    thanks
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 2:35 AM GMT
    Hunter9 saidso i have an office job, and usually right around 1 or 2pm, i get so sleepy that i can barely keep my eyes open. this lasts usually for an hour or two. even if i get some fresh air, take a short walk, grab some coffee, or whatever, when i get back to my desk, i get extremely sleepy. does this happen to anybody else? i eat extremely healthy, with my lunch consisting of a colorful salad and a multi-grain pb n' j sandwich. i dont drink during the week and i get to the gym almost every day

    does anybody have any tips on how not to be so sleepy mid-day? i generally get between 6 and 7 hours of sleep, but increasing that is not an option... please make a suggestion that does not include get more sleep.
    thanks


    How about an apple or banana at 1pm with a half cup of cottage cheese? You say you eat healthy at lunch. What about the rest of the day and how many meals do you eat?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 3:24 AM GMT
    What are you eating for breakfast and for your 10:00 meal? Those should be providing energy for your midday.

    Also, maybe you need to add more fast digesting carbs to your lunch. I generally choose chocolate cake, but thats not for everyone. (I'm kidding...do not eat chocolate cake. I'd feel really bad if my advice was responsible for you losing your hot body.)



  • HndsmKansan

    Posts: 16311

    Apr 02, 2008 3:28 AM GMT
    That can happen.. I know personally. Avoid anything that spikes your sugar at lunch (like soda). I think the fruit idea is a very good one. Also make sure your normal sleep patterns are quality ones.
  • UncleverName

    Posts: 741

    Apr 02, 2008 5:12 AM GMT
    I found a couple of years ago that to avoid that afternoon sleepy time, I had to basically avoid any simple (and even some complex) carbohydrates. Rice and pasta still puts me to sleep around 2 if I have it around lunch. I'd be suspicious of the peanut butter and jam sandwich. The bread's probably giving you a bit of an insulin spike, and then the jam (which is pretty much pure sugar) is definitely spiking your insulin. Your blood stream, during non-intense exercises periods, should only have about 5 grams of sugar in it. The jam probably has that alone, and then adding the carbs from the bread probably puts you over the edge.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 5:14 AM GMT
    coffee doesnt help me much


    trail mix, or a bag of nuts does the trick with me..u can also try energy drinks, those really work, but they're not healthy
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 5:43 AM GMT
    UncleverName saidI found a couple of years ago that to avoid that afternoon sleepy time, I had to basically avoid any simple (and even some complex) carbohydrates. Rice and pasta still puts me to sleep around 2 if I have it around lunch. I'd be suspicious of the peanut butter and jam sandwich. The bread's probably giving you a bit of an insulin spike, and then the jam (which is pretty much pure sugar) is definitely spiking your insulin. Your blood stream, during non-intense exercises periods, should only have about 5 grams of sugar in it. The jam probably has that alone, and then adding the carbs from the bread probably puts you over the edge.


    You've hit it dead on with whats happening to him. It would be interesting to know what he eats for breakfast and that snack before lunch to keep things balanced. I should apologize because I missed the jam in his lunch menu. That along with the bread isn't smart. If he has missed breakfast or improperly balanced that meal and no proper snack before lunch this is bound to happen. I'm not a big fan of caffeine. I still say that around 1:30 or 2 which is a problem area for him he needs to include a snack and the small apple/ 1/2 cup cottage cheese combo works real good for me but the trailmix works sorta good as well depending on which kind he gets but portion is key with all of that. It's all good advice. The best thing I ever did was hit the 5 to 6 meals a day plan with proper portions. Along with rest, proper hydration and watching stimulants like caffeine. It's all a good starting point for a great live it ( I prefer not to call it a diet) menu.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 11:32 AM GMT
    I agree that what you eat at 10am really will hold you ever in the energy department. Adding in fruit works for me. Bananas are great for boosting or keeping my energy leveled out. Don't skip breakfast (or any meal.) Make sure to drink a lot of water.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 12:01 PM GMT
    And if you really want the peanut butter and jam sandwich, go for natural peanut butter (yumm!) and jam or preserves that doesn't use any added sugars or high fructose corn syrup. Natural sugars good, processed sugars bad.
  • Hunter9

    Posts: 1039

    Apr 02, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
    i thank everybody for your input
  • Laurence

    Posts: 942

    Apr 02, 2008 2:48 PM GMT
    Besides the advice. I think it's a human characteristic to feel sleepy between 1-3pm. So don't beat yourself up about it, and try some of the great counteractive measures the guys have suggested.

    Drinking plenty of water helps too - it flushes your system out and frequent visits to the loo will stop you falling asleep if nothing else does.

    Loz
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Apr 02, 2008 2:58 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidso i have an office job, and usually right around 1 or 2pm, i get so sleepy that i can barely keep my eyes open. this lasts usually for an hour or two. even if i get some fresh air, take a short walk, grab some coffee, or whatever, when i get back to my desk, i get extremely sleepy. does this happen to anybody else? i eat extremely healthy, with my lunch consisting of a colorful salad and a multi-grain pb n' j sandwich. i dont drink during the week and i get to the gym almost every day

    does anybody have any tips on how not to be so sleepy mid-day? i generally get between 6 and 7 hours of sleep, but increasing that is not an option... please make a suggestion that does not include get more sleep.
    thanks




    I hear CRACK works......KIDDING!

    But sip a REDLINE about an hour after lunch and you'll FLY right through dinner - plus clean the house, do a few loads of laundry, AND rearange the furniture - TWICE ;-)
  • xKorix

    Posts: 607

    Apr 02, 2008 3:17 PM GMT
    Could also be adrenal fatigue. Happens when you experience persistent stress and not resting long enough to recover from the stress.

    I'm pretty sure I had it last term in school, I was more times than not passed out in my afternoon classes. I was taking 4 courses, night classes and going crazy. This term I cut it down to 3 and spent a lot more time relaxing, I may have fallen asleep about 3 times this entire term, big improvement.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 3:25 PM GMT
    Interesting. I feel the same way around that time, well actually a little later. I thought I was just bored. The Adrenal Fatigue sounds very close to what I am going through. I could sleep all day if possible. And am going through copious ammounts of stress. What's the fix for this sort of thing?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 3:26 PM GMT
    I'm not sure if this is an option for you, but I use my lunch break to exercise. I hit the weights hard at midday, and that seems to keep me alert through the rest of the afternoon. Then I go back for a cardio workout immediately after work, and that keeps me up for the evening. All this on top of the excellent dietary advice above, of course.

    If it sounds like a viable option, give it a try. More and more employers are recognizing the validity of exercise during the workday. On days I can't make it to the gym, not only do I start slipping into a coma at the office by about midday, but I spend all afternoon being really hungry, for some peculiar reason.
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Apr 02, 2008 3:36 PM GMT
    Seriously, you might be having what is known as a "Carb Coma", so if you're eating a large carb-heavy lunch, your blood sugar level will hit the skids a few hours later.

    Another healthy alternative that will give you a boost is a 3oz dose of fresh squeezed Wheat Grass juice from Jamba Juice or Whole Foods or wherever you can get it. It's a natural pick-me-up and good for ya too.
  • MisterT

    Posts: 1272

    Apr 02, 2008 3:44 PM GMT
    Your nutrition plays a large part( get more complex carbs, avoid the simple sugars), sleep also plays a part. Something else that can help, try to get about 20-30 min of exercise in the morning before work, it helps get the body cranking in the morning, and can keep your metabolism elevated all day as long you eat right. I started doing that, definitely helps me.
  • UncleverName

    Posts: 741

    Apr 02, 2008 4:03 PM GMT
    I'm going to reword what I posted above a bit.

    It's most likely all about your insulin levels, and whether or not they are spiked. When you eat processed sugar, it spikes your insulin. If you're not doing anything to use that spiked insulin, you will have a crash afterwards (thus the afternoon drowsiness). And the jam is processed sugar, even if it's got no preservatives and no high fructose corn syrup; it's processed because it's fruit in almost liquid form, which takes very little time to be absorbed into the blood stream.

    A pre-noon workout would help greatly, probably without requiring the eating habits to change, but that's because post workout, your body wants an insulin spike. This is great advice, and would definitely help.

    Switching to 5 or 6 meals a day would greatly help too, but most likely because it would average and regulate your sugar intake, making the insulin spike much less at any point in the day.

    Keep in mind that I'm not a doctor by any means. But if it's always the same time at work, and you suspect it's diet related, it probably is from the insulin spikes. And the great thing is, you can test it out very easily: cut out the jam and/or bread from your sandwich for a few days, and see if it works. You could also try the work out, but depending on your job/schedule, that could be a lot tougher.

    Either way, please let us know when you figure it out.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 7:58 PM GMT
    Crashing as we speak...

    Need to bust through this wall

    12_at_the_wall_cid_752344884dca11dbbef99
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 8:11 PM GMT
    I suffered from the same thing, which is in many cases a Circadian Rhythm Disorder or CRD. I lived in Seattle (being a native Californian) for 4 years and found that the long dark days were fucking with my energy levels like crazy. If you find that these issues happen more in the fall/winter than in the spring/summer, I'm no doctor but I'd be willing to bet that you have a CRD since your symptoms sound pretty classic for it.

    I actually bought a light therapy device (called a GoLite - you can get them at Costco or on amazon.com) which is basically a blue light that you sit in front of for 15 minutes or so in the morning and it basically replaces what would normally be done by the sun - tells your body to wake up. I immediately noticed that my energy spikes and dips went away and that I was able to go to bed at a normal hour, sleep through the night, and have a much more constant energy level.

    Eating right and all is important too, but check them out. Either go to apollohealth.com or go to Amazon and search for GoLite.

    MT
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2008 10:06 PM GMT
    Or move to Austin like I did. 300 days of sunshine a year.