USA proposes fees for visitors from Canada

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    Feb 17, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
    $5.50 fee for every visitor who travels to the USA by air or sea. Is this really necessary? What if Canada charges the US $5.60 for every American entering this country....

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011/02/16/obama-budget-canada-fee.html
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    Feb 17, 2011 3:52 AM GMT
    Seems rather odd since Obama and Harper just last week signed a joint US/Canada perimiter security deal. I'm also surprised that that in itself didn't conjure up any discussion here because it is quite a big deal in itself. There are aspects of it that should be disturbing to both Canadian and Americans.. sharing data on each others citizens, but there are other parts I agree with like shared border services,, harmonized entry rules etc.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    charlitos said$5.50 fee for every visitor who travels to the USA by air or sea. Is this really necessary? What if Canada charges the US $5.60 for every American entering this country....

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011/02/16/obama-budget-canada-fee.html


    Why not, indeed.

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    Feb 17, 2011 7:20 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    charlitos said$5.50 fee for every visitor who travels to the USA by air or sea. Is this really necessary? What if Canada charges the US $5.60 for every American entering this country....

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011/02/16/obama-budget-canada-fee.html


    Why not, indeed.


    Demand that the entry fee be paid in Canadian currency just for fun.
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    Feb 17, 2011 7:45 AM GMT
    Hmmm must be jealousy over the Canadian US exchange rate... they need to find a way to get that couple cents back out of us ^^
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:03 AM GMT
    But it's $25 for a "happy ending."
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:20 AM GMT
    If this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:35 AM GMT
    I believe it's officially called the Canadian Niceness Surcharge.

    It's just trying to recover the psychic costs of all that reasonableness flowing unchecked over the border.
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    Feb 17, 2011 11:24 AM GMT
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.

    Honestly, I have traveled through the US many times. I buy my food, my gas, and my national parks pass in the US every time I travel. I often purchase a vehicle as well, entertainment and usually turn it into a two or three week road trip. A $5 fee will not stop my travelling... Hell, they could slap me with a $100 fee and if I were so inclined I would still travel. I would actually rather it were a $100 tax than $5.50. Forcing me to doll out pocket change to enter the US really cheapens America. In a time when the economy is hurting and tourism should be encouraged the government is actually saying that they would be so small as to slap a punitive tax on individuals who are likely going to spend a few thousand each and help the economy recover a little and keep jobs in the US.

    It is, naturally, their prerogative; it does seem a little silly. Why not hit me with a 50 cent pollution tax, a $2 national security tax, a $3 administration tax, a $4 landfill tax, a 70 cent highway upgrade tax and so on... Make it cover 12 printed pages and have it add up to $300. Make it worth my time rather than making it feel like a punitive measure to dissuade Canadians from visiting.

    Our countries love our trade wars... this seems like an anti-trade war. I know that it is just making us pay the same as other nationalities to enter the US... It just comes at a time where the optics make it look silly.
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    Feb 17, 2011 11:41 AM GMT
    It should be reciprocal...but Canada would have to charge more because of the exchange rate with the Canadian Peso.
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    Feb 17, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    sdgman saidIt should be reciprocal...but Canada would have to charge more because of the exchange rate with the Canadian Peso.



    have you been following the exchange rate of that "peso"? The US dollar is the weak little sister.

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    Feb 17, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    we should demand payment in Cdn dollars or Euros.

    Or Yuan.



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    Feb 17, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    This stinks, hope it doesn't pass. Eventually they will see all the revenue that is missed with prvt vehicles passing to and fro in-between the two countries and eventually set up tolls on border crossings. This is what i'm thinking will come at least.
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    Feb 17, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    Most of the busiest car crossings are toll bridges or tunnels.. Niagara Falls, Detroit/windsor, Sarnia/Port Huron so there are already $4-$5 tolls each way which I assume are used towards maintenance. If the US decides to tack on an additional $5 entry fee I can guarantee that daily shopping trips will decline substantially... we're talking 1000's and 1000's per day. The people that WILL be hurt by this isn't the Canadians.. it is the American retailers and restaurants. All the US border cities and those close by.... Detroit, Buffalo, Pt Huron and Bellingham Wash rely on Canadian cross border shoppers.
    So yeah.. the US govt could stand to rake in money if they ever started charging by vehicle but at the cost of store closings and lost jobs in the US counties.

    There is no way that the US states that line the Cdn border would agree to it with Washington.. no way. .

    It's sort of like the Mexico/US in reverse... where in that scenario it's the rich Americano's spending their dollars in impovershed Mexico while up north it's the rich Canadians spending their money in the impovershed USA. seriously.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    spichael saidwe should demand payment in Cdn dollars or Euros.

    Or Yuan.

    Lets demand Yuan! Then turn around, donate it back to the US, held in trust to China to help pay the interest on their bonds.icon_lol.gif


    Ricovelas saidThis stinks, hope it doesn't pass. Eventually they will see all the revenue that is missed with prvt vehicles passing to and fro in-between the two countries and eventually set up tolls on border crossings. This is what i'm thinking will come at least.

    It is just arriving by air or sea. So private vehicles entering would be exempt.
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.


    I've never been to the US
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.


    I've never been to the US


    We should do a summer road trip..icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 17, 2011 6:44 PM GMT
    Delivis said
    charlitos said
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.


    I've never been to the US


    We should do a summer road trip..icon_smile.gif


    we should. Where the f*** have u been lol.
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    Delivis said
    charlitos said
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.


    I've never been to the US


    We should do a summer road trip..icon_smile.gif


    we should. Where the f*** have u been lol.


    Having waaaay too much of a social life lately.
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    Delivis, better bring the coupon book, our govt's getting desperate to dig itself out of its hole.
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:26 PM GMT
    why is this a big deal? people have to pay more than that to get into some major cities.
  • jimjock

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    Feb 17, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    Purchasing Power Parity anyone?
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:54 PM GMT
    will this lead canadians into border hoping like down south of the border??...i think not...
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    Feb 17, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
    jperfit saidIf this is true then Good,if it's such a big problem then don't enter the u.s.


    If you like it, then good...no need to be a big asshole about it!

    Actually, I think US businesses will have a real problem with this. After all, while the dollar amount isn't great, it's a fact that far more Canadians VISIT and SHOP in the US than we see Americans coming here for that same purpose.

    It won't deter all of them...but it will deter some of them.

    Likewise, for a vacationer who has a choice between Florida or Cuba/Mexico/Bahamas/Dominican Rep/Jamaica, etc...it may well tilt their trips in favour of those other destinations! And Canadians who were considering buying property in the US because they thought about living part time in the US may well interpret this as an act that is a bit more hostile...and may rethink making so significant an investment in the US: after all, if this is what you do to us now, whose to say what else you're going to do to solve your budget woes without facing them yourselves?

    I doubt Canada would retaliate because Canadians businesses would love this: it would likely encourage some to shop at home instead of cross-border shopping! Indeed, the Canadian retail and hospitality industry is likely rooting for these changes!
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    Feb 17, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    This will have little effect on Canadians shopping in the U.S. For both U.S. and Canadian citizens, the majority of shopping in the other country is done by driving across the border and the $5.50 charge is only for those that enter the U.S. by sea or air. And for those traveling to the U.S. by air, most will probably not even notice the charge among the fees and taxes already included on an airline ticket.