Hawaii State Legislature Approves Same-Sex Civil Unions

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    Feb 17, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    Okay okay, it's not marriage but still a move in the right direction. Given that Hawaii was the first state in which voters approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman, this seems pretty significant. I'm surprised no one has started a topic on this already.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/16/hawaii-samesex-civil-unio_n_824291.html
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    Feb 17, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    This is great news. Hey civil unions are better than absolutely nothing and they are the best route to follow in achieving full equality for gay Americans. This will give the people of Hawaii a good opportunity to see that gays being together are not a threat to any traditional institution or to the stability of society. It will also help the people of Hawaii get adjusted to the concept of same sex couples. In this way when the time comes to expand the civil unions statute into full fledged gay marriage, the people most likely will not have a problem with gay marriage and right wing opposition could be easily crushed in trying to stop gay marriage from becoming the law of the land in Hawaii.
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    Feb 18, 2011 1:28 AM GMT
    It's about time.
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    Feb 18, 2011 1:36 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThis is great news. Hey civil unions are better than absolutely nothing and they are the best route to follow in achieving full equality for gay Americans. This will give the people of Hawaii a good opportunity to see that gays being together are not a threat to any traditional institution or to the stability of society. It will also help the people of Hawaii get adjusted to the concept of same sex couples. In this way when the time comes to expand the civil unions statute into full fledged gay marriage, the people most likely will not have a problem with gay marriage and right wing opposition could be easily crushed in trying to stop gay marriage from becoming the law of the land in Hawaii.

    Actually, civil unions might get in the way of marriage, because people will say "you got civil unions, you dont need anything else."
  • joarky123

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    Feb 18, 2011 1:54 AM GMT
    being from hawaii, i can say its about time. considered the 'aloha' state it always amazed me why it took so long for us to recognize this and take a step in the right direction.

    on a side note that i found rather interesting (somewhat related):

    http://www.fastcodesign.com/1663227/infographic-of-the-day-marriage-is-still-a-dying-institution

    The main point of the article above? That Marraige is a dying institution because people Fail to see its importance. This pretty much silences all those arguments from the far right conservatives who claim that allowing gays the right to marry erodes the institution of marraige. How can it when its already eroding away itself?!
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    Feb 18, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    joarky123 saidbeing from hawaii, i can say its about time. considered the 'aloha' state it always amazed me why it took so long for us to recognize this and take a step in the right direction.

    on a side note that i found rather interesting (somewhat related):

    http://www.fastcodesign.com/1663227/infographic-of-the-day-marriage-is-still-a-dying-institution

    The main point of the article above? That Marraige is a dying institution because people Fail to see its importance. This pretty much silences all those arguments from the far right conservatives who claim that allowing gays the right to marry erodes the institution of marraige. How can it when its already eroding away itself?!


    It won't silence them. They'll twist words and manipulate facts just as political oppositions always do well knowing that their many retarded followers will treat it as gospel.
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    Feb 18, 2011 5:17 AM GMT
    Does this mean anything?
    There can abruptly be an appeal and a resulting referendum to remove this new human right, right?

    -Doug
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    Feb 18, 2011 5:02 PM GMT
    A step in the right direction!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 19, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    jpcrabbymiserable, if anyone on here is an idiot, it is you with your endless extremist liberal propaganda and nonsensical paranoia. Go get a life you belligerant, droopy faced old fart.icon_mad.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 19, 2011 3:53 PM GMT
    Well excuse me for one minor misspelling. You are one bumbling, brain dead moron. Go away.
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 19, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidjpcrabbymiserable, if anyone on here is an idiot, it is you with your endless extremist liberal propaganda and nonsensical paranoia. Go get a life you belligerant, droopy faced old fart.icon_mad.gif


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    Feb 19, 2011 5:37 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    roadbikeRob saidjpcrabbymiserable, if anyone on here is an idiot, it is you with your endless extremist liberal propaganda and nonsensical paranoia. Go get a life you belligerant, droopy faced old fart.icon_mad.gif

    You misspelled 'belligerent".
    Idiot.


    I would say there is a small group that just loves to name call and get personal here.

    Definitely says something about them.icon_rolleyes.gif


    You know when you have them when they take out the red pen.icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 19, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    roadbikeRob saidThis is great news. Hey civil unions are better than absolutely nothing and they are the best route to follow in achieving full equality for gay Americans. This will give the people of Hawaii a good opportunity to see that gays being together are not a threat to any traditional institution or to the stability of society. It will also help the people of Hawaii get adjusted to the concept of same sex couples. In this way when the time comes to expand the civil unions statute into full fledged gay marriage, the people most likely will not have a problem with gay marriage and right wing opposition could be easily crushed in trying to stop gay marriage from becoming the law of the land in Hawaii.

    Oh yes, because agreeing to second-class status was so satisfying to African-Americans.

    Idiot.


    I'm with you on this one! Separate/different is NOT equal. When will 'equal justice under the law' mean exactly that?

    I am pragmatic enough to understand the concept of 'successive approximations to the goal' but we should not rest until 'equal' means 'equal!'
  • creature

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    Feb 21, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    Glad to see that Democratic Gov. Abercrombie signed the bill into law, as opposed to Republican Gov. Lingle who vetoed a similar bill last year.