Wisconsin Legislative Assembly forced to recess due to threats

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    Feb 19, 2011 6:11 AM GMT
    Union thugs illustrate the point of why public sector unions should not exist:
    http://budget.wispolitics.com/2011/02/jeff-fitzgerald-assembly-adjourned.html

    Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald said he decided to adjourn the Assembly this evening because Gov. Scott Walker called minutes before lawmakers took the floor to tell him to get his caucus members and staff out of the building because their safety could no longer be assured.

    Fitzgerald told WisPolitics exclusively about the guv's call after the Assembly ended a tense, 30-minute floor session. As the Republicans made moves to pass the controversial budget repair bill without Dem participation, a throng of thousands of protesters outside the chamber grew louder and louder.

    The GOP Assembly leadership -- Speaker Fitzgerald, Majority Leader Scott Suder and JFC Co-chair Robin Vos -- have issued a statement reaffirming their commitment to pass the bill next week.

    "The leadership of the Assembly has decided to recess due to security concerns. We will reconvene on Tuesday morning and are confident that the security concerns will no longer exist. We are committed as ever to pass Governor Walker’s Budget Repair Bill and will do so next week," the statement reads. "Millions of taxpayers spoke in November and we will not let them down. We have a fiscal crisis that can’t be ignored. We have the votes to pass the bill; it is only a matter of time."


    I note that the polling that's been done suggests that the people in Wisconsin continue to be behind the Governor on this one. It's simply a loud vocal and apparently violent minority who continue to view their luxurious benefits as entitlements.

    Meanwhile the Wisconsin Education Association Council publishes the home numbers and addresses of State Legislators. Another thuggish move:

    http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/02/18/weac-publishes-home-addresses-of-wisconsin-legislators/

    I hope their union leadership is prepared to get the same treatment.
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    Feb 19, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    First, a Gallup poll taken on the same issue should a majority supporting the public sector workers once the questions posed in a neutral manner.

    Second, President Obama gets more death threats than any elected official in history, so I'm not feeling particularly sympathetic. While I'm not pro-death threats or violence, if the unions want to take their protests to a public space near a legislator's home I don't see a problem with it. Or do you know believe in the First Amendment?

    Third, union members are not "thugs." They are hard working Americans who are trying to protect themselves from the predations of a crazed, right-wing Governor who is bent on passing an unconstitutional attack on their rights to collectively bargain via a manufactured crisis wherein the alleged deficit is slightly less than the $140 million that said governor gave to his cronies.

    Finally, why hasn't SouthBeach posted his usual "how dare the Canadian discuss American politics" rant on any of your threads?
  • mke_bt

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    Feb 19, 2011 6:47 AM GMT

    What a misleading headline. You should be ashamed.
    Nowhere in the quote you cited is there a mention of threats being made against the members of the assembly.
  • creature

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    Feb 19, 2011 12:57 PM GMT
    Interesting to note that:

    Riddler has never criticized the publishing of any contact information that was done by the movement of the Tea Party, especially referring to it as "thuggish"

    Very typical of Riddler. Ignore the extremities of the party you support, while condemning others who engage in similar activities.
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    Feb 19, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    creature saidInteresting to note that:

    Riddler has never criticized the publishing of any contact information that was done by the movement of the Tea Party, especially referring to it as "thuggish"

    Very typical of Riddler. Ignore the extremities of the party you support, while condemning others who engage in similar activities.

    And aren't these indeed less threatening activities, compared to what Teabaggers have done? Like bringing firearms to public governmental meetings? And yelling racial epithets at Black legislators?

    Nothing these supporters of the legal right to collective bargaining have done comes anywhere near to threats like Teabaggers have done. Well, a legal right until this Radical Republican Governor has his way.
  • rnch

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    Feb 19, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    riddler, has southbeach hacked into your account?

    this thread is idential to some of the crapppppppppp he posts here.

    it's THAT bad.

    "union thugs"???

    c'mon, dude...you're better than that.

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    Feb 19, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    Public employees really don't need labor unions because the only reason these unions exist is to extract more hard earned money from the taxpayers. I give the governor of Wisconsin a lot of credit for taking a strong, positive stand against these crooked, money grabbing public employee unions.
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    Feb 19, 2011 3:53 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said....I give the governor of Wisconsin a lot of credit for taking a strong, positive stand against these crooked, money grabbing public employee unions.




    yes. YOU would... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 19, 2011 5:05 PM GMT
    My replies are in indigo

    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidFirst, a Gallup poll taken on the same issue should a majority supporting the public sector workers once the questions posed in a neutral manner.


    When a recent poll shows 64% of Americans believe public sector workers should not be unionized?

    You're dreaming!

    No. It depends on how the question is asked.


    Christian73 saidSecond, President Obama gets more death threats than any elected official in history, so I'm not feeling particularly sympathetic. While I'm not pro-death threats or violence, if the unions want to take their protests to a public space near a legislator's home I don't see a problem with it. Or do you know believe in the First Amendment?


    Citation (and not the AOL-Huffington Post, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc.)

    [quote][cite]Boston Globe[/cite]Obama, who was given Secret Service protection 18 months before the election - the earliest ever for a presidential candidate - has been the target of more threats since his inauguration than his predecessors.


    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/10/18/secret_service_under_strain_as_leaders_face_more_threats/?page=1




    Christian73 saidThird, union members are not "thugs."


    Except on occasions (like the Madison WI protests) when they act like thugs.






    Christian73 saidThey are hard working Americans who are trying to protect themselves from the predations of a crazed, right-wing Governor who is bent on passing an unconstitutional attack on their rights to collectively bargain via a manufactured crisis wherein the alleged deficit is slightly less than the $140 million that said governor gave to his cronies.


    Ummm... if it is so unconstitutional for public sector unions to not collectively bargain how come federal workers are forbidden to collectively bargain for wages or benefits?


    That will come as news to the numerous federal employee unions that current exist, including The National Federation of Federal Employees and The American Federation of Government Employees


    Christian73 saidFinally, why hasn't SouthBeach posted his usual "how dare the Canadian discuss American politics" rant on any of your threads?


    SB posts whatever SB wants to post, whenever SB wants to post it. icon_wink.gif

    Translation: You're a hypocrite.
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    Feb 19, 2011 7:10 PM GMT
    mke_bt said
    What a misleading headline. You should be ashamed.
    Nowhere in the quote you cited is there a mention of threats being made against the members of the assembly.
    LMAO.. as soon as you see the OP's account name, you should always be aware of misinformation..
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    Feb 19, 2011 7:24 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidMy replies are in indigo




    What fucking choice is indigo? Couldn't you have chosen a more bolder color than indigo? What kind of Liberal homosexual are you? Not very fucking bold-- You are BORING---

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    Feb 19, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidMy replies are in indigo




    What fucking choice is indigo? Couldn't you have chosen a more bolder color than indigo? What kind of Liberal homosexual are you? Not very fucking bold-- You are BORING---



    wow. Is this the point in the fight scene where you've run out of bullets so you throw the gun at me?

    The last thing I am is "boring".

    And someone who's only picture is a headless black and white torso from 1978, shouldn't be throwing stones about who is "bold." icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 19, 2011 8:12 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    deanaane said
    Christian73 saidMy replies are in indigo




    What fucking choice is indigo? Couldn't you have chosen a more bolder color than indigo? What kind of Liberal homosexual are you? Not very fucking bold-- You are BORING---



    wow. Is this the point in the fight scene where you've run out of bullets so you throw the gun at me?

    The last thing I am is "boring".

    And someone who's only picture is a headless black and white torso from 1978, shouldn't be throwing stones about who is "bold." icon_lol.gif
    Christain, just read the message under his 'picture'..

    "Ignore His Posts"
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    Feb 19, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    lol, a lot of this rhetoric is laboring under the delusion that all the union members are liberals. Guess what? Some are conservatives, lol.


    PS I think this deanaane guy could be daguerro returned.
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    Feb 19, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
    Christian73 said

    wow. Is this the point in the fight scene where you've run out of bullets so you throw the gun at me?

    Just another clown trying to be funny?


    The last thing I am is "boring".

    you are
    you are


    And someone who's only picture is a headless black and white torso from 1978, shouldn't be throwing stones about who is "bold."

    You would laugh if you saw my photos from 1978---I do. And there you go again with the headless torso attack-------And do you think your headed torsos on a realjock health and fitness site are flattering? So before you attack me on MY headless torso---tale care of your headed torso. Stick to your Liberal Hen agenda so I've got something to laugh about cause you sure ain't motivating me in the gym. Isn't it about time you brag about the size of your dick Christin? You've tried twice previously to entice me w/ your huge dick but since this isn't RealDick, you've been barking up the wrong tree.
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    Feb 19, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
    deanaane saidthere you go again with the headless torso attack-------And do you think your headed torsos on a realjock health and fitness site are flattering? So before you attack me on MY headless torso---tale care of your headed torso. Stick to your Liberal Hen agenda so I've got something to laugh about cause you sure ain't motivating me in the gym. Isn't it about time you brag about the size of your dick Christin? You've tried twice previously to entice me w/ your huge dick but since this isn't RealDick, you've been barking up the wrong tree.


    Of course, my "headed torso" pictures are flattering. I'm adorable!

    I didn't realize it was my responsibility to motivate me to go to the gym. Would you like a phone call, a text? Are you going to ring me when it's time for sparring class three times a week?

    I don't usually brag about the size of my dick, thought it's quite above average. If you recall, that was a joke when you and someone else were squabbling. I guess like most right-wingers you also lack a funny bone, sense of humor, irony, sarcasm, etc.

    Finally,. the idea of my enticing you with my "huge dick" makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little. In any event, I've been off the market for nine years thanks to my smart, funny, and hot boyfriend, so you'll have to find another "huge dick" to entice you.
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    Feb 19, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFinally, why hasn't SouthBeach posted his usual "how dare the Canadian discuss American politics" rant on any of your threads?

    That's okay, Christian, I'll do it.
    Riddler, let me be blunt: You don't know shit about American culture or politics, and all your silly rants do is reveal the vast canyon of your ignorance. Also, lecturing people in another country about how their country ought to be run is obnoxious.

    Why don't you go piss off the Azerbaijanis or something? I'm sure they'd love to benefit from your "advice" and "historical knowledge".

    I find Riddler's comments to be timely and welcome. He is much more in sync with mainstream USA than are many RJ members, both in the US and Canada.
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    Feb 19, 2011 10:05 PM GMT
    Christian73 said

    Of course, my "headed torso" pictures are flattering. I'm adorable!

    my answers are indigo so y'all can see them that much bettter---

    I didn't realize it was my responsibility to motivate me to go to the gym. Would you like a phone call, a text? Are you going to ring me when it's time for sparring class three times a week?

    How you motivate yourself to get to sparring class three times a week does not concern me cause I can see that these classes are not helping you at all!

    I don't usually brag about the size of my dick, thought it's quite above average. If you recall, that was a joke when you and someone else were squabbling. I guess like most right-wingers you also lack a funny bone, sense of humor, irony, sarcasm, etc.

    YOU DO BRAG and you've done so in 2 previous threads--You also had the balls to brag that I had a hardon for you! So is everything you say to be taken with sense of humour? Cause I actually do!
    Finally,. the idea of my enticing you with my "huge dick" makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little. In any event, I've been off the market for nine years thanks to my smart, funny, and hot boyfriend, so you'll have to find another "huge dick" to entice you.


    If you've been 'off the market', why are you here on RJ? ---You've stated that you don't need any motivation to go to your sparring classes --
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    Feb 19, 2011 10:24 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said

    Of course, my "headed torso" pictures are flattering. I'm adorable!

    my answers are indigo so y'all can see them that much bettter---

    I didn't realize it was my responsibility to motivate me to go to the gym. Would you like a phone call, a text? Are you going to ring me when it's time for sparring class three times a week?

    How you motivate yourself to get to sparring class three times a week does not concern me cause I can see that these classes are not helping you at all!

    I don't usually brag about the size of my dick, thought it's quite above average. If you recall, that was a joke when you and someone else were squabbling. I guess like most right-wingers you also lack a funny bone, sense of humor, irony, sarcasm, etc.

    YOU DO BRAG and you've done so in 2 previous threads--You also had the balls to brag that I had a hardon for you! So is everything you say to be taken with sense of humour? Cause I actually do!
    Finally,. the idea of my enticing you with my "huge dick" makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little. In any event, I've been off the market for nine years thanks to my smart, funny, and hot boyfriend, so you'll have to find another "huge dick" to entice you.


    If you've been 'off the market', why are you here on RJ? ---You've stated that you don't need any motivation to go to your sparring classes --


    This is my last response to this because you've proven that in addition to a complete lack of a sense of humor, you're also one of those men who thinks everyone is attracted to him or something.

    Have a "hardon" for someone is a metaphor for obsession or other focused attention. In my case, you nearly exclusively respond to my posts, and, considering that I didn't even recall our little tete-a-tete where I joked that my dick was bigger than yours and whoever you were arguing with.

    In terms of sparring classes, if you ever find yourself in New York, I'd be happy to show you in person exactly how they've helped me. I'd even give you the first shot because being a working class Brooklyn boy, it probably wouldn't be a fair fight. icon_lol.gif

    And I'm on RJ for the same reasons others are: chatting with guys with similar interests. You seem to have made a wrong turn at Adam4Adam (where you no doubt met SouthBeach) or Manhunt. icon_rolleyes.gif