iPHONE 4 vs ANDROID for those who have owned BOTH

  • xtratall

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    Feb 19, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
    was wondering if any guys out there have own both an iphone 4 and an android phone. about to upgrade my (shitty old) android and am torn. i like android and don't care for itunes or the cult of all things apple. but the iphone 4 is undeniably a nice piece of hardware. my first choice is to wait for the thunderbolt - i like the size, htc sense, 4g and the aluminum build - but it could be missing some key features, like netflix and potentially even skype. any words of wisdom from those who have lived on both sides of the phone tech tracks?
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    Feb 19, 2011 9:21 PM GMT
    I think you answered your own question.
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    Feb 19, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI think you answered your own question.


    riiight. except that i didn't. but thanks for the input!
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    Feb 19, 2011 11:45 PM GMT
    I want to like Android, I really, really do. (Linux, Java, open source, blah blah blah).

    But I don't. It's both a hardware thing (event he high-end Android devices feel sorta plasticky compared to the iPhone), and a software thing. I'm pretty picky about interface stuff, and the experience on the iPhone (at least to my eyes) is simply much more fluid and seamless.

    The Nexus is pretty nice hardware-wise, the Samsung ones I've looked at don't feel nearly as solid, and I haven't looked at the Moto phones; here's a rundown of some other comparison points:

    http://stevenf.com/wiki/android%20vs.%20iphone.html
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    Feb 20, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
    SwimSF saidI want to like Android, I really, really do. (Linux, Java, open source, blah blah blah).

    But I don't. It's both a hardware thing (event he high-end Android devices feel sorta plasticky compared to the iPhone), and a software thing. I'm pretty picky about interface stuff, and the experience on the iPhone (at least to my eyes) is simply much more fluid and seamless.

    The Nexus is pretty nice hardware-wise, the Samsung ones I've looked at don't feel nearly as solid, and I haven't looked at the Moto phones; here's a rundown of some other comparison points:

    http://stevenf.com/wiki/android%20vs.%20iphone.html


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    Feb 20, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    I've had an iPod Touch for a couple years and an HTC Desire for a few months, and for the things I do (stock market and weather apps, google searches), I honestly don't see iOS as having any advantage over Android. However, my needs are likely less intensive than other users.
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    Feb 20, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    Skype is available on Android, and Netflix is coming to "select" Android devices. Android is an open source, so there is a DRM issue with Netflix. The Netflix app for Android is being designed on a case by case scenario for devices.
  • UVaRob9

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    Feb 20, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    I replaced my iPhone 3G last July after the update to iOS4 made it unusable and got a Samsung Captivate. I like it over iOS in terms of what I can do with it out of the box and the AMOLED screen is beautiful, but one thing has been a serious point of annoyance: the manufacturer and carrier decide when or if your device gets an OS update. HTC and Motorola are pretty good about it, but I didn't realize until later that Samsung has an atrocious track record for updating their smartphones. To counter that, I've been flashing different Froyo ROMs to my phone to get the new features like tethering. Oh, also the Facebook app for Android is less functional than on iOS, but that's the fault of the Facebook App Dev team focusing more on iPhone.
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    Feb 20, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
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    I currently own Droid X and love it, The Iphone 4 lks amazing but w/ the antenna placed around the phone your more likely to have dropped calls. This can be avoided by encasing the phone. However there is already talk about Iphone 5. Not to mention the Kick stand on the Thunder bolt is enough for me! It makes it easier to watch video etc.....
  • xtratall

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    Feb 20, 2011 5:37 PM GMT
    appreciate the responses.

    although i am fairly certain that skype video calling will eventually appear on the thunderbolt (even if it doesn't ship with it) i am less confident about netflix. not the end-all-be-all but still a bummer.

    still waffling. the 'bolt is supposed to get released this week so i'll be able to play with them side by side.

    another worry is that all-glass back on the iphone. i would get a case for it (as i would for the thunderbolt) but i do have fears of the iphone cracking. the all-aluminum unibody on the thunderbolt appeals to me on the durability front. guess i'll know more this week.
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    Feb 20, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    Skype is a free app you download from the Market. If you watch the video Hillie posted you will see the Thunderbolt in the clip has Skype installed on it.
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    Feb 20, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    the phone landscape will be very different later in the summer when more LTE signals are available, the iphone5 is available and android will be in another iteration. keep your current phone or get a cheap flip phone for the next four months and then make a decision.
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    Feb 20, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    Ganymede80 saidSkype is a free app you download from the Market. If you watch the video Hillie posted you will see the Thunderbolt in the clip has Skype installed on it.


    actually, skype WITHOUT video is a free app. and the video is from a pre-production model that just played a preloaded video showing what skype WILL look like. current word is that it will launch without skype but be upgraded to it at a later date. just fyi...

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    Feb 20, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    rightasrain saidthe phone landscape will be very different later in the summer when more LTE signals are available, the iphone5 is available and android will be in another iteration. keep your current phone or get a cheap flip phone for the next four months and then make a decision.


    unfortunately this logic, while sound, can be applied at any time. there is always something bigger and better in the pipeline. if i wait for the iphone 5 or new dual-core androids then it's just going to be a matter of months, be it 6 or 12, until the next iphone or the new quad core phones are out.

    as far as i'm concerned, both current phones are future proofed enough in their own ways. the iphone already has the apps i want along with the guarantee of being updated with the new iOS. the thunderbolt will be upgradeable (almost indefinitely after root) and will be 4g enabled. once again, it's a toss-up for me.
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    Feb 20, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    I owned a Motorolla Milestone and traded it for an Iphone 4 after 6 or 7 months. You can't beat the ease of use of the Iphone. I also found the android app market to be lacking.

  • Feb 20, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    I love my HTC and can't imagine going to apple--first I don't get the mob mentality behind iphone's popularity, which to me is undercooked android. I own HTC Desire and would definitely look at the thunderbolt if I could (I live outside US market) -- but simply, I like android's architecture and logic--I don't Apple's. Every time I look at an apple device, it takes about 30 seconds to get past the smoke and mirrors to realize essentially it does nothing more than I already have (or can find in market) and does not to more than what my HTC already does, or will, with android.

    Just don't understand the apple appeal.
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    Feb 20, 2011 7:08 PM GMT
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    Ganymede80 saidSkype is a free app you download from the Market. If you watch the video Hillie posted you will see the Thunderbolt in the clip has Skype installed on it.


    actually, skype WITHOUT video is a free app. and the video is from a pre-production model that just played a preloaded video showing what skype WILL look like. current word is that it will launch without skype but be upgraded to it at a later date. just fyi...



    Skype with video calling is going to be available mid 2011 for Verizon 4G Android phones (with front facing cameras), so the Thunderbolt will be getting Skype with video. Currently Skype with video calling isn't available on any Android phone. Just FYI.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/skype-and-verizon-announce-video-calling-many-their-4g-android-devices
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    Feb 20, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
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    Ganymede80 saidSkype is a free app you download from the Market. If you watch the video Hillie posted you will see the Thunderbolt in the clip has Skype installed on it.


    actually, skype WITHOUT video is a free app. and the video is from a pre-production model that just played a preloaded video showing what skype WILL look like. current word is that it will launch without skype but be upgraded to it at a later date. just fyi...



    Skype with video calling is going to be available mid 2011 for Verizon 4G Android phones (with front facing cameras), so the Thunderbolt will be getting Skype with video. Currently Skype with video calling isn't available on any Android phone. Just FYI.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/skype-and-verizon-announce-video-calling-many-their-4g-android-devices


    so you're basically repeating what i just said - skype WILL become available on the thunderbolt (verizon's first 4g ffc enabled phone) at a later date. but thanks for the link and the fyi.
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    Feb 20, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    Android is much more customizable and powerful overall if your comfortable getting it setup the way you like. The notification methods on Android (e.g. the bar you pull down to see ongoing/finished items) is MUCH nicer than the damn popups on iPhone. Owned both here (actually write for Apple) but am an Android user. Like the ability to access storage from your Mac/PC.

    Some grew new Android devices coming out and the plain Android interface is great (only Nexus has this so far) as all manufacturers put a skin on top. Android 2.3 Gingerbread phones are just starting to come out this year and its worth waiting for - finally more seemless and solid. I preordered the Samsung Galaxy S2, which I'd say is finally the first pice of hardware to beat the iPhone with a beautiful large screen, 1mm thinner than iPhone, and Touchwiz 4.0 that Samsung throws on is actually pretty good.

    Good luck ;-)
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    Feb 20, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
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    rightasrain saidthe phone landscape will be very different later in the summer when more LTE signals are available, the iphone5 is available and android will be in another iteration. keep your current phone or get a cheap flip phone for the next four months and then make a decision.


    unfortunately this logic, while sound, can be applied at any time. there is always something bigger and better in the pipeline. if i wait for the iphone 5 or new dual-core androids then it's just going to be a matter of months, be it 6 or 12, until the next iphone or the new quad core phones are out.

    as far as i'm concerned, both current phones are future proofed enough in their own ways. the iphone already has the apps i want along with the guarantee of being updated with the new iOS. the thunderbolt will be upgradeable (almost indefinitely after root) and will be 4g enabled. once again, it's a toss-up for me.


    the march of technology... yes, i agree. but if the decision requires a contract, wouldn't you rather have a contract with the 'latest and greatest' for a while. everything right now (save for the nexus S, Atrix and thunderbolt (coming)) is mid-cycle. btw, i'm willing to bet the iphone5 will also be dual-core.
  • xtratall

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    Feb 20, 2011 7:43 PM GMT
    appreciate the feedback.

    i think i'll end up taking the plunge on the thunderbolt and keep my fingers crossed for netflix streaming sometime in the future.

    if my computers and laptop were macs i'm sure i'd just stomach the small screen real estate and go iphone. but i don't think i'm willing to download itunes on all of my devices just for my phone.

    there's always future upgrades...
  • UVaRob9

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    Feb 20, 2011 8:37 PM GMT
    While this isn't applicable to your situation, those of us who have Android on a GSM carrier can switch easily between other unlcoked GSM devices...except the iPhone 4 and presumably any future iterations. It's the only American GSM phone that I know of using the micro-SIM card that cannot be interchanged with other devices (iPad uses it too, IIRC). I agree with the earlier poster about not understanding the herd mentality of Apple. When they do things that deliberately make their solution the only one, I'm totally turned off to the idea of giving the brand my money ever again.
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    Feb 20, 2011 8:37 PM GMT
    [quote]http://stevenf.com/wiki/android%20vs.%20iphone.html[/quote]

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    Feb 20, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
    UVaRob9 saidWhile this isn't applicable to your situation, those of us who have Android on a GSM carrier can switch easily between other unlcoked GSM devices...except the iPhone 4 and presumably any future iterations. It's the only American GSM phone that I know of using the micro-SIM card that cannot be interchanged with other devices (iPad uses it too, IIRC). I agree with the earlier poster about not understanding the herd mentality of Apple. When they do things that deliberately make their solution the only one, I'm totally turned off to the idea of giving the brand my money ever again.


    there is no difference between the 'herd mentality' of iphone owners and the 'herd mentality' of android users. each herd espouses their own reasons for using the device of choice... this is no different than making a choice about a car, house or... underwear.

    if the difference in priorities can be summed up, it's that iphone users are willing to forego customizability (the most often touted android 'feature') to get tightly integrated functionality and a guarantee of regular OS updates. android users are willing to deal with less centralization in return for the ability to tinker and have more control.

    choice is good. choose whatever blows up your skirt. ain't american grand?
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    Feb 20, 2011 9:31 PM GMT
    Here's my opinion, they both pretty much do the same things. iPhone and Androids. I've toyed around with an iPhone and it was ok but I'm just not into it. I have the HTC EVO right now and I'm in love with it. I never want another phone. It all boils down to preference and location. My HTC is with Sprint and a lot of people don't like Sprint. I love it. Everything about it and I've had it for years. Both phones have similar features so I recommend just toying with both of them and then picking what you like. I prefer the Android but again, it's my personal preference.