Why do guys do lat pulldowns and tricep extensions?

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    Feb 21, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
    When they could be doing chinups and dips? To me the latter are more challenging, but I constantly see well-trained guys using machines to do the former, and plenty of reps at that. Am I missing something here?
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    Feb 22, 2011 12:27 AM GMT
    I do both and I see plenty of guys doing both as well, dips especially. I'm surprised though at how many young guys , 18-20 ish etc struggle to do 2-3 dips if that. It's kind of sad
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    Feb 22, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    to push more weight?
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    Feb 22, 2011 12:39 AM GMT
    kandsk saidWhen they could be doing chinups and dips? To me the latter are more challenging, but I constantly see well-trained guys using machines to do the former, and plenty of reps at that. Am I missing something here?


    Well dips and pull ups are great. They use other exercises because you can isolate each muscle of the tricep and get a more symmetrical look. And for pull ups people do pull downs because some peoples lats are not strong enough to pull up their body weight. Also the same can go for isolating different parts of the back
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    Feb 22, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
    18melbasian saidto push more weight?


    and pull. Bingo.
    With dips vs push downs, it's easier to shift angle and focus, and keep the movement more strict for more reps.
    You can change grip from wide to narrow, whereas almost every dip station is a fixed width. Chins are another matter, but pulldowns here allow you to increase resistance by adding weight and changing angle more easily.
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    Feb 22, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
    KinesiologyMajor said
    kandsk saidWhen they could be doing chinups and dips? To me the latter are more challenging, but I constantly see well-trained guys using machines to do the former, and plenty of reps at that. Am I missing something here?


    Well dips and pull ups are great. They use other exercises because you can isolate each muscle of the tricep and get a more symmetrical look. And for pull ups people do pull downs because some peoples lats are not strong enough to pull up their body weight. Also the same can go for isolating different parts of the back


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  • gallus81

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    Feb 22, 2011 1:01 AM GMT
    variety, variation ... you know, the 'spice of life' stuff
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    Feb 22, 2011 3:35 AM GMT
    To the OP - I imagine they are doing the pulldowns and extensions for aesthetic reasons; more muscle isolation and development of specific muscles. From a functional standpoint, the pullups and dips are better but if you wanna look good, add the pulldowns and extensions as well. icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 22, 2011 3:35 AM GMT
    Dips are harder on the shoulder joints.
  • TheAlchemixt

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    Feb 22, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
    I like to do different exercises to keep myself from being bored. It is also easier to add weight like other posters said.
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    Feb 22, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    I do both...?
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    Feb 22, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    I can understand the reasons above, but the pushing more weight doesn't appear to be the case. It looks to me like they are pushing less than their bodyweight, and have bad form at that, relying on momentum. These are also guys who look older and more developed than me, hence my confusion.
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    Feb 22, 2011 8:58 PM GMT
    Because there body is probably a different type then yours. You are designed to have a lean body mass, smaller musculature. They are probably designed to carry more fat and higher amounts of muscle.

    I do the lat pull down and rows and tricep extensions and everything else because I can't yet do pullups or dips yet with my shoulder.

    But I would also be careful of how you approach this, they might be preparing for competitions, they could be interested in athletics, they might be training in a very specific fashion set by a coach or trainer.

    Go talk to them, ask them specifically why are they doing a lat pull down, what they are looking to accomplish with the lat pull down and listen to the answer.. if it's not the answer you want YOU don't tell them they are wrong, you thank them for the time, the info and you go on your merry way.
  • MisterT

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    Feb 22, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
    As has been said, variety, each one hits the muscles differently. You want to hit as much as possible, so use different workouts to hit the muscles as completely as possible. Dips and extensions work the triceps is totally different way anyway. Dips are a pressing movement, that also hit the lats, tricep extensions focus on tricep and is an extension movement, not a pressing movement.

    I do pullups/chinups with different grips(palm away and palm toward body) and wide and narrow grips also. I can pull down significantly more than my own weight in some instances, so I use the lat pulldown instead of chin-up for those.

    If someone is training for specific sports, they will do specific things to make them better in that sport, if they are bodybuilding, they want to hit everything as many ways as they can, to develope all muscle groups and be balanced.
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    Feb 23, 2011 4:31 AM GMT
    While you may think they work the muscles exactly the same, they don't. Even the slightest variation in exercises work the muscle differently. It's good to switch things up every 4-6 weeks and many people with injuries (especially rotator cuff) simply cannot do dips. Hell, if I haven't worked out for a while, I can barely do one dip myself. I'm tall with long orangutan arms, so dips are very difficult for me. Although after a couple of weeks, I can do them fine.