roadbikeRob saidChristian73, there is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about this bill that the Governor of Wisconsin is pushing. Since when do unionized government workers have the constitutional right to fleece the taxpayers year after year with these costly, unnecessary collective bargaining agreements that taxpayers have nothing to say about which is wrong. All government union contracts should be subject to public referendum in order to be approved. It is we the people that should have the final word on the unionized public employees wages since we are footing the bill.
The Constitution guarantees the right of free association, which includes the right to form a union. This is further recognized as a fundamental human right by the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which while unenforceable, is recognized by the Untied States.
And unionized public workers are not "fleecing the tax payer." They negotiated their contracts just as private businesses that provide government services negotiated theirs. Unless you are advocating that states vote on the contracts for private sanitation, water treatment, energy, and the whole slew of government activities that have been privatized in many states (at much great cost to tax payers), than you have no argument.
It's said because you sound like you're a middle class guy and you're falling for this right-wing propaganda.
Well the last body that has any credibility in the world is the U.N.
Libya was seated to the the human rights commission of the U.N and in 2003 elected to chair the U.N special commission.
So use of the U.N as a moral instructor on this is a laughable point. The U.N has no credibility.
As for collective bargaining I think its a democratic and good idea in the private sector.
How about the idea for the public workers to accept uncapped vouchers to private schools? ....... non starter with the Union....a NO
How about any ,,,, that is any bargaining agreement go towards voter referendum ? .... another non starter.
Simply the Unions seem to be screaming about democracy but just want it the way that its always been done.
But if you look at it closely they dont want to BARGAIN with the taxpayer. Just the friendly politicians who pass bills at 3am. I think this time they over-reached.
Detroit is a perfect example of overreaching progressive area. The next BATMAN movie is not going to continue filming in Detroit because they took the tax incentive away... So where is it going MONTREAL for the scenes it needed. What a smart city right ? Circling the drain into oblivion , not figuring out it missed an opportunity .
Detroit forgets that what makes a city is not the TAXES it collects, but the business that employs people, brings in a movie that will spend money, eat in its restaurants, and shop in its stores.
I think the Wisconsin people want to make sure there government doesn't need to overtax so it has a business friendly atmosphere.