Top Six Revelations in the Call Between Fake David Koch and Governor Scott Walker

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    Feb 24, 2011 12:19 PM GMT
    "The call made by a Buffalo blogger pretending to be billionaire right-wing activist David Koch to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is quickly making an impact on the news cycle. (You can listen to the call on YouTube: Part 1 | Part 2.)

    Walker is extremely frank with the man he believes to be an important financial supporter, both of his own campaign and right-wing causes. Below are the six most important revelations we learn from listening to the Governor speak his mind.

    1. Walker and the Senate Republicans are conspiring to withhold Democratic lawmakers' paychecks.

    A minute into the call, Governor Walker describes a plan by the Senate Majority Leader to institute a new rule that would stop automatic deductions of lawmakers' paychecks if they do not appear in the Senate for more than two days. It would require lawmakers to appear in person to collect their checks.

    Walker describes this as part of a plan he is working on with GOP Senators: "Each day, we're going to rachet this up a little bit."

    2. Walker sees billionaire David Koch as "one of us."

    Two and a half minutes in, Walker is describing a conversation he had with a Democratic state lawmaker, Tim Cullen, who Walker says is the "only reasonable" one among the Democrats. When the man pretending to be Koch suggests he calls Cullen, Walker says that although Cullen is reasonable, he is not "one of us." Who is the "us" that includes Walker and out-of-state billionaire Koch, but not an elected state legislator?

    3. Walker is planning to threaten state workers with layoffs.

    Five minutes into the call, Governor Walker says he is planning to issue between 5,000 and 6,000 "risk notices" to state workers announcing that they are at risk of being laid off. He makes this statement in the context of what he is planning to do to put pressure on Democrats to cave into his demands, not what is necessary due to the budget crunch. "If they want to start sacrificing thousands of public workers to be laid off," he says, "sooner or later there's gonna be pressure on Senators to come back. We're not going to compromise."

    4. Walker has a plan to lie to Senate Democrats and pass the bill while they are not aware of the vote.

    Seven minutes in, Walker describes a plan created by his chief of staff to call Senate Democrats back to "hear what they have to say." While he is discussing the issues with the Democrats, the Senate would be in recess. In actuality, once Democrats come back to the state assembly, Republicans would be able to pass the bill eliminating collective bargaining rights while Walker is in discussions with Democrats.

    5. Walker considered planting fake protesters to cause trouble among the real protesters.

    Fourteen and a half minutes in, the fake David Koch says that they are considering "planing some troublemakers" among the crowd of protesters. Walker responds with, "we thought about that." He expresses no moral objection to the plan, but says that he thinks it is the wrong strategy, because a "ruckus" would make people think he should compromise.

    6. Walker is corrupt.

    Although early in Walker says they are investigating the Democratic Senators to see if they are committing ethics violations by accepting union funds, when the fake David Koch says he will fly Walker "out to Cali and really show you a good time," Walker responds by saying "that would be outstanding." "

    Huff Post Jesse Berney, February 23, 2011 | 12:59:59 PM (EST
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    Feb 24, 2011 12:37 PM GMT


    Although its exciting to hear these things, saying "that would be outstanding"
    only serves the purposes of enhancing the imagination of the "converted" ideologues to believe in the Koch evil twin brothers.
    Some would expect him to lecture him on the finer points of campaign contributions, but its still "ok" to be gratious to people even though you dont mean it.
    As in , sounds great ..... see ya soon....

    Hopefully some of you can start a legal defense fund for Ian Murphy. I am sure he will have to defend a mountain of civil suits for impersonating David Koch and publishing it.

    Even if he prevails in a parody defense, its going to cost him quite a bit of money defend.

    I guess the Beast was trying a hail marry to get attention. It was food for the converted.


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    Feb 24, 2011 12:42 PM GMT
    Only a jury of all Republicans would convict him.

    BTW, you didn't have to quote my entire posting just to make that response.
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    Feb 24, 2011 1:37 PM GMT
    Total non-issue.
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    Feb 24, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.



    Yea, you too socalfitness are pissed at Governor Wanker.

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    Feb 24, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidOnly a jury of all Republicans would convict him.

    BTW, you didn't have to quote my entire posting just to make that response.


    I know cause the ends justify the means. About every 6 months, liberals prove the "rules for radicals" agenda.

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    Feb 24, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC said
    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.



    Yea, you too socalfitness are pissed at Governor Wanker.

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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but no big deal at all.
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    Feb 24, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
    Yea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    Feb 24, 2011 2:13 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.

    you wish!

    You should change your name to Cleopatra. ... icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 24, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    LeanathleticDC said
    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.

    Yea, you too socalfitness are pissed at Governor Wanker.

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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but no big deal at all.

    If Walker ordered the riot police to shoot down the capitol protestors, a la Gadhafi, we'd likely hear the same response from you. (Actually a Republican Deputy Attorney General in neighboring Indiana has already proposed that) Your extreme partisanship is a bit too much.

    As Caslon illustrates, the guy got caught with his pants down. Now concede he's a dirtbag and stop backing a loser. His anti-labor agenda that we suspected here has been confirmed. This isn't budget-busting but union-busting.

    It's only not a big deal to those who endorse Walker's union-busting policies. And the purchase of a US State Governor by the Koch brothers. Is that what you're saying?
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    Feb 24, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC saidYea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    You kids back to bed! Or eat your breakfast! No computer until you are ready for school!
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    Feb 24, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC saidYea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    What is amazing is how you make assumptions. I'm up real early to walk the dog, work-out, then on and off get on the computer. You're a very silly boy.
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    Feb 24, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
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    LeanathleticDC saidYea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    What is amazing is how you make assumptions. I'm up real early to walk the dog, work-out, then on and off get on the computer. You're a very silly boy.




    I make no assumptions, but have believe the validity of the stereotype of an 5' 6" old man and his red corvette.

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    Feb 24, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    LeanathleticDC saidYea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    What is amazing is how you make assumptions. I'm up real early to walk the dog, work-out, then on and off get on the computer. You're a very silly boy.

    I make no assumptions, but have believe the validity of the stereotype of an 5' 6" old man and his red corvette.

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    Oh we're getting personal now, having to make a age and height comment. For me age is no factor. I stay in shape, have a great attitude, and friends of all ages. And while I have to admit I wouldn't mind being a few inches taller, again my attitude is to stay in great shape and not worry about things I can't change. BTW - had red sports cars for years, even when young. lol

    I've been toying with you, having a bit of fun, but you obviously have some issues, so run along.
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    Feb 24, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    LeanathleticDC said
    socalfitness said
    LeanathleticDC saidYea, no big deal for you to be posting at 6am PST.

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    Got your goat so bad you're posting at 5:47 in the morning.

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    What is amazing is how you make assumptions. I'm up real early to walk the dog, work-out, then on and off get on the computer. You're a very silly boy.

    I make no assumptions, but have believe the validity of the stereotype of an 5' 6" old man and his red corvette.

    icon_lol.gif

    Oh we're getting personal now, having to make a age and height comment. For me age is no factor. I stay in shape, have a great attitude, and friends of all ages. And while I have to admit I wouldn't mind being a few inches taller, again my attitude is to stay in great shape and not worry about things I can't change. BTW - had red sports cars for years, even when young. lol

    I've been toying with you, having a bit of fun, but you obviously have some issues, so run along.


    Got your goat.

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    Feb 24, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
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    Caslon17000 saidOnly a jury of all Republicans would convict him.

    BTW, you didn't have to quote my entire posting just to make that response.


    I know cause the ends justify the means. About every 6 months, liberals prove the "rules for radicals" agenda.



    I'm probably in the top 5 left-wing guys on this site and I've never read "Rules for Radicals." Stop watching Glenn Beck! He's melting your mind.
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    Feb 24, 2011 3:41 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.



    They forgot to add a 7th Revelation:


    7) The lengths people will go to grasp at any morsel of information and exploit it to try and make it a story.


    This is sooooooo yesterday's news, guys. Yes, the audio has gone viral....Yes, it's a bit of a P.R. nightmare for the punk'd Governor...As I said earlier, it will likely be forgotten by the weekend. This is not going to have the legs that many of you are hoping it will.
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    socalfitness saidTotal non-issue.



    They forgot to add a 7th Revelation:


    7) The lengths people will go to grasp at any morsel of information and exploit it to try and make it a story.


    This is sooooooo yesterday's news, guys. Yes, the audio has gone viral....Yes, it's a bit of a P.R. nightmare for the punk'd Governor...As I said earlier, it will likely be forgotten by the weekend. This is not going to have the legs that many of you are hoping it will.




    So much "not a story", that yesterday and today you have to tell us it's not a story.


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  • musclmed

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    Feb 24, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
    just as much as Rep Michael Capuano call for blood.
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    Feb 24, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC said
    So much "not a story", that yesterday and today you have to tell us it's not a story.


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    Only because it's getting so much "wishful thinking" attention here. Let's revisit this issue next Monday and see how unimportant it really is. icon_rolleyes.gif