Obama still asking Court to uphold DADT

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    Feb 26, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    "... Gay rights and conservative activists had been eager to see what the Department of Justice, which faced a Friday deadline for filing its brief, would say just two days after Attorney General Eric Holder announced the government would no longer defend the 1996 federal law that prohibits recognition of same-sex marriages.

    Holder said the decision stemmed from President Obama and his conclusions that any law that treats gay people differently is unconstitutional unless it serves a compelling governmental interest. ...

    "The government's brief is stunning for what it does not say," Woods said. "By not arguing merits of the constitutionality of 'don't ask, don't tell,' the government's brief, by its silence on these issues, is effectively conceding that 'don't ask, don't tell' was and is unconstitutional."

    The Huff Post

    DADT should be struck down on court so it can't come back. The military and O have had plenty of time to plan a transition. This idea didn't just suddenly appear. Why, they could have used the time they saved not making a contingency plan for resistence in Iraq to plan the transition. We have the stupidest military brass ever to exist on Earth.

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    Feb 26, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
    This is what I mean about Obama. First he wants the horrible DOMA to be repealed but when it comes to the equally horrendous DADT, he completely changes course by wanting DADT upheld as law. Our president is more unpredictable than the weather.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 26, 2011 3:25 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThis is what I mean about Obama. First he wants the horrible DOMA to be repealed but when it comes to the equally horrendous DADT, he completely changes course by wanting DADT upheld as law. Our president is more unpredictable than the weather.



    Ummm, HELL-OH, what did ya think "Change" meant? icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 26, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    Here's the full article so you can see why the DOJ did so

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/25/obama-court-uphold-dadt_n_828488.html

    Even if the DOJ stops defending DADT, you can still be discharged in the military, so it's not over yet.
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    Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    I think the psy-ops of the army had an effect on him and the Justice Department. icon_lol.gif

    OPAsked what differentiated the DOMA and the DADT decisions, a Justice Department spokesperson told HuffPost that "the constitutionality of DADT must be viewed in light of the special deference courts grant to the military."


    Personally, I think it's a simple reminder to servicemen not to come out yet since the military isn't "prepared" yet in times of war--this opposed to the American public regarding marriage equality, which is supported by the majority of the population, and is a personal decision between 2 people without national security ramifications.
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    Feb 27, 2011 1:09 AM GMT
    This is an area where if Obama were the bold, progressive leader he would have us believe he is...

    ... by the his power as CinC of the armed forces, he could order the top brass to indefinitely suspend DADT pending a negative outcome from an appropriate court.

    Using the same logic with ordering the AG and the DoJ not to defend DOMA in certain courts might carry over here as well, no?
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:40 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThis is what I mean about Obama. First he wants the horrible DOMA to be repealed but when it comes to the equally horrendous DADT, he completely changes course by wanting DADT upheld as law. Our president is more unpredictable than the weather.



    Ummm, HELL-OH, what did ya think "Change" meant? icon_wink.gif




    NOPE.
    The process to end DADT is proceeding at full force.
    In fact, gay sailors will be able to serve openly in two weeks.
    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/02/navy-cno-dont-ask-is-easy-022511w/

    And, President Obama has said or done nothing to suggest that he wants DADT upheld as law.
    He's made it very clear with his words - and when he signed the bill repealing DADT - that he does NOT want DADT upheld as law.

    "CHANGE" is UNDERWAY.