Scholarship for "white" men only...in Texas

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    Feb 27, 2011 4:13 AM GMT
    Tough luck if you're a white female. Hey, you just need 25% Caucasian, so doesn't matter if you have black or brown skin...although I'm sure the fair-skinned candidates will fare better.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-texas-scholarships-idUSTRE71P25M20110226
    (Reuters) - Members of a new Texas association are starting a college scholarship program for a group of students they say do not have as many scholarship options as others -- white men.

    Colby Bohannan, a student at Texas State University in San Marcos, and some friends have formed the non-profit Former Majority Association for Equality, which will provide the scholarships. The idea was that there are many scholarships geared toward helping minorities and women attend college, and there are also scholarships for people from certain religions or from certain families. But Bohannan thought his demographic group was missing.

    "We know that we're going to be receiving some vicious attacks, from people claiming that we are racists, or promoting some bigotry-filled agenda," Bohannan said on Thursday.

    Starting this summer, the association plans to provide as many as five $500 scholarships to deserving white men who have at least a 3.0 grade point average, Bohannan said.

    "Our aim is actually just to help students," he said. "We are not trying to jump on any political agenda or bandwagon."

    Non-Hispanic whites are, in fact, a minority in the state of Texas. Census numbers released earlier this month show that they make up about 42 percent of the state's population, down from more than half just ten years ago.

    To qualify for the group's scholarship, applicants have to be able to prove that they are at least 25 percent Caucasian," Bohannan said.

    "We're not looking for blond-haired, blue-eyed, stereotypical white males," he said. "My feeling is that if you can say you're 25 percent Caucasian, you're Caucasian enough for us."
  • commoncoll

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    Feb 27, 2011 4:41 AM GMT
    They could have just given the scholarships to them unannounced, but I suppose they wanted to make it public and open themselves for criticism.

    I really see nothing wrong with it. It seems as if they are doing it to just make a point. Rather silly but harmless. But how are white males excluded from a lot of other merit scholarships?
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:59 AM GMT
    commoncoll saidThey could have just given the scholarships to them unannounced, but I suppose they wanted to make it public and open themselves for criticism.


    I think they should. It'll be fun to watch mentally retarded minorities bitch and complain that White people are oppressing them. Although I'm sure more minority leaders and organizations will either not care or just roll their eyes and move on.

    And hey Obama can apply for this scholarship!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    FeartheFall will be thrilled!
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    JAKEBENSON said
    commoncoll saidThey could have just given the scholarships to them unannounced, but I suppose they wanted to make it public and open themselves for criticism.


    I think they should. It'll be fun to watch mentally retarded minorities bitch and complain that White people are oppressing them. Although I'm sure more minority leaders and organizations will either not care or just roll their eyes and move on.

    And hey Obama can apply for this scholarship!icon_biggrin.gif


    I am going to go with the latter.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:11 AM GMT
    I'm just waiting for the lawsuit that hits them when they give the scholarship to a "whiter" guy who has a worse GPA than a guy who's got the 25% Caucasian lineage. And then we can all dissect the follies of counting percentage of "whiteness" in court.icon_lol.gif
  • conservativej...

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    Feb 27, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    They are far from being first to intervene when there appears to be a gap in opportunities due to racial bias. There are many avenues through which to fund scholorships for white males and white females. I was in fact involved in a conversation in a small city last week where such opportunities are needed both at the K-12 level (the local schools are shal we say non-functional), technical school, and university level.
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    Feb 27, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
    Scholarships for redheads:now there's a scholarship that's really more specific than the 25% Caucasian criterion. Because, as we know, redheads are sooooo discriminated against in college. icon_lol.gif
    http://www.redhead-world.net/blogs/entry/Redhead-Scholarship-Not-a-Myth
    http://scholarshipred.webs.com/Requirements: The requirements are pretty simple. You must be a junior or senior in high school in the United States. Grades above 2.0 are acceptable, but there will be some focus on academic standing. There are two main criteria. You must submit two photos proving you are a natural redhead. The most important criteria is to submit something describing what being a redhead means to you - "academic essay, drawing, or YouTube video." This component is anything goes and creativity and redheadedness are the important things.

    Amount: $250

    Deadline: March 31, 2010

    Winner Notified: May 1, 2010
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    Feb 27, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    I do think there are white people who don't have adequate access to college, but it's because of *class* not *race*.

    If these people had *really* wanted to make a difference -- rather than a somewhat racist political point -- they should have made the scholarship specifically for people from a low-income background.

    Of course, they didn't.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:41 PM GMT
    This is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:24 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    You really should bother to read their website before making your usual ill-informed comments.

    Firstly, A Better Chance doesn't actually give out scholarships.

    Secondly, A Better Chance requires applicants to specify family income in their process to determine fee waivers etc, and as part of the process of helping applicants obtain financial support for their studies. If "family income" isn't a proxy of "class", I don't know what is.

    Why not read their helpful FAQ?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/abetterchance.aspx?pgID=1253
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    There will always be those you work in behalf of the betterment of their race but chide others when they do the same. those individuals truly do not bother me at all. They certainly have no power to prevent me from doing the very same thing they are doing. They most often do however lack my resources. icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    There will always be those you work in behalf of the betterment of their race but chide others when they do the same. those individuals truly do not bother me at all. They certainly have no power to prevent me from doing the very same thing they are doing. They most often do however lack my resources. icon_cool.gif


    If you really are rich, then there would be *nothing* better that you could do than creating a scholarship program for low-income/working class white families who've never sent a child to college.

    Why not do it? Rather than prattle, take action!
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    You really should bother to read their website before making your usual ill-informed comments.

    Firstly, A Better Chance doesn't actually give out scholarships.

    Secondly, A Better Chance requires applicants to specify family income in their process to determine fee waivers etc, and as part of the process of helping applicants obtain financial support for their studies. If "family income" isn't a proxy of "class", I don't know what is.

    Why not read their helpful FAQ?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/abetterchance.aspx?pgID=1253


    Are you really trying to argue this with petty semantics? Really? I was providing an example of an organization dedicated to promoting "people of color" (whatever that is supposed to mean). I didn't say this organization in particular directly grants scholarships -- there are numerous scholarship programs that do directly single out perceived "disadvantaged" groups -- I didn't even have to cite one to point out your double standard. Furthermore, I like how you try to pretend that this organization does not specifically discriminate on the basis of race in their consideration (whether income/class is considered in the criteria doesn't change the fact).

    That being said, I have no problem at all with an organization like this, only your blatant hypocrisy. If there was an equivalent organization only helping low income white children you would absolutely categorize it as racist.
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    Feb 27, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Are you really trying to argue this with petty semantics? Really? I was providing an example of an organization dedicated to promoting "people of color" (whatever that is supposed to mean). I didn't say this organization in particular directly grants scholarships -- there are numerous scholarship programs that do directly single out perceived "disadvantaged" groups -- I didn't even have to cite one to point out your double standard. Furthermore, I like how you try to pretend that this organization does not specifically discriminate on the basis of race in their consideration (whether income/class is considered in the criteria doesn't change the fact).

    That being said, I have no problem at all with an organization like this, only your blatant hypocrisy. If there was an equivalent organization only helping low income white children you would absolutely categorize it as racist.


    It's a bit rich for you to relabel the fact that you were COMPLETELY WRONG and GROSSLY MISREPRESENTED what the organization does as "a semantic issue".

    Moreover, far from being a hypocrite I actually encouraged conservativejock above to put his claimed money where his mouth is and start a scholarship for low-income white students. How on earth can you claim that I'd think this was racist?!?!?

    You constantly amaze me by your stupidity!
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    conservativejock said
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    There will always be those you work in behalf of the betterment of their race but chide others when they do the same. those individuals truly do not bother me at all. They certainly have no power to prevent me from doing the very same thing they are doing. They most often do however lack my resources. icon_cool.gif


    If you really are rich, then there would be *nothing* better that you could do than creating a scholarship program for low-income/working class white families who've never sent a child to college.

    Why not do it? Rather than prattle, take action!


    I have.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    mocktwinkie said
    Are you really trying to argue this with petty semantics? Really? I was providing an example of an organization dedicated to promoting "people of color" (whatever that is supposed to mean). I didn't say this organization in particular directly grants scholarships -- there are numerous scholarship programs that do directly single out perceived "disadvantaged" groups -- I didn't even have to cite one to point out your double standard. Furthermore, I like how you try to pretend that this organization does not specifically discriminate on the basis of race in their consideration (whether income/class is considered in the criteria doesn't change the fact).

    That being said, I have no problem at all with an organization like this, only your blatant hypocrisy. If there was an equivalent organization only helping low income white children you would absolutely categorize it as racist.


    It's a bit rich for you to relabel the fact that you were COMPLETELY WRONG and GROSSLY MISREPRESENTED what the organization does as "a semantic issue".

    Moreover, far from being a hypocrite I actually encouraged conservativejock above to put his claimed money where his mouth is and start a scholarship for low-income white students. How on earth can you claim that I'd think this was racist?!?!?



    You constantly amaze me by your stupidity!


    Stupidity is when you can't figure out that it doesn't matter whether or not the particular organization (ABC) I cited actually provides direct scholarship aid to "children of color". You act like you're completely unaware that there are in fact numerous other institutions dedicated to providing "disadvantaged people of color" with scholarships -- I merely provided a link to the first institution that came to mind dedicated to racial discrimination in its practices. Your double-standard is still just as palpable as ever.

    You said: "If these people had *really* wanted to make a difference -- rather than a somewhat racist political point -- they should have made the scholarship specifically for people from a low-income background."

    So are you against institutions only advocating for people of color in addition to coming from a low-income background? Personally I could care less. To each their own.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    As strange as it is mock, I agree with you.

    I think in the quest to ensure everyone has an equal shot at things, and no one is excluded, we forget that those who are paying the price for racial or gender discrimination are not those who directly benefiitted from that discrimination: it's a younger generation who have endured 'reverse discrimination' with no practical benefit...because of their race.

    I just don't see this issue as any different from institutions giving scholarships solely to persons of colour, women, etc...

    Perhaps young white males, especially those who have grown up with none of the discernable benefits that had historically been afforded white males (in other words, those who have grown up in poor homes), are deserving of a break as well!
  • rnch

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    Feb 27, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    after almost 25 years of employment by the feds and careful observation of federal hiring practices and procedures; i can truthfully say that the Pale Male comes in last in today's world.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    TrentGrad said
    mocktwinkie saidThis is no different than the multitude of institutions dedicated to giving scholarships to African Americans or another particular race. What's the big deal?

    Where's your outrage for "A Better Chance"?

    http://www.abetterchance.org/

    Dedicated only to helping "children of color", not according to income or class.


    As strange as it is mock, I agree with you.

    I think in the quest to ensure everyone has an equal shot at things, and no one is excluded, we forget that those who are paying the price for racial or gender discrimination are not those who directly benefiitted from that discrimination: it's a younger generation who have endured 'reverse discrimination' with no practical benefit...because of their race.

    I just don't see this issue as any different from institutions giving scholarships solely to persons of colour, women, etc...

    Perhaps young white males, especially those who have grown up with none of the discernable benefits that had historically been afforded white males (in other words, those who have grown up in poor homes), are deserving of a break as well!


    Yep. An institution advocating for tigers doesn't qualify as hate against lions, and to me, this is the same situation.
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:07 AM GMT
    rnch saidafter almost 25 years of employment by the feds and careful observation of federal hiring practices and procedures; i can truthfully say that the Pale Male comes in last in today's world.


    Lol, and I thought it was the Asian guy (not gal, mind you) that claimed that title...I stand corrected.icon_lol.gif