i might become a Elite Model, but i need help

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    Feb 27, 2011 8:39 AM GMT
    Ok the most amazing and scary thing has been happen to me lately. I been talking to a modeling agent who works for elite modeling and talent. I had a meeting with one of the agents or recruiters and he told me i have a shot and i have shape but on model standards i am out of shape and i need to work on building my chest and calves and gaining more definition in my body especially my legs, which are birdy. So my question is can someone give a hint on what all i need to do and how often i need to do this i have 3 months to work on it and then they will get back to me.

    Now before you say hit gnc up and take all the suppliments he said those hardly work and i dont need to gain more muscle or weight i juss need to get more toned and defined because my measurements are good and there and i did not know i had a 28 inch waist lol, go me lol, but yea help me plz.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:26 PM GMT
    I won't give you advice on aesthetics, but my advice is on dealing with agents, etc. Be careful with their representations, promises, legitimacy, etc. If they ask you for money, that's generally a red flag. It's important to have a good portfolio. I was a model I(ads, catalogs, etc.) from age 10-15 until I stopped growing, so I know a thing or two about the pitfalls of modeling. Trust your instincts and find a good mentor/adviser. Best of luck.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    Ay ... to the Oh on the previous post

    But hell
    if it's something you wanna try go for it
    Thing is .... if you're going to have to push yourself to get to that body type
    and it is a specific body type
    esp for the type of modeling you're talking about

    Are you going to be able to maintain that body ... over time

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    Cause that is what's asked for now
    and usually what's expected
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    Having worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense.


    I have to agree.
    5'7" is REALLY below.....plus you need to change your body too.

    You have 2 things not going for you now....and they want you? Sounds fishy.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.


    my friend is 5'9" and he is a professional model... a hand model. he has really nice hands.
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    yea, agree with all other comments having seen the inside of this world, so I won't repeat. But just be cautious, be smart, and don't take anything to seriously in that world...people do work hard in that industry, but it the end its all about creating an image/show. Oh and please don't get pulled into paying for anything.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.


    i concur! I was actually a model for a few Italian designers in the Milan/Dubai market but when i switched over to North America, Elite said i need to be at least 6' 2 here and me being 5' 11 wont cut it since they are primarily a high fashion runway agency.

    I have a hard time believing this as well/could be fishy.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.


    I agree with CuriousJockAZ. He hits the nail on the head. Sorry to say to you that if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I worked in the industry out of NYC for a few years. Guys are a dime a dozen and there is no way they are going to wait for you to get in shape when there is someone else who can fill your shoes immediately.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.


    This x10.

    Be very careful of people saying they can sign you as a model who don't verify their affiliation with a legitimate agency. Their promises usually come with a price tag- never give money to an agent as they probably aren't legit.

    Travel to New York or LA, go to all the open calls you can and then you'll get your answer if you might become a model or not.

    Lot's of people underestimate how tough and competitive that industry is.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    There is a scam that has been going on for years that involves Elite. The Elite you are thinking, Elite Model Management IS a top agency founded by the somewhat infamous John Casablancas in the 70's. They are based in NY with offices in Paris and LA. Go online and see their roster then decide how you may fit into it.

    There have been a ZILLION companies that use some variation of Elite in their name but have no affilliation. Elite Stars, Elite Talent, Elite Ltd., Elite Beauty etc. Again go online and you can read many stories. Many like yours where people who do not fit the traditional criteria may "have a shot" but first need "training."

    If you want to improve yourself in any way - go for it!!! But please, do NOT do it for this "agent." You are a great looking guy - good luck in all your endeavorsicon_smile.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 6:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.


    Yea he told me my height is only good for print and that's it I wouldn't be able to do any other thing and I got three months to see if I can tone up plus.my age is 27 but he tried talking me out of it a lot. But I know a lil because my cousin did it so I ask her a lot of stuff
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    Feb 27, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHaving worked in that business as both an agent and manager, I am having a hard time swallowing this one -- mostly because of your height. 5'7" is really REALLY below the general standard for working models. Even 5'10" is a stretch, but most models are 6' or taller. I would be extremely wary of this agency trying to sell you any sort of photography sessions or modeling classes, though having worked with Elite (that is if you are talking about one of their offfices in New York or L.A.) in the past, they are really not in the business of doing that sort of thing. If they really truly believe in you as a potential model, they will set up photography sessions with top photographers and classes at their expense. Is this Elite in New York, or one of their smaller regional operations in Arkansas? If it's a smaller operation in your hometown, be prepared for them to try and sell you some sort of photography session and/or classes, at which time you should walk away. Trust me on this, Elite in NYC or L.A. would not be doing this. Hot guys with already perfect model bodies are a dime a dozen, and they simply would likely not be interested in signing someone who doesn't fit in the clothes.



    It's elite from nyc, Miami, L.A. AND SO ON he was like its rare to.be in this area because its nothing here. He tho is a retired agent but works on the recruiting side the agent I talked to was in Dallas but travels he said this guy was the close to me so I tried it but yea he said if I show dedication in it Scott the agent will invest in me a portfolio and stylist but he really wants me to tone up cus I'm small framed he said my measurements r good but I have my work cut out for me right now
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    Feb 27, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
    If they dont take you right away then thats a sign they cant use you, If they think you can make them money then they would have put you under contact right away.... Just my opinion....
    If your trying to get a better body then i suggest a trainer.....
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:05 PM GMT
    i ordered this sugarcoat remove from amazon.com. i feel like using it on the responses in this thread but i am afraid you will hate me.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    I echo the same conclusion of many of the posters above me....A Runway male model must be at least 6 and above with clear skin and maintained fitness. 5'11 is the minimum for editorial shoots unless you happened to be a celebrity.

    The only exception I can think of was Kate Moss (she is actually 5'icon_cool.gif but she had body that looks deceptively tall and it was her waif like body that set a new tone of 'skinny chic'

    I work in the apparel business and when it comes to sample fittings, we usually take guys the with the height requirements.

    Legit agencies such as Ford, Next and Elite take photos and help develop your portfolios for you because they will take it out of your modeling salary the minute you get booked.

    No one is trying to bring you down but we are showing you the harsh reality of what modeling is about.

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    Feb 27, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    Thirty years ago one of the first thing a Manhattan male fashion modeling agent would look for at a model audition would be shoe lifts, and the first question would be what your real height was. I don't know if that's still the case but it should tell you something.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    Bitter: Party of,half the guys on here; you're table's ready!!!

    Huge lessons about attachment to outcome.
    It's not if.....It's the degree of how sorry are you that you committed to the inane way of life that awaits...balanced against the outcome it produces.

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    Feb 27, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    yeah man, fuck the nay-sayers. Go for it. Do it, It might work out it moght not, u gotta at least try it.

    Um, as far as building ur legs? icon_lol.gif

    uhhhhhh, dont have an answer for u, but find that shit out and build those motherfuckin legs and see what happens, if nothing else, you'll have really hot legs in the end
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:36 PM GMT
    Import saidyeah man, fuck the nay-sayers. Go for it. Do it, It might work out it moght not, u gotta at least try it.

    Um, as far as building ur legs? icon_lol.gif

    uhhhhhh, dont have an answer for u, but find that shit out and build those motherfuckin legs and see what happens, if nothing else, you'll have really hot legs in the end



    I know most of us are not trying to make him feel bad, we are giving him a realistic outlook of what the modeling business is all about.

    When a model is scouted they are given the agents card as well as their home office card. What usually happens is that you get booked for a test shoot and the model agencies usually have people to groom you to what is model acceptability.
    Unless the agent is specifically asked about you in appearing in television adverts which height can be debated, a top agency will simply ignore you...

    If you wanna workout on your legs...Do leg extensions, hamstring curls(?) and calves
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    nofearpdx saidBitter: Party of,half the guys on here; you're table's ready!!!

    Huge lessons about attachment to outcome.
    It's not if.....It's the degree of how sorry are you that you committed to the inane way of life that awaits...balanced against the outcome it produces.

    Post on here: get feedback from allies; smoke two joints....then go eat.icon_lol.gif


    Really?

    Where are you seeing bitterness? It seems people who actually have experience in the industry are offering opinions based on real-life experience. It seems that most have been quite kind in offering guidance - and no one is shooting down a dream, just offering insights gleaned from participating in a business VERY few have any real knowledge of.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    dekiruman saidI was scouted by IMG before. But I declined because they implied that they wanted me to quit school. They actually didn't want me to gain definition, they wanted me to lose 15lbs. I met a really great friend who already has a contract with them though and we still talk regularly. He's in Greece now and he gets a pretty decent amount of work but says he's still not making the money he wants to. He took a break off from college to go and I think he regrets the decision because he thought he was gonna be the next tyra. He only gets runway but hasn't booked any ad campaigns which is where the money is.

    I thought it was cool that they were looking at me. But even if I wanted to do it I would never be successful because my body fluctuates to much. One month I'll be fat, skinny the next, muscular the next. I could never maintain a consistent physique and given all the factors that went into the whole thing............it just didn't sound fun. icon_confused.gif not to mention the fact that if I even quit school, my parents would murder me in some brutal torturous way icon_eek.gif


    I'm 145 and this the biggest I have ever been. I was 115 but I was asked years ago to do it and said no cus of family cousin did it for a year and I got a friend who does it now he likes it a lil
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:37 PM GMT
    Just check his credentials....there are a lot of people out there doing scams. A good friend of ours got scammed and luckily my partner helped her out otherwise they would have taken a lot of her money.
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    Feb 27, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    lissenup saidJust check his credentials....there are a lot of people out there doing scams. A good friend of ours got scammed and luckily my partner helped her out otherwise they would have taken a lot of her money.


    I have not been asked to pay anything lol. Now I.have been in the past but I know that in the industry they will invest in u and make it back but the agent i talk to wants to see if I'm.dedicated but I have not met him.because he lives in a totally diff state I had to meet the nearest recruiter the other day but he actually tried to talk me out it.
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    Feb 27, 2011 9:44 PM GMT
    Just work out hard for yourself but dont put all your hopes in that