Detamoso Pantera

  • conservativej...

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    Feb 27, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    Anyone remember the Detamoso Pantera? Spring always makes me think of sports cars and while out driving my 620 hp toy I thought of the arrival of my 1972 Pantera. It arrived in early 1972 and sat while I drove a Buick with the learner's permit.

    Those times saw the closing of the "muscle car" era. My buddies and I however were all about muscle cars. We had a shop of some 150,000 square feet with Corvettes, my Pantera, two Bricklins and other cars in various states of assembly including the greats: Old 442, Pontiac Grand Am, and Buick Skylark GSX.

    Get out, find a twisty road, and have fun today guys!!
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    i certainly remember the de tomaso. Italian slept with ford to create this vehicle. 351cid Windsor transaxle. Very few nice ones left and a few junkers on the market. A nice totally restored one can still be picked up for under $100K if you look, but watch for corner cutting splash jobs. It was an untouchable beauty in its time and is still in a 'supercar' class of its own.....Keithicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    i was just watching the mecum auto auction last night and one was auctioned off. gorgeous italian style.
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    Feb 27, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
    Homowardbound saidi certainly remember the de tomaso. Italian slept with ford to create this vehicle. 351cid Windsor transaxle. Very few nice ones left and a few junkers on the market. A nice totally restored one can still be picked up for under $100K if you look, but watch for corner cutting splash jobs. It was an untouchable beauty in its time and is still in a 'supercar' class of its own.....Keithicon_wink.gif


    Mine was a 351 Cleveland Cobra Jet. Oddly, I have a diesel that has more power than that engine these days. In '72 they switched from gross to net power. The numbers were truly low. But I did pull the engine in 1974 and build it to race prep.
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    Really loved the look of a Bricklin when they were in production.
    1087961975bricklinsv1.jpg

    I'm currently secretly in love the Aston Martin Volante:

    aston-martin-db9-volante-side-2_75.jpg
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    Feb 27, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Really loved the look of a Bricklin when they were in production.
    1087961975bricklinsv1.jpg

    I'm currently secretly in love the Aston Martin Volante:

    aston-martin-db9-volante-side-2_75.jpg


    A buddy and I totaled the Bricklin. icon_sad.gif Of course we did manage not to destroy a '67 Split Window 427 Corvette. Lol. It did however take a beating late one evening on an excursion away from a local sheriff's deputy.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    not to be an elitist snob but the only split window made by corvette was a '63, hence the high collectibility...................and I stand corrected, the tomaso was a Cleveland, not a windsor....Keithicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    Homowardbound saidnot to be an elitist snob but the only split window made by corvette was a '63, hence the high collectibility...................and I stand corrected, the tomaso was a Cleveland, not a windsor....Keithicon_wink.gif


    I thought it was a 1967. There are two rear windows as I recall. They were not removeable. Old age may be getting me Keith. It was a 4 speed.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
    Homowardbound saidnot to be an elitist snob but the only split window made by corvette was a '63, hence the high collectibility...................and I stand corrected, the tomaso was a Cleveland, not a windsor....Keithicon_wink.gif


    You are right. This is the car (not literally). White. Don't remember the interior color.

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    Feb 27, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
    I took a ride in a Pantera with one of my Dad's friends.
    I went from the Santa Ana Airport (?) to Bristol St exit on the 5, by South Coast Plaza; and then back to the airport on streets. Very very fast! Incredibly quick.

    I knew I would bottom some by then, but I was still a kid.

    My Dad taught me to drive, later in the seventies...in a Camaro with great tires, a quad 396 with racing gears....ridiculous.

    I live in Portlandia now...so I ride a bike.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    yup, the 63 was bill mitchell and Larry Tanaka's dream build but GM/Chevrolet didn't like the split due to limited vision, soooo they killed it for 64 not knowing they made a very valuable collector. I may stand to be corrected but if you were driviing that year with a 427, then it had a replacement engine. 327/250hp. 3spd was the entry model with an optional 4sp 327/360hp available.....not being snotty, just know my vettes after spending 3 years on a body off....but they are still an amazing car to this day, if you do a little hidden mods on them to make them fun...sounds like that's what your buddy did.........Keithicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:58 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidAnyone remember the Detamoso Pantera? Spring always makes me think of sports cars and while out driving my 620 hp toy I thought of the arrival of my 1972 Pantera. It arrived in early 1972 and sat while I drove a Buick with the learner's permit.

    Those times saw the closing of the "muscle car" era. My buddies and I however were all about muscle cars. We had a shop of some 150,000 square feet with Corvettes, my Pantera, two Bricklins and other cars in various states of assembly including the greats: Old 442, Pontiac Grand Am, and Buick Skylark GSX.

    Get out, find a twisty road, and have fun today guys!!
    The Pantera was a good looking car. Enjoy the 620 hp. Mine is more, but 620 is still ok, and enough to get yourself in trouble. Be careful.
  • DCEric

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    Feb 27, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    Pantera_2000.jpg
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    DCEric saidPantera_2000.jpg


    surprised it took this long

  • conservativej...

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    Feb 27, 2011 11:18 PM GMT
    nofearpdx saidI took a ride in a Pantera with one of my Dad's friends.
    I went from the Santa Ana Airport (?) to Bristol St exit on the 5, by South Coast Plaza; and then back to the airport on streets. Very very fast! Incredibly quick.

    I knew I would bottom some by then, but I was still a kid.

    My Dad taught me to drive, later in the seventies...in a Camaro with great tires, a quad 396 with racing gears....ridiculous.

    I live in Portlandia now...so I ride a bike.


    Quad 396? You mean a 396 Big Block with a single Qudrajet carb? Seems I built a 396 for something and replaced the Quadrajet with a Carter Thermoquad, which had a phenolic body that kept the air path cooler.
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    Feb 27, 2011 11:20 PM GMT
    Homowardbound saidyup, the 63 was bill mitchell and Larry Tanaka's dream build but GM/Chevrolet didn't like the split due to limited vision, soooo they killed it for 64 not knowing they made a very valuable collector. I may stand to be corrected but if you were driviing that year with a 427, then it had a replacement engine. 327/250hp. 3spd was the entry model with an optional 4sp 327/360hp available.....not being snotty, just know my vettes after spending 3 years on a body off....but they are still an amazing car to this day, if you do a little hidden mods on them to make them fun...sounds like that's what your buddy did.........Keithicon_wink.gif


    Yes, it was an engine my buddy Tim placed in the car. Keep in mind we typically pulled these things apart for one reason or another. I'm not sure how he acquired the car. We were very spoiled kids. I remember walking into the shop one day and finding a pair of Donovan cylinder heads for a small block. First I had seen.
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    Feb 27, 2011 11:23 PM GMT
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    conservativejock saidAnyone remember the Detamoso Pantera? Spring always makes me think of sports cars and while out driving my 620 hp toy I thought of the arrival of my 1972 Pantera. It arrived in early 1972 and sat while I drove a Buick with the learner's permit.

    Those times saw the closing of the "muscle car" era. My buddies and I however were all about muscle cars. We had a shop of some 150,000 square feet with Corvettes, my Pantera, two Bricklins and other cars in various states of assembly including the greats: Old 442, Pontiac Grand Am, and Buick Skylark GSX.

    Get out, find a twisty road, and have fun today guys!!
    The Pantera was a good looking car. Enjoy the 620 hp. Mine is more, but 620 is still ok, and enough to get yourself in trouble. Be careful.


    I drove Corvettes like on your profile (except older) for a long time. About 1980 or so I moved over completely to Porsches and such. The GT2 is an amazing car.

    Have you purchased a ZL1?
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    Feb 27, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
    DCEric saidPantera_2000.jpg


    Lol. We were like the guy on the right. I recall muscle in many ways. icon_biggrin.gif
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    conservativejock saidAnyone remember the Detamoso Pantera? Spring always makes me think of sports cars and while out driving my 620 hp toy I thought of the arrival of my 1972 Pantera. It arrived in early 1972 and sat while I drove a Buick with the learner's permit.

    Those times saw the closing of the "muscle car" era. My buddies and I however were all about muscle cars. We had a shop of some 150,000 square feet with Corvettes, my Pantera, two Bricklins and other cars in various states of assembly including the greats: Old 442, Pontiac Grand Am, and Buick Skylark GSX.

    Get out, find a twisty road, and have fun today guys!!
    The Pantera was a good looking car. Enjoy the 620 hp. Mine is more, but 620 is still ok, and enough to get yourself in trouble. Be careful.


    I drove Corvettes like on your profile (except older) for a long time. About 1980 or so I moved over completely to Porsches and such. The GT2 is an amazing car.

    Have you purchased a ZL1?

    The ZR1 is a good car, but they are much less powerful than my car. Mine is the convertible pictured in my profile. Unusual to have so much power in a vert, but it has a custom built engine + supercharger and associated instrumentation, and all performance suspension components. Much more than can be used on the street. For the track would need a roll bar. In my locale are all kinds of fast cars, Porsches, Ferraris. I love the looks of the Vette as a shell to work from as a basis to build exactly what I want.
  • rnch

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    Feb 27, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
    italian & british sports cars of the 60's and 70's are akin to your bf having a large penis.

    it's an object of worship to those who lust after it, fun to look at, exciting to run your hands over and stroke, great for an occassional ride......but a pain in the ass to deal with on a daily basis.
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    conservativejock said
    socalfitness said
    conservativejock saidAnyone remember the Detamoso Pantera? Spring always makes me think of sports cars and while out driving my 620 hp toy I thought of the arrival of my 1972 Pantera. It arrived in early 1972 and sat while I drove a Buick with the learner's permit.

    Those times saw the closing of the "muscle car" era. My buddies and I however were all about muscle cars. We had a shop of some 150,000 square feet with Corvettes, my Pantera, two Bricklins and other cars in various states of assembly including the greats: Old 442, Pontiac Grand Am, and Buick Skylark GSX.

    Get out, find a twisty road, and have fun today guys!!
    The Pantera was a good looking car. Enjoy the 620 hp. Mine is more, but 620 is still ok, and enough to get yourself in trouble. Be careful.


    I drove Corvettes like on your profile (except older) for a long time. About 1980 or so I moved over completely to Porsches and such. The GT2 is an amazing car.

    Have you purchased a ZL1?

    The ZR1 is a good car, but they are much less powerful than my car. Mine is the convertible pictured in my profile. Unusual to have so much power in a vert, but it has a custom built engine + supercharger and associated instrumentation, and all performance suspension components. Much more than can be used on the street. For the track would need a roll bar. In my locale are all kinds of fast cars, Porsches, Ferraris. I love the looks of the Vette as a shell to work from as a basis to build exactly what I want.


    Yes, ZR1. Goes to show you I do not follow Vettes these days. I once considered a Gale Banks turboed Vette. I think I ended up with a modified 500SL.
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:11 AM GMT
    rnch saiditalian & british sports cars of the 60's and 70's are akin to your bf having a large penis.

    it's an object of worship to those who lust after it, fun to look at, exciting to run your hands over and stroke, great for an occassional ride......but a pain in the ass to deal with on a daily basis.


    Amen.
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    Yes, ZR1. Goes to show you I do not follow Vettes these days. I once considered a Gale Banks turboed Vette. I think I ended up with a modified 500SL.

    Yup, and I don't follow Porsches too much. There are a couple of guys around with GT2s - I think the model is GT2 RS; they were pleased, so I'm sure they are very nice cars.

    On the British cars, I have a 79 MGB, fire engine red conv with black top. When that's all polished up, it turns more heads than all the new stuff. I wouldn't want to drive it daily - it can be quirky, but if you stay on top of them, they're ok.
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
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    conservativejock said
    Yes, ZR1. Goes to show you I do not follow Vettes these days. I once considered a Gale Banks turboed Vette. I think I ended up with a modified 500SL.

    Yup, and I don't follow Porsches too much. There are a couple of guys around with GT2s - I think the model is GT2 RS; they were pleased, so I'm sure they are very nice cars.

    On the British cars, I have a 79 MGB, fire engine red conv with black top. When that's all polished up, it turns more heads than all the new stuff. I wouldn't want to drive it daily - it can be quirky, but if you stay on top of them, they're ok.


    A buddy in college had some type MGB. I recall you could drain the shock absorbers and replace the fluid in order to adjust stiffness.

    Does your Vett e use a roots type blower?
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    Yes, ZR1. Goes to show you I do not follow Vettes these days. I once considered a Gale Banks turboed Vette. I think I ended up with a modified 500SL.

    Yup, and I don't follow Porsches too much. There are a couple of guys around with GT2s - I think the model is GT2 RS; they were pleased, so I'm sure they are very nice cars.

    On the British cars, I have a 79 MGB, fire engine red conv with black top. When that's all polished up, it turns more heads than all the new stuff. I wouldn't want to drive it daily - it can be quirky, but if you stay on top of them, they're ok.


    A buddy in college had some type MGB. I recall you could drain the shock absorbers and replace the fluid in order to adjust stiffness.

    Does your Vett e use a roots type blower?

    No centrifugal - roots are good for boost at low RPM, but for higher RPM and temp control, I preferred the centrifugal. Because of the displacement of my engine, I get plenty of power right off the line, so thought it a good choice.