Do you believe Nostradamus could predict the future?

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    Feb 27, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    Been watching the History Channel about his life and prophecies...feel that enough circumstantial evidence exists to support him as both a prophet and a charlatan....
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    Feb 27, 2011 6:43 PM GMT
    can you predict future?
    exactly, neither can i .

    how can you predict uncertainty ?
    possibly he got into some form of transe and took his divagations very seriously.

    i read all his verses when a teenager with all kinds of crazy interpretations of them.
    its entertaining for sure. but that's where it ends.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    Sporty_g saidBeen watching the History Channel about his life and prophecies...feel that enough circumstantial evidence exists to support him as both a prophet and a charlatan....
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    If you are using the calendar they were using then, then I think 2012 has already passed.
    I regularly watched the History Channel too.
    Lately, History airs failed programming. It's now a bunch of "reality" shows, psuedo-science/-history docs, and paranormal. The channel has been promoting the extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH) of UFOs and, well, 2012... repeatedly. Not much history anymore.
    My advice is don't be too gullible. After all, the best sources to trust are peer-reviewed scientific journals.

    Here's some criticism of History.
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    Feb 27, 2011 8:38 PM GMT
    i think Nosty did a lot of high content weed...............Keithicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 27, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
    People who believe this crap drive me nuts...
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    Feb 27, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
    Still waiting for the blue turbaned anti-Christ. What year did he say the world would end - I think I recall watching it like 30 years ago and the end was inside these past 30 years
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    xassantex saidcan you predict future?
    exactly, neither can i .

    how can you predict uncertainty ?



    totally agree. icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    Nostradamus' writings were vague, which can lead to multiple interpretations.
    Never once did he explicitly predict anything.
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    Feb 28, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    It is the same vague, generalising bullsh*t that horroscope writers and spiritualist mediums use. People will believe anything if they are suggestible enough.
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    Feb 28, 2011 1:03 AM GMT
    Well I believe that some individuals can speculate what the future might be like. However, it is just a guide because will power could change such predictions. But youknow how human nature is, we tend to repeat our mistakes and it takes a natural distaster to unite everyone.
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    Feb 28, 2011 1:05 AM GMT
    He is as much a prophet as fortune cookies are.
    Make sure to be vague and you rambling drug-induced "visions" will be interpreted as prophecy in the future as well. As a good prophet, you already knew that.

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    Feb 28, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
    People see what they want to see if you look for something hard enough you will find it the number 23 anyoneicon_question.gif
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    Feb 28, 2011 1:15 AM GMT
    Sporty_g saidBeen watching the History Channel about his life and prophecies...feel that enough circumstantial evidence exists to support him as both a prophet and a charlatan....
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    Sure .... about as well as I or you can.

    The future is not known for any man to know - or woman for that matter.
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    Feb 28, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    anybody can make vague predictions that can easily be interpreted to cover anything. get a couple right (sort of) out of thousands and nobody cares you failed 99.99% of the time. that successful 0.01% and you're a fucking psychic.

    someone somewhere in the near future is going to have a ham sandwich for lunch tomorrow. BAM! PSYCHIC!
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    Feb 28, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
    no.
    it is not possible, thats why.
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    Feb 28, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    Yes.

    just as believeable as this douche



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    Mar 01, 2011 8:26 PM GMT
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    Mar 01, 2011 10:40 PM GMT
    No. He may have believed he could foretell the future, but he certainly made it vague enough that there's no way to confirm his predictions.
    I'm really disappointed in the History Channel, it's mostly crap stuff, not history.
  • TrentGrad

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    Mar 01, 2011 11:26 PM GMT
    Sporty_g saidBeen watching the History Channel about his life and prophecies...feel that enough circumstantial evidence exists to support him as both a prophet and a charlatan....
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    When I was younger, I thought he was THE master prophet...BUT the problem is, his quatraines are so vaguely composed that, if you want him to be a prophet, you can make him so just by the way you read his prophecies.

    Case in point: his alleged prediction of the Kennedy assassination...which when something like "the great man will be struck down in the day by a thunder bolt."

    I'm not a huge Penn & Teller fan, but I think they effectively debunked prophecies about the apocalypse:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj7pHXlTdWc&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFOSr0fkR1A&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nbBQn2xR2Q&feature=related
  • FRE0

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    Mar 01, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    Anyone can predict the future. The question is whether the prediction is correct.
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    Mar 01, 2011 11:56 PM GMT
    No, I don't believe that Nostradamus could have ever foreseen the future.
    Just like Edgar Cayce who predicted that Atlantis would rise out of the ocean by the year 2000.
    Or the Jeane Dixon predicted that a certain senator would become President of the USA. In fact was that he did not even stand as a candidate.
    Its the same with any newspaper or glossy magazine astrologer who picks out a written prediction purely at random from a lottery-style container, publish it, and it could work for you (not for anyone else).
    As for MuchMoreThanMuscle's post, which reminds me of something like Dega-vu, I had dreams in my sleep in the past, of being at certain locations. For example, throughout the early nineties I kept dreaming that I was in the USA, particularly New Orleans. In 1995 I actually visited and backpacked the USA, but didn't go anywhere near New Orleans, although I stopped there in 1978.
    Then sometime after this, I dreamt that I was standing on a hill overlooking the Israel coastine at Haifa. I wasn't alone in that dream. There was an unknown female with me. In the year 2000, I stood on Mount Carmel with my wife, then 18 weeks pregnant with our first daughter, looking down at the coastline of Haifa and its port.
    Prophecy? I very much doubt it. Rather the dreams were a direct result of a deep wish to travel during a period in my life when I was struggling to build up my domestic handyman business, and at times suffered hardship.
    When custom built up to a certain level by the mid nineties, then my dreams were fulfilled and I traveled.