THE LAYOFFS ARE COMING ...Scott Walker Will Send Out Notices Unless Anti-Union Bill Passes Tomorrow

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    Mar 03, 2011 11:46 PM GMT
    "Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Thursday that he will issue layoff notices to 1,500 state workers on Friday if his proposal forcing them to pay more for benefits and taking away nearly all their collective bargaining rights isn't passed by then. ... "


    I think this will so backfire on Republicans. People are gonna get nervous when they hear of others losing their jobs. It will be like the fed. govt shutdown by Newt Gingrich and his Congress.

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    Mar 04, 2011 12:03 AM GMT
    Yup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

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    Mar 04, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.
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    Mar 04, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
    Is Wisonsin typically a deep blue liberal state?

    I would think even if the governor survives a recall, he may not be re-elected, given the huge pro-labour presence that allegedly resides in WI.
  • musclmed

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    Mar 04, 2011 12:52 AM GMT
    Although important for some this has taken quite a bit of national news time. Away from important international news.

    The democrats should get over there temper tandrum and come back, face the music and vote.
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    Mar 04, 2011 12:53 AM GMT
    And it's their State Assembly (lower house) that's gonna get it first. They are elected every two years. So the Repub majority will be withdrawn from that house first and that will put the brakes on this reign of terror by the governor.
  • rioriz

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    Mar 04, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    Serious question guys....

    We all have our opinions but what IF, only what IF Walker gets his wish and the bill passes along with the rest of his budget and in a couple years Wisc. DOES see a dramatic turn in their deficit. Do people not vote him back due to total idealogical and revenge issues or will the public accept that his budget plan worked and give him another plan? What would you do?

    For myself who didnt vote for Obama I have always said I would re-elect him if I felt he handled the economy and foreign policies well. To me I rather swallow my pride and do what is best for the country than hold on to nimble beliefs.
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    Mar 04, 2011 1:27 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidIs Wisonsin typically a deep blue liberal state?

    I would think even if the governor survives a recall, he may not be re-elected, given the huge pro-labour presence that allegedly resides in WI.


    I don't know about deep blue. We had a Republican governor who was re-elected four times. 1987 - 2001. We also gave Obama one of his biggest margins of victory. WI consistently has one of the highest voter turn outs of any state. The Republican party is said to have originated here. We're an odd place. Home of the Progressive movement of the early 20th century and also home of Sen. Joe McCarthy who lead the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950's.
    So, to answer your question, I don't think WI is a deep blue liberal state.
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    Mar 04, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidIs Wisonsin typically a deep blue liberal state?

    I would think even if the governor survives a recall, he may not be re-elected, given the huge pro-labour presence that allegedly resides in WI.


    Also, Wisconsin passed the first gay rights legislation in the country in 1984. It had the backing of and was signed into law by a Republican governor. I feel our long history of bi-partisanship and compromise is why people here are being so vocal. We've come to expect being part of the process.
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    Mar 04, 2011 1:40 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.




    Thanks for your opinion.
    But, I'll put more faith in what the polls are saying.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/feb/28/wisconsin-poll-gov-walker-would-lose-rematch/

    Walker loses.
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    Mar 04, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidIs Wisonsin typically a deep blue liberal state?


    It's been mentioned a lot lately how Wisconsin is the birthplace of progressivism.

    I was looking at the map for the 2000, 2004, and 2008 Presidential elections, and the Democratic candidate won Wisconsin.

    Governor Scott Walker won with 52% of the votes and his Democratic opponent received 46%. I think the economy probably created some apathy among voters, and based on what Democrats are doing nationally, I think we're seeing a surge in conservative constituents voting in elections.

    Scott Walker won't get re-elected. It's one thing to ask the union for cuts, which they agreed to. But he asked them to give up collecting bargaining. That move just sealed his fate.
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    Mar 04, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    Hey, since I just learned this week how warm it is in Wisconsin with all the palm trees, I'll move there to cast my vote to impeach him.icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 2:39 AM GMT
    musclmed saidAlthough important for some this has taken quite a bit of national news time. Away from important international news.

    The democrats should get over there temper tandrum and come back, face the music and vote.


    Right.. Because the American media is so full of international news. icon_rolleyes.gif

    You have to watch the BBC just to find out what's happening in Europe let alone the rest of the world.
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    Mar 04, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.


    Oh, he's going to be recalled. It doesn't take that many signatures and the protesters already have more people on hand than it takes. But they'll recall the Republican senators first. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    mke_bt said
    alphatrigger saidIs Wisonsin typically a deep blue liberal state?

    I would think even if the governor survives a recall, he may not be re-elected, given the huge pro-labour presence that allegedly resides in WI.


    Also, Wisconsin passed the first gay rights legislation in the country in 1984. It had the backing of and was signed into law by a Republican governor. I feel our long history of bi-partisanship and compromise is why people here are being so vocal. We've come to expect being part of the process.
    Boy did you hit the nail squarely!

    ALL of my WI friends and aquaintances have echoed that statement!
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:48 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 said"Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Thursday that he will issue layoff notices to 1,500 state workers on Friday if his proposal forcing them to pay more for benefits and taking away nearly all their collective bargaining rights isn't passed by then. ... "


    I think this will so backfire on Republicans. People are gonna get nervous when they hear of others losing their jobs. It will be like the fed. govt shutdown by Newt Gingrich and his Congress.



    If he passes out layoff notices, he's going to see more than union protesters at the capital. He's going to be dealing with irrate parents. It's time he prioritize the state's budget and cut the wasteful spending and not education.
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:50 AM GMT
    LeanathleticDC saidHey, since I just learned this week how warm it is in Wisconsin with all the palm trees, I'll move there to cast my vote to impeach him.icon_lol.gif


    You better bring your snowboard. haha
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    Walker doesn't realize by laying off workers, he's really cutting his own throat because these layoffs will negatively affect the state's economy, which will cause the state to receive even less money in income taxes and sales taxes and they will be running another deficit next year.
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:09 AM GMT
    And if they lay 1,500 off, that's another 1,500 more unemployed who will be collecting state unemployment benefits.
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    jockgymboy saidWalker doesn't realize by laying off workers, he's really cutting his own throat because these layoffs will negatively affect the state's economy, which will cause the state to receive even less money in income taxes and sales taxes and they will be running another deficit next year.




    It clear that a huge part of the Republican party's national and local 2012 campaign strategy is to do whatever they can to wreck the economy and kill jobs - and then try to blame President Obama for the lack of progress on fixing the economy and creating jobs.

    It's obviously hurts Americans and is despicable unpatriotic and UN-American - but what makes it even worse is that the Repubs are also breaking their 2010 campaign promises to fix the economy and create jobs.

    Walker thought he could get away with it because he thought he'd have FOUR YEARS to try to smooth things over with voters.
    He didn't foresee that there would be a recall election so soon, and that his ass would be toast.
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.


    Well, he won't be recalled...yet! Indeed, he can't be recalled until 2012.

    But polls that suggest if the election was held today, he'd lose will collide with decisions like this one, and it will make the effort to recall him that much easier.

    Oh and mock, lets be sensible about this: Walker would've gotten the wage and benefit concessions he needed without trying to destroy the union, but instead he's decided that's he's going to destroy the union, regardless. He's now going to put families through hardships to punish the Democrats for behaving irresponsibly...and you think that's sensible???

    Gee, the wealthy really do live in their own world, don't they?

    Maybe it's time for the majority to bring the rich back down to earth!
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    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.


    Well, he won't be recalled...yet! Indeed, he can't be recalled until 2012.

    But polls that suggest if the election was held today, he'd lose will collide with decisions like this one, and it will make the effort to recall him that much easier.

    Oh and mock, lets be sensible about this: Walker would've gotten the wage and benefit concessions he needed without trying to destroy the union, but instead he's decided that's he's going to destroy the union, regardless. He's now going to put families through hardships to punish the Democrats for behaving irresponsibly...and you think that's sensible???

    Gee, the wealthy really do live in their own world, don't they?

    Maybe it's time for the majority to bring the rich back down to earth!




    I think that's a rallying cry that's going to gain strength in the years to come, as deep cuts are made to bring down the National Debt, and as the spending cuts start to hit people who are already struggling and barely getting by.
    And as Wall Street and the gilded rich continue to make out like thieves.
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    Mar 04, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Somebody saidMaybe it's time for the majority to bring the rich back down to earth!


    Sounds like some grade-A socialist dogma right there. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 10:48 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    GQjock saidYup ...... lets the deadline pass and he's a liar

    Lays off people he's the man that didn't compromise to help the working people of his State

    Do you smell Recall ? icon_cool.gif


    He won't be recalled. There are enough sensible like me now in this state who get out and make sure we vote. It might be close, but he won't be recalled.


    Oh I hate to disagree icon_wink.gif

    But if they manage to get him on a recall election ballot ?
    He's goin down .... many more people will vote in any election
    Against someone than for someone
    That's how people's minds work and the beauty of being recalled
    Already so soon after being elected? He's trailing behind the guy he lost to?
    .... and WAIT ... if he really starts laying people off?

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