Actual Voter Fraud by a Republican

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    Mar 04, 2011 3:26 PM GMT
    For those who keep pushing the tired meme that Acorn and other leftists groups have engaged in voter fraud (they haven't), this is what actual voter fraud looks like:

    Associated PressNDIANAPOLIS — Indiana's top elections official was indicted Thursday on voter fraud and other charges for allegedly listing his ex-wife's address as his own on voting and loan forms and serving on a town council when he was ineligible, a prosecutor said.

    The Hamilton County grand jury charged Republican Secretary of State Charlie White with seven felony counts in all, including three counts of voter fraud, two counts of perjury and one count each of theft and financial fraud, said John Dowd, one of two special prosecutors asked to investigate the matter.

    White, who would be forced to resign if convicted of any of the charges, surrendered to authorities at the Hamilton County Jail in Noblesville. A jail officer said White had been booked and released, but she had no information about bail.

    White issued a statement saying he is disappointed at the charges and believes the evidence will prove he didn't intentionally break the law. He said he will not step aside, despite calls for him to do so by Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels and the heads of the Indiana Republican and Democratic parties.

    "I will continue to do the job I was elected to do and carry on serving the needs of Hoosier taxpayers through the Secretary of State's office," White said.

    Prosecutors contend that White voted in last May's Republican primary after moving out of his ex-wife's home in Fishers and the town council district he represented. White has previously acknowledged the voting error, chalking it up to his busy schedule and new marriage.

    He is charged with theft for allegedly continuing to collect a salary from the town council after he was no longer eligible to serve on it. The financial fraud charge pertains to White's allegedly lying under oath about his address on loan documents, Dowd said.

    Dowd said the grand jury wasn't sure where White had actually resided, "but the grand jury didn't believe it was where he claimed."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/03/charlie-white-indiana-ele_n_831104.html
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:41 PM GMT
    hehehe...

    When the top election official is indicted on personal voter fraud, well, really... icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:42 PM GMT
    Slow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidFor those who keep pushing the tired meme that Acorn and other leftists groups have engaged in voter fraud (they haven't), this is what actual voter fraud looks like:

    To serious suggest Acorn has not been involved in voter fraud at all really takes away credibility.

    [url]http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-voter-fraud-hall-of-shame-milwaukee-voter-fraud-conviction-makes-acorn’s-2010-total-at-least-15/[/url]

    http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-22/politics/voter.fraud_1_voter-registration-acorn-workers-number-of-swing-states?_s=PMicon_razz.gifOLITICS

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html

    OK to be partisan, but to make that claim is really over the line.
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif

    YAWN because it's a Republican. Had it been a Democrat you would have been billboarding it all over this site. Give us a break. We know your pattern. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif



    I guess 192,000 people getting jobs means nothing to a Rightie.

    Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 192,000 in February, and the unemploymentrate was little changed at 8.9 percent.


    Righties want more stories of how bad off the millionaires are in this economy.


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    Mar 04, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif



    I guess 192,000 people getting jobs means nothing to a Rightie.

    Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 192,000 in February, and the unemploymentrate was little changed at 8.9 percent.


    Righties want more stories of how bad off the millionaires are in this economy.


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    Considering that most of the wealth in America is held by those millionaires, the American economy is driven by what those millionaires are able to do with it.
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidFor those who keep pushing the tired meme that Acorn and other leftists groups have engaged in voter fraud (they haven't), this is what actual voter fraud looks like:

    To serious suggest Acorn has not been involved in voter fraud at all really takes away credibility.

    [url]http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-voter-fraud-hall-of-shame-milwaukee-voter-fraud-conviction-makes-acorn%E2%80%99s-2010-total-at-least-15/" />OLITICS[/url]

    http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-22/politics/voter.fraud_1_voter-registration-acorn-workers-number-of-swing-states?_s=PMicon_razz.gifOLITICS

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html

    OK to be partisan, but to make that claim is really over the line.



    Let's see... socalfitness puts up articles of unelected people.

    I''ll put up the pic of theELECTED REPUBLICAN OFFICIAL WHO SWORE TO UP HOLD.....r-CHARLIE-WHITE-VOTER-FRAUD-CHARGES-larg
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    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidFor those who keep pushing the tired meme that Acorn and other leftists groups have engaged in voter fraud (they haven't), this is what actual voter fraud looks like:

    To serious suggest Acorn has not been involved in voter fraud at all really takes away credibility.

    [url]http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-voter-fraud-hall-of-shame-milwaukee-voter-fraud-conviction-makes-acorn%E2%80%99s-2010-total-at-least-15/" />OLITICS[/url]

    http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-22/politics/voter.fraud_1_voter-registration-acorn-workers-number-of-swing-states?_s=PMicon_razz.gifOLITICS

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html
    OK to be partisan, but to make that claim is really over the line.

    Let's see... socalfitness puts up articles of unelected people.

    I''ll put up the pic of theELECTED REPUBLICAN OFFICIAL WHO SWORE TO UP HOLD.....

    I was commenting about Christian's claim regarding ACORN, but obviously you are too damn stupid to have understood.
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    Mar 04, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
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    LeanathleticDC said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif



    I guess 192,000 people getting jobs means nothing to a Rightie.

    Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 192,000 in February, and the unemploymentrate was little changed at 8.9 percent.


    Righties want more stories of how bad off the millionaires are in this economy.


    monopoly-man.gif


    Considering that most of the wealth in America is held by those millionaires, the American economy is driven by what those millionaires are able to do with it.



    >>>>So when I get paid today and go out to lunch, and then out to dinner and then shopping tomorrow, and pick up my dry cleaning, and buy gas for my car ...............DOESN'T DRIVE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY?

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    Ah Yes, Rightie Smucks on Real Jock Defending mulitmillionaires.


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    Mar 04, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif

    YAWN because it's a Republican. Had it been a Democrat you would have been billboarding it all over this site. Give us a break. We know your pattern. icon_rolleyes.gif



    No -- YAWN because this is one of those here today, gone tomorrow NON-stories that you guys like to post and gloat about as if it's all that important in the grand scheme of things. Guess what -- It isn't! You just grasp at straws and cling to any morsel you can in some pathetic attempt at making mountains out of molehills. Kind of like the PUNK'd call on the Wisconsin Governor a few weeks ago. So unimportant in The Big Picture, but not to you guys. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    Of course it will show up - the point CJAZ was making was its durability as a major news story. You can google old news from 2004 that people have long forgotten, and it will still show up. jeez icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    A couple of things:

    Socal - Volunteers and certain employees of Acorn do appear to have engaged in voter registration fraud but that's not voter fraud. I.e. no one voted fraudulently as a result of their actions, whereas this Republican election official did vote fraudulently. Having participated in several voter registration campaigns, I can tell you that, yes, there are some people, particularly volunteers or those who are paid, that pad their lists.

    CAZJ - The prank call, which the right-wing media is desperate to minimize, is actually a very big story. It proves at least a willingness on Walker's part to collude with his campaign contributors, which is illegal. It also calls into question what semblance of ethics Walker may have.

    According to the recent WI attorney general:

    “There clearly are potential ethics violations, and there are potential election law violations and there are a lot of what look to me like labor law violations,” said Peg Lautenschlager, a Democrat who served as Wisconsin’s attorney general after serving for many years as a U.S. attorney. “I think that the ethics violations are something the (state) Government Accountability Board should look into because they are considerable. He is on tape talking with someone who he thinks is the funder of an independent political action committee to purchase advertising to benefit Republican legislators who are nervous about taking votes on legislation he sees as critical to his political success.”

    [url]http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/john_nichols/article_0657a7e5-a7ca-59df-abf0-3222b8c8ef98.html?nstrack=sid:334184|met:100300|cat:0|order:1[/url]
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    Of course it will show up - the point CJAZ was making was its durability as a major news story. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Times are a'changing, socal. Major news stories are often that ( I'll be overly clear here and say not ALL stories) solely because of the sensationalism and to sell the broadcaster (as in watch the ads they billed companies millions for) and capture viewers/readers/subscribers.

    Nowadays, I think real issues go viral online, and there's no stopping them. The media outlets are no longer in control to dictate what's an issue and what's a non-issue. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:21 PM GMT
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    hehehehe... "Here today, gone tomorrow" as CuriousJockAZ would like us to believe. Except the facts don't support his claims... again. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 04, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    Of course it will show up - the point CJAZ was making was its durability as a major news story. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Times are a'changing, socal. Major news stories are often that ( I'll be overly clear here and say not ALL stories) solely because of the sensationalism and to sell the broadcaster (as in watch the ads they billed companies millions for) and capture viewers/readers/subscribers.

    Nowadays, I think real issues go viral online, and there's no stopping them. The media outlets are no longer in control to dictate what's an issue and what's a non-issue. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug

    I'm quite aware of the times, and follow international media. As far as the major news outlets are concerned, whether it was ever a significant story or not, today it is not. Major news is what shapes public opinion.

    That is not to say that google hits could not also be an indicator, but I'm not aware of any studies that look at specific number of hits, say limited to recent timeframe, and translate that to the relative significance a story retains.
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    Mar 04, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...



    Compared to say googling Charlie Sheen in which you get 139,000,000, so I fail to see the point you are trying to make other than helping me make my point -- this is simply become a non-story. Of course you can get hits if you google it. I could Google John Bobbit gets his penis cut off and even though that happened over a decade ago it still get hits too -- doesn't mean it's a news story anymore.
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    Mar 04, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif

    YAWN because it's a Republican. Had it been a Democrat you would have been billboarding it all over this site. Give us a break. We know your pattern. icon_rolleyes.gif



    No -- YAWN because this is one of those here today, gone tomorrow NON-stories that you guys like to post and gloat about as if it's all that important in the grand scheme of things. Guess what -- It isn't! You just grasp at straws and cling to any morsel you can in some pathetic attempt at making mountains out of molehills. Kind of like the PUNK'd call on the Wisconsin Governor a few weeks ago. So unimportant in The Big Picture, but not to you guys. icon_rolleyes.gif


    OH, HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW?

    You mean how you Righties were saying the Wisconsin Walkout would be a non news story by Monday February 28th?

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    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    Of course it will show up - the point CJAZ was making was its durability as a major news story. You can google old news from 2004 that people have long forgotten, and it will still show up. jeez icon_rolleyes.gif



    I wonder how many Google Hits of socalfitness lying about the "clean" left after the Beck Loser Rally in August,,,,and the lying socalfitness said about the "angry" people at the Stewart rally?
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    Mar 04, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
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    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...



    Compared to say googling Charlie Sheen in which you get 139,000,000, so I fail to see the point you are trying to make other than helping me make my point -- this is simply become a non-story. Of course you can get hits if you google it. I could Google John Bobbit gets his penis cut off and even though that happened over a decade ago it still get hits too -- doesn't mean it's a news story anymore.



    You just proved why you're wrong.
    The John Bobbitt story may be old news, but that doesn't change the fact that we all remember the story.

    Saying that the "Walker got punked" story isn't in the news anymore doesn't change the fact that it was a huge story - especially online.
    People heard about the scandal and REMEMBER the story.
    That's the bottom line.
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    Mar 04, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ saidSlow news day I see --- YAWN --- icon_rolleyes.gif

    YAWN because it's a Republican. Had it been a Democrat you would have been billboarding it all over this site. Give us a break. We know your pattern. icon_rolleyes.gif



    No -- YAWN because this is one of those here today, gone tomorrow NON-stories that you guys like to post and gloat about as if it's all that important in the grand scheme of things. Guess what -- It isn't! You just grasp at straws and cling to any morsel you can in some pathetic attempt at making mountains out of molehills. Kind of like the PUNK'd call on the Wisconsin Governor a few weeks ago. So unimportant in The Big Picture, but not to you guys. icon_rolleyes.gif


    OH, HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW?

    You mean how you Righties were saying the Wisconsin Walkout would be a non news story by Monday February 28th?

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    Sorry, but you got this one wrong too. What was said was the "Punk'd Call" would be a non-story by Monday....and it was. In fact, I think it was a non-story by the weekend. I don't recall anyone saying that the walkout would be a non-story.
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    Mar 05, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSorry, but you got this one wrong too. What was said was the "Punk'd Call" would be a non-story by Monday....and it was. In fact, I think it was a non-story by the weekend. I don't recall anyone saying that the walkout would be a non-story.

    I corrected him before, but he doesn't want to or is unable to let go. We are dealing with someone who is best ignored.
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    Mar 05, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    meninlove said I just googled 'Walker punked' and got an instant 1,560,000 hits...

    Of course it will show up - the point CJAZ was making was its durability as a major news story. You can google old news from 2004 that people have long forgotten, and it will still show up. jeez icon_rolleyes.gif

    I wonder how many Google Hits of socalfitness lying about the "clean" left after the Beck Loser Rally in August,,,,and the lying socalfitness said about the "angry" people at the Stewart rally?

    I'll just correct you one last time and let go. I said the liberals, the type of people who attended the Stewart rally, tended to be angry people. People passionate about protest movements often are angry. I did not state anger was displayed at the actual event.
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    Mar 05, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
    It is not true that people taking part in a protest are angry. Think Gandhi, and MLK.