Navy seeks to discharge Sailor over sleep over

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    Mar 06, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030403022.html


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    Mar 06, 2011 1:29 PM GMT
    stpetefl67 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030403022.html


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    this shows the wonderful dishonesty that gays will still face in the military. Our useless military brass are going to have to be very vigilant about this. But I think they are busy developing a contingency plan for armed resistence when we invade Iraq.
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    Mar 06, 2011 1:55 PM GMT
    Something tells me that this will get the attention of the SecNav...this game wont fly.
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    Mar 06, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    Caslon17000 said
    stpetefl67 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030403022.html


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    this shows the wonderful dishonesty that gays will still face in the military. Our useless military brass are going to have to be very vigilant about this. But I think they are busy developing a contingency plan for armed resistence when we invade Iraq.
    You mean Iran? We are already in Iraq! icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 06, 2011 2:08 PM GMT
    What! everyone on the ship and in the barrack sleep in their boxer+ shirtless. This is just an excuse to kick people out.
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    Mar 06, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
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    Caslon17000 said
    stpetefl67 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030403022.html


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    this shows the wonderful dishonesty that gays will still face in the military. Our useless military brass are going to have to be very vigilant about this. But I think they are busy developing a contingency plan for armed resistence when we invade Iraq.
    You mean Iran? We are already in Iraq! icon_wink.gif

    No. I meant Iraq. The motherfuckers were so stupid and didn't have a contingency plan for resistence to the invasion. And I am sure they are stillso stupid that they are only making the plan NOW. Our military brass are the gold standard for stupidity...they are even dumber than heartland Americans!...if that's humanly possible.
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    Mar 06, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidOur military brass are the gold standard for stupidity...they are even dumber than heartland Americans!...if that's humanly possible.



    What an insult to our military. These are some of the bravest and most honorable men and women in the country --- People who have devoted their lives to serving their country and keeping us safe. Shame on you! You are hardly the arbiter of what defines "The Gold Standard of Stupidity", however you ARE the definition of "Bitter".
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    Mar 06, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon17000 saidOur military brass are the gold standard for stupidity...they are even dumber than heartland Americans!...if that's humanly possible.



    What an insult to our military. These are some of the bravest and most honorable men and women in the country --- People who have devoted their lives to serving their country and keeping us safe. Shame on you! You are hardly the arbiter of what defines "The Gold Standard of Stupidity", however you ARE the definition of "Bitter".


    Lets keep "heartland americans" out of it.....for sake of peace....
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    Mar 06, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
    As a serving member of the Australian Forces.... this behaviour DISGUSTS ME! and is wholly the reason for my discharge, this is very one eyed from Military Brass its 2011 for F***sake! icon_evil.gif
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    Mar 06, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    looking like military officials will remain homophobic until the last possible second.
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    Mar 06, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    I think the main giveaway here is not the sleep over or that they were in their boxers, but that they had been watching the Vampire Diaries together.... icon_razz.gif

    Still it's absurd how gay people in the US armed forces (or anywhere else they have stupid rules) have to face this kind of bigotry and risk of being fired, just for BEING what they are.
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    Mar 06, 2011 4:27 PM GMT
    judoguy saidI think the main giveaway here is not the sleep over or that they were in their boxers, but that they had been watching the Vampire Diaries together.... icon_razz.gif

    Still it's absurd how gay people in the US armed forces (or anywhere else they have stupid rules) have to face this kind of bigotry and risk of being fired, just for BEING what they are.


    I thought the same thing, as I've heard that starting deeply into Ian Somerhalder's eyes will give you an insatiable desire for peen. icon_smile.gif

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    Mar 06, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    This is absolutely the best thing that could happen....

    Two men, possibly straight, being disciplined for falling asleep...
    I think every reasonably inteligent person will be laughing and ashamed
    This could not have happened at a better time, ie while the government is reviewing the integration of gays



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    Caslon17000 saidOur military brass are the gold standard for stupidity...they are even dumber than heartland Americans!...if that's humanly possible.



    What an insult to our military. These are some of the bravest and most honorable men and women in the country --- People who have devoted their lives to serving their country and keeping us safe. Shame on you! You are hardly the arbiter of what defines "The Gold Standard of Stupidity", however you ARE the definition of "Bitter".

    Are you fucking crazy??? Our military brass care ONLY about their promotions, their pensions, and their perks vis-a-vis each other (like who gets to commute via helicopter around Washington...the Pentagon had to put limits on this one cuz it was just overwhelming the skies around here.) The brass will say and do anything that serves their promotions, pensions, and perks. They will tell the pres and congress anything to serve those ends. They have no honor or shame or loyalty to anything but the 3 Ps!

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    Mar 06, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    I do think it is an excuse to get around DADT by claiming some bogus charge against "possible" gay sailors. I am ex Navy and Army and str8 guys did a lot worse stuff than this and 95% it was laughed at or a quick warning if you went to far. To try and kick them out for this is pure bulls___!
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    Mar 06, 2011 6:40 PM GMT
    ...and then there was this little debacle...

    "Honors was relieved of his duty as captain of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise on Tuesday (Jan. 4) after several videos he filmed and showed to the ship's crew were made public. The videos, which feature simulated sex acts, anti-gay slurs and other attempts at crude comedy, were leaked to the Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk, Va., which published a story about them last weekend."


    You'll notice uniforms...


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    Mar 06, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    stpetefl67 said"I do think it is an excuse to get around DADT by claiming some bogus charge against "possible" gay sailors. I am ex Navy and Army and str8 guys did a lot worse stuff than this and 95% it was laughed at or a quick warning if you went to far. To try and kick them out for this is pure bulls___"!

    "Jones has been charged with a vague transgression: "willful failure to exhibit professional conduct" in his bachelor enlisted quarters".

    if people only knew what goes on in enlisted quarters- this should be fought legally to the death. just nonsense.

  • Anto

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    Mar 06, 2011 7:35 PM GMT
    Soon there will be an article about a soldier walking into the open showers and complaining about seeing 2-5 men together showering! Homosexuals are everywhere and must be expunged!
  • omgazn

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    Mar 06, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    Lol bootcamp. Open shower with 80 guys!
  • Anto

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    Mar 06, 2011 7:46 PM GMT
    omgazn saidLol bootcamp. Open shower with 80 guys!


    Were they all expelled for being gay?!
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    Mar 06, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    Let me guess- experimental crotch touching and naked pillow fights? Those are the best slumber parties.

    Seriously- I've slept in the same bed as another one of my gay friends, and nothing came from that. This is pure grade A bullshit right here.
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    Mar 06, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    Since when is two guys sleeping in the same bed scandalous... I've known straight guys to share a bed. Is the Navy really that homophobic?
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    Mar 06, 2011 8:37 PM GMT
    My real concern is that they were watching the Vampire Diaries
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    Mar 06, 2011 10:06 PM GMT
    it is total bs what happened to dadt being gone. were they naked asleep if not then what the hell is the problem.
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    Mar 06, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
    rug12ds saidMy real concern is that they were watching the Vampire Diaries


    Yeah that should be everyone's concern. Pick a damn decent movie to make the rest of us look better.icon_smile.gif