Kid Rock’s use of Confederate flag sparks NAACP boycott

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    Mar 07, 2011 2:35 AM GMT


    Mark Hicks, Detroit News staff writer


    Some NAACP supporters plan to boycott the Detroit arm's annual fundraiser over an honor for Kid Rock they say doesn't mesh with the civil rights group's goals.

    The rocker is set to receive the Detroit branch's Great Expectations Award at the annual dinner, which typically attracts about 10,000 people, on May 1 at Cobo Center.

    But Adolph Mongo, a longtime political consultant and head of Detroiters for Progress, said he and others will sit out over Kid Rock's use of the controversial Confederate flag during performances.

    "It's a slap in the face for anyone who fought for civil rights in this country," Mongo said Thursday. "It's a symbol of hatred and bigotry."

    NAACP officials defended the honor.

    "Kid Rock ... has consistently lifted up the Great Expectations of many persons … concerning the future of the city," Donnell R. White, interim executive director of the Detroit Branch NAACP, said in a statement.

    Kid Rock and his representatives couldn't be reached. But in a 2008 interview with the Guardian in Britain, he said the flag to him represents southern rock 'n' roll.


    *so what is everyone's thought on this*
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:06 AM GMT
    Kid Rock is still around? icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    xrichx saidKid Rock is still around? icon_lol.gif



    Lol yea doing small shows and stuff lol
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:29 AM GMT
    given the nature of his target audience; i am guessing KR won't worry too much about an NAACP boycott.
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    True but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?



    neither.
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:37 AM GMT
    rnch said
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?



    neither.



    what about the swastika
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
    rnch said
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?



    neither.


    It can be racist or a symbol of southern culture and history. It depends on who you are, your worldview, and the context of the situation. Life is not black or white. It is multiple shades of grey.
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone said
    rnch said
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?



    neither.



    what about the swastika


    Look up the history of the swastika symbol before Naziism. Naziism perverted the swastika
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:50 AM GMT
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?


    Yes, in essence it says "yay, slavery!"
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:54 AM GMT
    TheIStrat said
    rnch said
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?



    neither.


    It can be racist or a symbol of southern culture and history. It depends on who you are, your worldview, and the context of the situation. Life is not black or white. It is multiple shades of grey.



    thats kinda how i feel about it. Im from the deep south were it is normal to see it. but it also pisses alot of blk ppl off here and at times im like its juss a symbol which never killed anybody. To me it only has power because ppl give it power so it does'nt really bother me that much unless they are directly using it to promote hate. Now the swastika to me is a weird one because i never knew that it orignally meant good luck or good will. so now my views on it has changed. I have also noticed the way it is positioned is different in the nazi use but i am not really sure if this has any meaning though.
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:59 AM GMT
    Ermine said
    Fenix_Fukin_Stone saidTrue but what about the flag? Do u think its offensive or racist?


    Yes, in essence it says "yay, slavery!"



    i use to see it like that but being in the south some ppl use it to show southern pride and others use it to show hate. I use to get offended by it but not really that much. I do have white friends who love it and are coo but to them its more so a pride thing. But, most black ppl hate it because of it meaning in the war. But to me its a symbol that has no meaning until you react to it and give it power.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:06 AM GMT
    o but staying on topic i think its funny that he is just now being boycotted for the flag when he had it all over the stage and videos when he was mainstream. I honestly dont understand why now it's such a big problem now that he is kinda retired.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    Kid Rock offending someone? You're kidding?! ;)

    My take is that outrage is kind of wasted on Kid Rock, I mean...really? KR doesn't pass laws, control the economy or even have much impact on culture.
    Not that a reaction to what he does isn't warranted but save real outrage for where it counts.
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    Colbert_Nation saidKid Rock offending someone? You're kidding?! ;)

    My take is that outrage is kind of wasted on Kid Rock, I mean...really? KR doesn't pass laws, control the economy or even have much impact on culture.
    Not that a reaction to what he does isn't warranted but save real outrage for where it counts.


    yea i agree but i find it funny that he has always had the flag out lol he's not racist because didnt he date a black chick or something. But yea its nothing new i think the NAACP should get limbaugh (sp) and whats the other one that is always talking shit with the white hair.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:18 AM GMT
    Colbert_Nation saidKid Rock offending someone? You're kidding?! ;)

    My take is that outrage is kind of wasted on Kid Rock, I mean...really? KR doesn't pass laws, control the economy or even have much impact on culture.
    Not that a reaction to what he does isn't warranted but save real outrage for where it counts.


    agree
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:19 AM GMT
    I get where he's coming from, and I realize it doesn't represent the same thing to everyone...but flying it at an NAACP rally seems like asking for trouble, doesn't it?
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    p0haku saidI get where he's coming from, and I realize it doesn't represent the same thing to everyone...but flying it at an NAACP rally seems like asking for trouble, doesn't it?


    he has always flown it lol i mean to him he is like wtf lol. I mean they should of known it from his past history it's like inviting a skinhead over for dinner and getting made that he uses the N-word in front of you. I mean really though.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:37 AM GMT
    I think my issue with the confederate flag as a symbole of the South is that it has only recently become so. In fact it was desegregation that largely resurrected the confederate flag as a symbole of Southern pride. Georgia encorporated it into it's state flag in '56, I believe, and Mississippi at about the same time. Before the federal government began dismantaling segregation in the US, the use of the confederate flag was not widespread nor was it the symbole of the South that it has become.

    So while it may be a symbole of Southern white pride for many, and certainly it isn't a symbol of pride for any one other than Southern whites, it is not a race neutral symbole. And one that certainly owes it's currently popularity and status to the desegregation of the South.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:42 AM GMT
    The flag is offensive. Anyone who says it isn't has their head in the sand or since it's not an issue on their doorstep, they just don't give a fuck! However I don't think Kid Rock is racist but it is in bad taste but a lot of that goes around just read a response... or two.
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    Mar 07, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
    there are some confederates who are racists, however not all of them are like that, i met a guy in college and he was part of it, but he wasn't gay bashing or anything like that.
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    needleninja saidthere are some confederates who are racists, however not all of them are like that, i met a guy in college and he was part of it, but he wasn't gay bashing or anything like that.


    I have friends who are like that they say dumb shit because their parents are racist but they aren't for the most part. I do think it takes time to get to know the person because it might seem they are one way but in reality they are not.
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    Mar 07, 2011 6:38 AM GMT
    xrichx saidKid Rock is still around?


    I was actually thinking the same thing.