WSJ: Wisconsin Democrats May Return Soon

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    Mar 07, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
    I'm guessing that someone finally realized that they didn't need the supermajority to pass the collective bargaining provisions in the bill and that being tagged with the "flee bagger" label was a politically losing one?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704041504576185010446940614.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLETopStories

    Playing a game of political chicken, Democratic senators who fled Wisconsin to stymie restrictions on public-employee unions said Sunday they planned to come back from exile soon, betting that even though their return will allow the bill to pass, the curbs are so unpopular they'll taint the state's Republican governor and legislators.

    The Wisconsin standoff, which drew thousands of demonstrators to occupy the capitol in Madison for days at a time, has come to highlight efforts in other states to address budget problems in part by limiting the powers and benefits accorded public-sector unions.

    Sen. Mark Miller said he and his fellow Democrats intend to let the full Senate vote on Gov. Scott Walker's "budget-repair" bill, which includes the proposed limits on public unions' collective bargaining rights. The bill, which had been blocked because the missing Democrats were needed for the Senate to have enough members present to consider the bill, is expected to pass the Republican-controlled chamber.

    He said he thinks recent polls showing voter discontent with Mr. Walker over limits on bargaining rights have been "disastrous" for the governor and give Democrats more leverage to seek changes in a broader two-year budget bill Mr. Walker proposed Tuesday.

    But Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said Sunday night that the "budget repair" bill can not be amended at this point. But it's possible that over the next few weeks adjustments could be made to Mr. Walker's broader budget plan. "This bill will pass. The collective bargaining piece has to pass. If it doesn't the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.
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    Mar 07, 2011 12:22 PM GMT
    ......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

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    Mar 07, 2011 1:37 PM GMT
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.
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    Mar 07, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.


    There is no "liberal" mind. All of us come to our politics based on our backgrounds, upbringing, and, in some cases, our faiths.
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    Mar 07, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.


    There is no "liberal" mind. All of us come to our politics based on our backgrounds, upbringing, and, in some cases, our faiths.

    I agree completely in the case of most of us of both sides of the spectrum. But there are a few extremists, also on both sides, whose thought processes seem to be different.
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    Mar 07, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.
    Oh bullshit.
    That is SB'standard practise. His eyes lock on two or three words and blocks out the rest. riddler does it too. And they do it so often I came to the conclusion it was not honest careless reading, it is so frequent it seems deliberate in riddler's case; in SB's I think it is cognitive deficiencies typically seen on the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome spectrum (based on the shrieking hyper-reactivity)
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    Mar 07, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.


    takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description

    Now now socalfitness...
    Now that's the pot calling the kettle black
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    Mar 07, 2011 3:43 PM GMT

    Socal, you should look at this topic and read the WHOLE THING, especially Caslon's last line.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1419702

    Politics can be like a very complex form of chess.

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    Mar 07, 2011 4:41 PM GMT
    Upper_Canadian said
    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.
    Oh bullshit.
    That is SB'standard practise. His eyes lock on two or three words and blocks out the rest. riddler does it too. And they do it so often I came to the conclusion it was not honest careless reading, it is so frequent it seems deliberate in riddler's case; in SB's I think it is cognitive deficiencies typically seen on the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome spectrum (based on the shrieking hyper-reactivity)


    Right. That horse seems awfully high for you. Let me know when you have an opportunity to take off your ideological blinders and actually get to a point. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 07, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    Upper_Canadian said
    socalfitness said
    GQjock said......the governor's budget doesn't work," he said.

    No truer words have ever been spoken icon_wink.gif

    Perfect example how the liberal mind takes a quote out of context to create a totally false description of what the speaker said. At first glance, seems deliberate and petulant. But on further reflection, considering a liberal mind that also believes everything Michael Moore says, it may not be deliberate. It would be fascinating to do a profile on this type of mind to understand background and thought processes.
    Oh bullshit.
    That is SB'standard practise. His eyes lock on two or three words and blocks out the rest. riddler does it too. And they do it so often I came to the conclusion it was not honest careless reading, it is so frequent it seems deliberate in riddler's case; in SB's I think it is cognitive deficiencies typically seen on the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome spectrum (based on the shrieking hyper-reactivity)



    ah! that would explain sb jane's ....behavior....here.

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