White Party Palm Springs performer announced.... to go or not to go?

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    Mar 08, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
    So they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?
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    Mar 08, 2011 2:01 PM GMT
    Robyn SUCKS... Just follow @jefferysanker on Twitter, he keeps giving away tickets. DOn't pay to see Robyn.
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    Mar 08, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    Robyn is awesome, what are you talking about?
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    Mar 08, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
    lol fable, I think there's just not enough bass in her music.. it puts me to sleep. icon_neutral.gif
  • Vaughn

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    Mar 08, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    Circuit queen. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 08, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    PS Go to Coachella.
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    Mar 08, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    i really need to check out the white party someday. hehe
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    Mar 08, 2011 5:39 PM GMT
    Vaughn saidPS Go to Coachella.
    hmmm only if you promise to meet me there icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 08, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
    irishmobster said

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    Since you've never been before. . . I say go! It's really a lot of fun. . . and the Closing Party is dark, but it's dark like it is in any club or bar, it's not like it's pitch black where you can't see, (Ie, Black Party Expo in NYC).
  • Jinky

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    Mar 12, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    At $90 a ticket, the closing party is a complete rip-off. It's in a hotel ballroom, with a few lights erected and a cheap, crappy sound system - hardly the most conducive place for a "major" dance event. Go to Coachella instead!
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    Mar 13, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    irishmobster saidSo they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    Here's a thought. If you go to a party with dance music put on by STRAIGHT people you have a much better line up for a lower cost. This $130 is ass-raping expensive (no pun intended ....unless...well, you plan on getting raped). There's something in LA called Monster Massive, or Electric Daisy Carnival, which brings in world-recognized talent that's CURRENTLY hot. Not some washed over fag-loving diva. Oh and the cost is half as much to see likw 20+ DJs spin. It's not gay, but definitely gay friendly.

    Don't go. Or better yet, go to the pool parties there and hang out at the local clubs at night. You'll save money and brain cells.
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    Mar 16, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
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    irishmobster saidSo they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    Here's a thought. If you go to a party with dance music put on by STRAIGHT people you have a much better line up for a lower cost. This $130 is ass-raping expensive (no pun intended ....unless...well, you plan on getting raped). There's something in LA called Monster Massive, or Electric Daisy Carnival, which brings in world-recognized talent that's CURRENTLY hot. Not some washed over fag-loving diva. Oh and the cost is half as much to see likw 20+ DJs spin. It's not gay, but definitely gay friendly.

    Don't go. Or better yet, go to the pool parties there and hang out at the local clubs at night. You'll save money and brain cells.


    Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right.
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    Mar 16, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
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    JAKEBENSON said
    irishmobster saidSo they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    Here's a thought. If you go to a party with dance music put on by STRAIGHT people you have a much better line up for a lower cost. This $130 is ass-raping expensive (no pun intended ....unless...well, you plan on getting raped). There's something in LA called Monster Massive, or Electric Daisy Carnival, which brings in world-recognized talent that's CURRENTLY hot. Not some washed over fag-loving diva. Oh and the cost is half as much to see likw 20+ DJs spin. It's not gay, but definitely gay friendly.

    Don't go. Or better yet, go to the pool parties there and hang out at the local clubs at night. You'll save money and brain cells.


    Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right.


    wow, thats a shit load of assumptions.

    I would go. sounds like a lot of fun to me!
  • Jinky

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    Mar 16, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
    And if you need further proof that WP is a rip-off, tickets to Ultra in Miami cost $220. Early bird tickets were only $120 ! That's for 3 full days with this line-up:phase3-small.jpg
  • Jinky

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    Mar 16, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said
    prepaul77 said

    Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right.


    wow, thats a shit load of assumptions.

    I would go. sounds like a lot of fun to me!


    Since when is 2 considered "a shitload"? I'm assuming Sanker is right when he says he spends $1 million, but it could be less. I'm assuming everyone is paying $100 for the t-dance, but we know that many pay the $125 single ticket price. Either way I'm being very conservative.
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    Mar 16, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    Robyn puts on a high-energy show and is at the height of her career. What would make the White Party suck is watching her surrounded by people who hardly know who she is and don't appreciate! Could have seen her in an intimate venue for a lot cheaper though.
  • Halcyonz

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    Mar 16, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    prepaul77 saidAnd if you need further proof that WP is a rip-off, tickets to Ultra in Miami cost $220. Early bird tickets were only $120 ! That's for 3 full days with this line-up:phase3-small.jpg


    . . . A lot of the appeal to these circuit parties is that they are exclusively gay. So you are pretty much paying for a premium compared to the Ultra in Miami which is a mixed crowd. I wish tickets were $120 to things like WP. . . I paid $450 for the VIP pass =P Shrug. Once a year and I'm not exactly poor. The circuit is definitely not for those where money is currently an issue in their lives.

    I'm also pretty sure most gays in this type of scene know exactly who Robyn is lol. I've heard this song played so many damn times at various parties:

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    AvadaKedavra said
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    Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right.


    wow, thats a shit load of assumptions.

    I would go. sounds like a lot of fun to me!


    Since when is 2 considered "a shitload"? I'm assuming Sanker is right when he says he spends $1 million, but it could be less. I'm assuming everyone is paying $100 for the t-dance, but we know that many pay the $125 single ticket price. Either way I'm being very conservative.


    There are ultimately only two variables here, revenue and expenses. You made assumptions for both. That is pretty much a shit load. Reference your numbers.
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    Mar 16, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    irishmobster saidSo they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    lol
    Robyn is a step of from Adam Lambert and Nicole Schfkafjadlkakjf (whatever her last name is)

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    Mar 16, 2011 9:27 PM GMT
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    Mar 16, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
    kandsk saidRobyn puts on a high-energy show and is at the height of her career. What would make the White Party suck is watching her surrounded by people who hardly know who she is and don't appreciate! Could have seen her in an intimate venue for a lot cheaper though.


    This is probably the perfect audience for her. In America, europop is generally not that popular outside of the gay audience. Plus, it is not like she is underground and has almost no name recognition.
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
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    prepaul77 saidAnd if you need further proof that WP is a rip-off, tickets to Ultra in Miami cost $220. Early bird tickets were only $120 !


    . . . A lot of the appeal to these circuit parties is that they are exclusively gay. So you are pretty much paying for a premium compared to the Ultra in Miami which is a mixed crowd. I wish tickets were $120 to things like WP. . . I paid $450 for the VIP pass =P Shrug. Once a year and I'm not exactly poor. The circuit is definitely not for those where money is currently an issue in their lives.

    I'm also pretty sure most gays in this type of scene know exactly who Robyn is lol. I've heard this song played so many damn times at various parties:



    I agree that the vast majority of the WP attendees won't go to a mixed event like Ultra or Coachella, but many of them do have misconceptions about the crowds. These events are way more gay friendly than people realize and if we want to be accepted by society, we need to venture outside the gay bubble and mingle with a straight crowd. You can't complain about being a second class citizen if you won't let straight people see that we're the same as everyone else.

    I think the other reason the boys rush to events like WP but are reluctant to go to something like Ultra, is not because the latter is str8, but because the former is all about sex, hot men, and more sex. Str8 events have less appeal because they're about the music.
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    Mar 17, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
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    Halcyonz said
    prepaul77 saidAnd if you need further proof that WP is a rip-off, tickets to Ultra in Miami cost $220. Early bird tickets were only $120 !



    I agree that the vast majority of the WP attendees won't go to a mixed event like Ultra or Coachella, but many of them do have misconceptions about the crowds. These events are way more gay friendly than people realize and if we want to be accepted by society, we need to venture outside the gay bubble and mingle with a straight crowd. You can't complain about being a second class citizen if you won't let straight people see that we're the same as everyone else.

    I think the other reason the boys rush to events like WP but are reluctant to go to something like Ultra, is not because the latter is str8, but because the former is all about sex, hot men, and more sex. Str8 events have less appeal because they're about the music.


    Hrm. Seems like you have quite a jaded view towards the whole thing. I don't go to mixed straight/gay events normally, I prefer the exclusivity of the gay crowd. I don't have any misconceptions about any of it. Pretty sure a lot of people do not have any misconceptions as well. Also, obviously it's not really a matter of whether it's gay friendly or not. . . I'd be willing to bet a lot of straight people would not go to an event where thousands of gay guys are dancing half naked. Just saying.

    I also don't give a damn personally whether *I* am accepted by society. I've never felt nor been perceived as a second class citizen either (except one time I was in GA and felt some racism because of being Asian) My life is great just as it is. . . if you are concerned, you should be more involved in activism and such and look into that.

    Your last comment is borderline bigotry. . . so no reason to justify any of it
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    Mar 17, 2011 7:25 AM GMT
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    "Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right. "

    I have lived in Palm Springs for nearly 12 years and I find it VERY offensive that the hoopla and moolah that IS this rip-off party benefits NO ONE except Jeffrey "SKANKer".
    I have many friends who come to Palm Springs over the weekend of this party...and don't even bother with the party. The draw of hot men is far better entertainment than who they usually have as their "headline performer"...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    irishmobster saidSo they just announced the headline performer for White Party 2011 in Palm Springs... and it's Robyn. Blah. I guess she's good but I was kind of expecting something more exciting... like maybe Adam Lambert or Nicole Scherzinger (I hate her but she has some great new dance tracks coming out soon). And $130 is kind of a lot for one night with a performer I'm kinda blah about. But it's the WHITE PARTY.... rawrrrrr... what to do?

    I'm kind of more excited about Wynter Gordon and Natalia Kills at the Closing Party, but I've never been to that before and some of my friends said it's kind of dark and depressing. Have any of you been? Thoughts?


    Here's a thought. If you go to a party with dance music put on by STRAIGHT people you have a much better line up for a lower cost. This $130 is ass-raping expensive (no pun intended ....unless...well, you plan on getting raped). There's something in LA called Monster Massive, or Electric Daisy Carnival, which brings in world-recognized talent that's CURRENTLY hot. Not some washed over fag-loving diva. Oh and the cost is half as much to see likw 20+ DJs spin. It's not gay, but definitely gay friendly.

    Don't go. Or better yet, go to the pool parties there and hang out at the local clubs at night. You'll save money and brain cells.


    Ass-raping is right. I've read online somewhere from one of his reps that Jeffrey Sanker spends $1 million dollars on the whole weekend, which is hard to believe, but for argument's sake, let's assume that's right. He also claims that the t-dance alone attracts 10,000 men. Single tickets for the t-dance are $125, but let's say that everyone there is paying an average of $100 per ticket - that's $1 million in revenue right there and Sanker has broken even after one event. Everything else is gravy. So with the main event costing $130, closing party costing $90, 30c bottles of water costing $5, plus sponsor dollars, and local city kickbacks for all the business WP brings to the city, it doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that Sanker pockets over $1 million in profit for that weekend; more than 100% return on his investment. And nowhere on his site does he claim to give a penny of that to charity or LGBT causes. Again - ass-raping is right.


    You are amazing.