THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO DRILL FOR OUR OWN OIL NOW!!

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    Mar 08, 2011 7:24 PM GMT
    WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE
    You might want to pass this on. Take a look at WALMART.

    WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
    Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though many grumbled about it.
    It might even have been good for us!

    Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products?
    In addition, they are gouging us on oil prices. Shouldn't we return the favor?
    Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce the import/export deficit?
    An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS.
    Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia
    Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
    Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank,
    I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead.
    The following gas companies import Middle Eastern oil
    Shell...................................... 205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco..................... 144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon /Mobil........................ 130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway............. 117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco................................. 62,231,000 barrels
    And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela who’s Dictator Hugo Chavez hates America and openly avows our economic destruction!
    We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!

    The U.S. . Currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC.
    If you do the math at $100 per b arrel, that's over $550 million PER DAY
    $200 BILLION per year! handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!
    It won't stop here - oil prices could go to $200 a barrel or higher if we keep buying their product.

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil
    Sunoco.........................0 barrels
    Conoco........................0 barrels
    Sinclair........................0 barrels
    BP/Phillips..................0 barrels
    Hess.............................0 barrels
    ARC0............................0 barrels ********
    Maverick.....................0 barrels ********
    Flying J.......................0 barrels
    Valero..........................0 barrels********
    Murphy Oil USA *.......0 barrels
    *Sold at Wal-Mart
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    Mar 08, 2011 8:00 PM GMT
    Another thing you can do is trade your vehicle in for a Flexible Fuel Vehicle, if you don't already have one, so you can use E-85. Renew manufactures this fuel in Oshkosh, WI, but is available in most major cities across the US and it is an 85% ethanol blend made from corn right here in America, so you are helping America's farmers. Not only is it a cleaner burning fuel, but the retail cost of it is considerably less (.70/gallon less and the savings will be even more as the cost of regular unleaded continues to rise). By using this fuel instead of unleaded gasoline, you will also help reduce our reliance on foreign oil and reduce emissions. We can stop this madness with foreign oil one gallon at a time.
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    Mar 08, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
    "THIS is why we need to drill for our own oil."

    THE oil DRILLED in America goes on the OPEN MARKET....to the highest bidder....

    Sweden......Thailand......Netherlands....USA....


    Is American Gov't going to tell who Oil companies can only sell to?


    Don't................Think..............So.


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    Mar 08, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    If the US government were serious about energy independence, off the top of my head they would do the following:

    (1) Repeal the ethanol requirement (the cost to produce probably generates more greenhouse gases than burning oil and the product damages cars)

    (2) Make it easier for lng/cng conversions (reduce regulations or at least make them smarter). Currently the cost is in the range of 20K for the license and 3k/conversion if memory serves whereas in some countries in South America, the conversion costs are as little as $500. Currently natural gas prices are less than half that per equivalent unit of energy of petroleum. What this means is that you would be paying less than half the cost (and even considerably less than that after you factor in the taxes) to travel the same distance on natural gas.

    (3) Cease the obstruction of permitting for deep sea drilling.

    (4) Stop subsidies and playing favorites of technologies - a favorite form of corporate welfare by politicians of all stripes.

    The problem is that politicians aren't serious either that or they kow tow to environmental extremism over the needs of every day consumers because of their more influential lobbies.
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    Mar 08, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    Ethanol accomplishes nothing, as studies have shown. It has less energy than pure gasoline, so you get fewer miles-per-gallon in your car. Meaning you have to burn more of it to travel the same distance.

    So that you still end up consuming as much Middle East oil as you did before, except now it's blended with ethanol from corn. What you have done is subsidize Kansas farmers growing corn, as former Senate Majority Leader Robert Dole from Kansas intended.

    The unintended consequence? The price of corn goes up, because much of it is being diverted to ethanol. So your Kellogg's corn flakes cost more, and everything else made from corn, like corn oils and so forth.

    And farmers start shifting their fields to growing more corn for ethanol, and so there's less of other crops, like wheat. For which you will now pay more, too, based on the law of supply & demand.

    Yeah, ethanol is a great solution. Moving money from the left pocket into the right. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 08, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    "Americans, who hate to be told they must change, roundly condemned Jimmy Carter’s memorable “Crisis of Confidence” speech of July 15, 1979.

    In it, Carter outlined a program for achieving energy independence: “On the battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our common destiny.”



    "In his July 1979 speech, he was right when he said, “I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 — never.


    Carter was Mocked and Maligned by Republicans.....we know what happened.

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    Mar 08, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    LeanathleticDC said"Americans, who hate to be told they must change, roundly condemned Jimmy Carter’s memorable “Crisis of Confidence” speech of July 15, 1979.

    In it, Carter outlined a program for achieving energy independence: “On the battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our common destiny.”



    "n his July 1979 speech, he was right when he said, “I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 — never.


    Mocked and maligned Republicans.....we know what happened.



    Lol - yeah go with that strategy - I'm sure you also think Carter was a great President. Too bad even Presidents can't defy the laws of economics. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 08, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    LeanathleticDC said"Americans, who hate to be told they must change, roundly condemned Jimmy Carter’s memorable “Crisis of Confidence” speech of July 15, 1979.

    In it, Carter outlined a program for achieving energy independence: “On the battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our common destiny.”



    "n his July 1979 speech, he was right when he said, “I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 — never.


    Mocked and maligned Republicans.....we know what happened.



    Lol - yeah go with that strategy - I'm sure you also think Carter was a great President. Too bad even Presidents can't defy the laws of economics. icon_rolleyes.gif



    We don't know...............REGAN NEVER gave it a chance.

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    Mar 08, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    LeanathleticDC said"THIS is why we need to drill for our own oil."

    THE oil DRILLED in America goes on the OPEN MARKET....to the highest bidder....

    Sweden......Thailand......Netherlands....USA....


    Is American Gov't going to tell who Oil companies can only sell to?


    Don't................Think..............So.




    Here's an economic principle:

    The more supply, the lower the price.

    Think about it.





    Here's an economic principle:
    Aggressively promote the use of alternate, less polluting fuels, and we can tell foreign oil producers to take their oil and shove it.
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    Mar 08, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidHere's an economic principle:
    Aggressively promote the use of alternate, less polluting fuels, and we can tell foreign oil producers to take their oil and shove it.


    Why isn't the US government/Obama Administration reducing the barriers to building out natural gas infrastructure and natural gas conversions given its now massive abundance and how cheap it is?
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    Mar 08, 2011 10:46 PM GMT
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    LeanathleticDC saidWe don't know...............REGAN NEVER gave it a chance.




    Who's REGAN?


    Don't you remember? She was famous for her Exorcist head spin.

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    Mar 09, 2011 12:30 AM GMT
    jockgymboy saidWHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE
    You might want to pass this on. Take a look at WALMART.

    WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
    Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though many grumbled about it.
    It might even have been good for us!

    Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products?
    In addition, they are gouging us on oil prices. Shouldn't we return the favor?
    GO oil is imported from Venezuela who’s Dictator Hugo Chavez hates America and openly avows our economic destruction!
    We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!

    The U.S. . Currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC.
    If you do the math at $100 per b arrel, that's over $550 million PER DAY
    $200 BILLION per year! handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!
    It won't stop here - oil prices could go to $200 a barrel or higher if we keep buying their product.

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil
    Sunoco.........................0 barrels
    Conoco........................0 barrels
    Sinclair........................0 barrels
    BP/Phillips..................0 barrels
    Hess.............................0 barrels
    ARC0............................0 barrels ********
    Maverick.....................0 barrels ********
    Flying J.......................0 barrels
    Valero..........................0 barrels********
    Murphy Oil USA *.......0 barrels
    *Sold at Wal-Mart


    You got this from an email chain letter that has been debunked as basically non factual. Read up on it


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    Mar 09, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    gasoline made from corn is not a viable alternative. The amount of air polluting coal it takes to make one gallon of gas makes it moot. This was one of GW's jump before advice faux pas
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    Mar 09, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidEthanol accomplishes nothing, as studies have shown. It has less energy than pure gasoline, so you get fewer miles-per-gallon in your car. Meaning you have to burn more of it to travel the same distance.

    So that you still end up consuming as much Middle East oil as you did before, except now it's blended with ethanol from corn. What you have done is subsidize Kansas farmers growing corn, as former Senate Majority Leader Robert Dole from Kansas intended.

    The unintended consequence? The price of corn goes up, because much of it is being diverted to ethanol. So your Kellogg's corn flakes cost more, and everything else made from corn, like corn oils and so forth.

    And farmers start shifting their fields to growing more corn for ethanol, and so there's less of other crops, like wheat. For which you will now pay more, too, based on the law of supply & demand.

    Yeah, ethanol is a great solution. Moving money from the left pocket into the right. icon_razz.gif


    The reduced gas mileage amounts to only about 2 mpg, so at .70/gal less (and the savings will become even greater as gas prices continue to rise, there is a considerable savings over the course of a year from using E-85. Unleaded fuel already has 10% ethanol in it.