New Priorities; get cut: School first gym second

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    Mar 10, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
    For a few months gym time was seriously cutting into my school and job time. The eating was becoming a problem too because of how expensive and hard to maintain it is while my schedule is sort of hectic. I was trying to bulk up and was eating more calories. Mostly in the form of broccoli, brown rice, peanut butter sandwiches, protein shakes/bars, etc...

    But now, I don't think it's the best time for bulking up. I'm in the process of finding a new job and don't have a lot of disposable income so I decided I'll just focusing on trying to get as shredded as possible for right now.

    Now, I know the old "do a lot of reps with low weight" thing is always the advice people give to get ripped, but has anyone had a lot of experience with this method and gotten results here?

    Also, part of the allure of focusing on muscle definition instead of bulk is that I'm guessing the diet is less maintenance heavy. I'm not sure though, I basically just intuited that. I don't want to lose the mass I already have worked for, but just contour it some.

    Any thoughts, comments, advice?

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    Mar 10, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
    pelicanfly said

    Also, part of the allure of focusing on muscle definition instead of bulk is that I'm guessing the diet is less maintenance heavy.



    It's more. You'll need to discipline yourself to each much more often and in generally precise amounts to systematically drop body fat, which is all that added definition is.
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    Mar 10, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    pelicanfly said

    Also, part of the allure of focusing on muscle definition instead of bulk is that I'm guessing the diet is less maintenance heavy.



    It's more. You'll need to discipline yourself to each much more often and in generally precise amounts to systematically drop body fat, which is all that added definition is.


    Do you mind explaining that a bit more?
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    Mar 10, 2011 5:49 AM GMT
    Well, he is basically saying, cutting is even harder than bulking... It is the strictest diet imaginable. That is about all I can say to that. Just lift, go to the gym, be healthy, keep the diet somewhat clean, veggies, fruit, chicken, sweet potatoes etc… Less Carbs like pasta, bread, etc… that is my opinion. Read everything you can on researching this topic.
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    Mar 10, 2011 6:41 AM GMT
    I don't think you should do the bulk/cut thing. You're already in great shape. I think you should focus more on gradually adding lean muscle mass. That way you won't spend so much time/money shoveling down empty calories, only to cut it all away later. It's very possible to gain lean mass without having to "bulk".
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    Mar 10, 2011 1:24 PM GMT
    I was waiting for you to talk about the time you spend with school... or at least something about your schooling and work, but you prioritized the disucssion about what you're doing with your workouts.

    I'd like to know how much time you practically have to work out? During an average day, how much time do you spend at school or a job and whats left for your workout. I think based on that I'd certainly give you input on all involved.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Mar 10, 2011 1:29 PM GMT
    actually, i say do a circuit training. in addition, if you live on campus you can eat all those foods at the school cafeteria?
  • neosyllogy

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    Mar 10, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    pelicanfly said
    Ariodante said
    pelicanfly said

    Also, part of the allure of focusing on muscle definition instead of bulk is that I'm guessing the diet is less maintenance heavy.



    It's more. You'll need to discipline yourself to each much more often and in generally precise amounts to systematically drop body fat, which is all that added definition is.


    Do you mind explaining that a bit more?


    When you're "cutting", you're trying to specifically restrict calories so your body feeds off of fat, but does NOT feed off of muscle (or rather, bias that ratio as best as possible).

    Cutting isn't more intense than strict clean bulking really (some people have an easier time eating or restricting, of course), but much more intense than dirty bulking.

    Anyway, go to bodybuilding.com and look up articles on nutrition of cutting.
    General hint: you'll want a higher % of protein and you'll want it very frequently available to prevent muscle breakdown. Eating frequently. Look into slow digesting proteins like casein to help out.

    Edit: I remember you. You don't look like you have that much cutting to do, BTW. If you don't even know what's involved with a cutting diet I have a hard time imagining you've done almost any quality research on exercise - no wonder you have problems adding mass...icon_neutral.gif Anyway, focus on school.
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    Mar 10, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidI was waiting for you to talk about the time you spend with school... or at least something about your schooling and work, but you prioritized the disucssion about what you're doing with your workouts.

    I'd like to know how much time you practically have to work out? During an average day, how much time do you spend at school or a job and whats left for your workout. I think based on that I'd certainly give you input on all involved.


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    Monday: 4 hours
    Tuesday: 1-3 hours
    Wed: 7 hours (with a 3 hours break in-between the 4th and 5th hour)
    Thursday: 70 min class. Rest of the day is free (my favorite day, although if my job comes through I will turn this into a work day)
    Friday: 1 hour and the rest of the day is free.
    I usually go out to the clubs with my boyfriend and friends on friday night.
    Note*: This schedule is only class times. Not the hours and hours I have to spend studying.

    Ideally, Saturday and Sunday would be the days that I would cook my meals for the following week but the weekends are the only time I have to see my boyfriend and he lives 30 minutes away. I've tried lugging all my food there.. but it's just so inconvenient. Unfortunately, he only comes to my place every so often because he works from home.

    After typing this I think I can say that it looks like I do have plenty of time to cook my meals on the weekends and more than enough time to workout for at least an hour during the week. Previously I was doing the realjock muscle building workout which was taking me sometimes over 2 hours to do. Ridiculous.
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    Mar 10, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    You could work out 3 times a week and still eat a lot to bulk up.
    And just buy protein powder and do shakes (buy a big thing so its not expensive) and a lot of tuna sandwiches (best protein student meal = 2 tuna sandwich = 2$ icon_razz.gif with some veggies.
    You can still eat a lot without costing too much!!! Just combine with shakes.
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    Mar 11, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    This is not in response to the OP, but I first read the title of this thread without noticing the semicolon and thought it would be about state or federal budget cuts.
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