The embarrassments of Obama

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    Mar 11, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
    It's a longish and complicated feature article. But well worth the reading, IMHO.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/the-embarrassments-of-emp_b_834190.html
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    Mar 11, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
    Interesting take on how Obama reacts to crises.

  • Cajun_One

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    Mar 13, 2011 9:27 AM GMT
    He's a community organizer, a nobody who promised hope and change plus he got all the Black vote because they back their own - he's a nobody without a chance of being reelected, thank God! Bring back Ronald Reagan!!!!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 13, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    Cajun_One said Bring back Ronald Reagan!!!!



    I think I'm going to puke all over my breakfast.

    I think most at this moment feel he has a better than even chance of being re-elected.. especially considering the choices on the other side.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 13, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    I agree that there is a good chance that Obama will not be re-elected, but I would not be disappointed if he is. I think he is really trying to do what is best for the country in a thankless job and at a difficult time. Why anyone would want to be President is a mystery. It's one constant "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't" exercise in frustration because half the people will like you, the other half loathe you, regardless of what you do.

    A perfect example of this is Obama's response to Egypt. He tried to stay out of it best he could, and then there are those who scream he didn't do enough. Now with the Libya crisis, he is taking a firm yet measured response, and people are screaming we should be going in and enforce a "No Fly Zone". About the time we do that -- which of course the U.S. will be forced to lead -- if, God forbid, things go wrong he'll be criticized for once again leading the U.S. into places they have no business being. You seemingly can't win as President. Bush faced the same things (as do all Presidents). Had things gone right in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush may well have left office a hero. Everyone is an expert when it comes to "Monday Morning Quarterbacking", but a President has to make decisions based on the information he has and what he has to work with at any given time, and he is only human. Things don't always go right.
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    Mar 13, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Cajun_One saidHe's a community organizer, a nobody who promised hope and change plus he got all the Black vote because they back their own - he's a nobody without a chance of being reelected, thank God! Bring back Ronald Reagan!!!!

    Don't harm yourself when he's re-elected in 2012.
    As he will be.

    I would suggest keeping your millions in a diversified portfolio, consistent with your own goals. Don't put too much into betting on Obama being reelected. Not knowing the opposition is one uncertainty, but the odds are increasing that he will lose, and it would be a shame to see that portfolio reduced. Last time, the opposition was not agile and refused to even campaign on Obama's thin history and his past associations. He had no record, and the hope and change mantras worked with some. But now he has a record to run on, and he has created much fodder to run against. And anti-Obama humor before was mostly non-existent because of perceived political incorrectness. The main target for ridicule was Palin. This time it will be vastly different. The satire and mocking will go viral. It already has, but tame so far. I think the candidates will be cordial, but the discourse will be brutal. So don't put too much of your hard-earned money on him.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 13, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI agree that there is a good chance that Obama will not be re-elected, but I would not be disappointed if he is. I think he is really trying to do what is best for the country in a thankless job and at a difficult time. .



    Excellent commentary from someone who has a different political view than mine.. but whose opinion I value and respect. Thanks for your honesty and sincerity and much of what you said above I agree with, um, with the exception that I do think he will be re-elected.
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    Mar 13, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said ... Now with the Libya crisis, he is taking a firm yet measured response, and people are screaming we should be going in and enforce a "No Fly Zone". About the time we do that -- which of course the U.S. will be forced to lead -- if, God forbid, things go wrong he'll be criticized for once again leading the U.S. into places they have no business being. You seemingly can't win as President....

    Three different opinions from yesterday's Wall Street Journal take a very contrasting position to you here.

    Following excerpt from the first link:

    Whatever else one might say about President Obama's Libya policy, it has succeeded brilliantly in achieving its oft-stated goal of not leading the world. No one can any longer doubt the U.S. determination not to act before the Italians do, or until the Saudis approve, or without a U.N. resolution. This White House is forthright for followership.

    Just as an aside on the no-fly zones, military folks discussed stand-off options, implementing from off-shore against mostly coastal positions. Not airspace domination, but airspace suppression. In terms of military casualties, very low risk and easy to do, based on military sources.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703597804576194690095426116.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703597804576194312741837934.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704041504576185611627538134.html
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    Mar 13, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
    And I thought the President was responsible for every bad thing that happens in this country, according to some people...even the high price of gas and people's yearning to be free in the Middle East. Because everything revolves around us (and by that I mean U.S. of A.). icon_rolleyes.gif
    Next thing you know, we'll blame him for teen pregnancies.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 13, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Following excerpt from the first link:

    Whatever else one might say about President Obama's Libya policy, it has succeeded brilliantly in achieving its oft-stated goal of not leading the world. No one can any longer doubt the U.S. determination not to act before the Italians do, or until the Saudis approve, or without a U.N. resolution. This White House is forthright for followership.




    Like I said, about the time Obama would take the U.S. in a leadership role and roll into some country like a man on a white horse to save the day, they'll be criticizing him for sticking our noses in once again where we don't belong. Maybe it's not such a bad thing to take a back seat this time around and let the Arab League or some of the other major countries shoulder some of the burden of the world's woes. The U.S. kind of has their hands full at the moment.