Chances of Recalling Republican Wisconsin State Senators Looking Good So Far

  • creature

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    Mar 11, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    Previously the target was to get 8 State Senate Republicans recalled, but that number has dropped to 6. Of those 6, 3 of them look like they can be replaced.

    Senator Randy Hooper won his election by 184 votes.
    Senator Alberta Darling won her election with 51% of the votes
    Senator Dan Kapanke won his election with 51% of the votes (Obama won his district with 61% in 2008 ).

    The other three Senators are Sen. Robert Cowles (District 2), Sheila Harsdorf (District 10), and Luther Olsen (District 14). I don't know their numbers.

    The Wisconsin Democratic party has already raised $800,000, $200,000 of which has come in since this Wednesday, March 9th, 2011.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/democrats-labor-set-their_n_834232.html
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    Mar 11, 2011 1:59 AM GMT
    800,000? 200,000? Looks like greedy special interests are at work! icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    Wow, that's a lot kids putting in their nickels just to save Mommy & Daddy's collective bargaining rights.

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    Mar 11, 2011 2:09 AM GMT


    Why do you hate middle class people?


    Or would you rather a company just pay you less and less and less?


    And now a second bitter person from Canada....

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    Mar 11, 2011 2:13 AM GMT
    Sorry to rain on your liberal parade, but Wisconsin is just the first of several states going down this path. Ohio is passing an even stronger bill. Look at this thread and the study I posted. Bottom line: when the benefits of the existing right-to-work states start being felt in Wisconsin, the Republicans will be in an even stronger position. The Democrats will stay in the dog house until they decide to break free from being the puppy to big union labor bosses.

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    Mar 11, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    Not exactly sure how this is a rain on the parade since this thread is about recalling 6 Republican State Senators, 3 of which look likely.

    I am aware of the other anti-union bills that are being passed. And so are the strategists. Here's a clip from the article I linked to:

    Officials with the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees, meanwhile, huddled for a strategy meeting on Thursday afternoon to discuss not only recall strategy but also how to upend similar anti-union movements across the country. Indeed, while it was demoralizing to see the Wisconsin bill pass, the prevailing fear within the labor community was that without a sufficient punishment, other Republican officials in different states would follow suit.

    There may be attempts to recall other state Republicans.
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
    I have a strong feeling that the republicans in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, Florida, Arizona, Minnisota, Michigan in particular and other states as well, have taken their ideology way too far and that the pendulum is positioned straight up and down right now and quickly swinging bact toward the left (democratic).

    The repugs have taken things too far in stretching things against the Dems and in trying to undermine the middleclass, their missrepresenting dems as socialists, fascists and etc. was a far stretch from the truth and the public, now that the repugs are working their magic, is seeing their true motives for wanting to retake power from the dems. The repugs are only helping the rich who fund their elections, the middleclass is left behind, watch the pendulum swing away from them.

    Don't forget that the "evil unions" are what gave us our weekends with our families, our 40 hour weeks, a living wage, rights for the ladies, limits on child labor, health care, vacation time, retirements, holidays, even the freedom to take a piss when needed without asking "the boss". and many more pleasantries in the workplace. While the repugs complain about unions they support CEO's with salaries many many times that of a Union workers, but we all hear that the unions are breaking the corps. YAH RIGHT !!!!
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    I love the Recall...and not just when it's used to remove Republicans who aren't listening to their constituents.

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    Mar 11, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    creature saidNot exactly sure how this is a rain on the parade since this thread is about recalling 6 Republican State Senators, 3 of which look likely.

    As an aside, you are aware of recall efforts against the Democrats. The relevance to your point is when the dust settles and the disruptive demonstrators leave, people will appreciate the economic benefits the law will bring, and the efforts against the Republicans will loose steam.
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    I am aware of the recall efforts against the Democrats. However, I don't know what chance those efforts have at succeeding. As I posted, Democrats have a good chance of winning at least 3 seats.

    I guess it depends on the districts those 8 (if it is still 8 ) Democrats come from. Good luck if those Democrats won by a comfortable margin.
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:48 AM GMT
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    creature saidNot exactly sure how this is a rain on the parade since this thread is about recalling 6 Republican State Senators, 3 of which look likely.

    As an aside, you are aware of recall efforts against the Democrats. The relevance to your point is when the dust settles and the disruptive demonstrators leave, people will appreciate the economic benefits the law will bring, and the efforts against the Republicans will loose steam.


    There are no economic benefits in right-to-work states, unless one wants fewer benefits, less pay and more dangerous working conditions. (Or unless one owns a company operating in those states.)

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    Mar 11, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    creature saidI am aware of the recall efforts against the Democrats. However, I don't know what chance those efforts have at succeeding. As I posted, Democrats have a good chance of winning at least 3 seats.

    I guess it depends on the districts those 8 (if it is still 8 ) Democrats come from. Good luck if those Democrats won by a comfortable margin.

    You're assuming because it was close before, that makes them vulnerable when such an election would be held. Assumptions and optimistic thinking on your part. As I said, I think the trend will favor the Republicans. As the Wisconsin residence see other states following in their footsteps, such as Ohio, I think it will increase their support for the soon-to-be-law. But no use belaboring it; there are other exciting races in other states.
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
    well at least the coverage is stimulating the economy of Wisconsin.

    They should figure out some PPV cage match between Michael Moore and the Gov of Wisconsin.

    Maybe even a wrestling match in a pool filled with cheeze wiz
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    Mar 11, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidThere are no economic benefits in right-to-work states, unless one wants fewer benefits, less pay and more dangerous working conditions. (Or unless one owns a company operating in those states.)

    I included a link above to another thread where I posted a link and provided excerpts to a study that correlated migration away from union states and towards right-to-work states. You might find that interesting. Also, I am not aware of worker dissatisfaction in right-to-work states. I believe the workers are happy working for the Japanese automakers in the southeastern states. Isn't that an example of why unions wanted to eliminate the secret ballot so they could intimidate the workers into joining? Just asking.
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    Mar 11, 2011 3:12 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said800,000? 200,000? Looks like greedy special interests are at work! icon_twisted.gif

    A mere pittance compared to the special interest money from big business and the financial sector. I believe the big health insurance companies were spending $1,000,000 A DAY to lobby Congress during the health care debates.

    You know, you really destroy your credibility when such patently bias statements.
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    Mar 11, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThere are no economic benefits in right-to-work states, unless one wants fewer benefits, less pay and more dangerous working conditions. (Or unless one owns a company operating in those states.)

    I included a link above to another thread where I posted a link and provided excerpts to a study that correlated migration away from union states and towards right-to-work states. You might find that interesting. Also, I am not aware of worker dissatisfaction in right-to-work states. I believe the workers are happy working for the Japanese automakers in the southeastern states. Isn't that an example of why unions wanted to eliminate the secret ballot so they could intimidate the workers into joining? Just asking.


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    Mar 11, 2011 3:52 AM GMT
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    creature saidNot exactly sure how this is a rain on the parade since this thread is about recalling 6 Republican State Senators, 3 of which look likely.

    As an aside, you are aware of recall efforts against the Democrats. The relevance to your point is when the dust settles and the disruptive demonstrators leave, people will appreciate the economic benefits the law will bring, and the efforts against the Republicans will loose steam.





    HAHAHAHA!
    Your delusional comment reminds me of how the Democrats said that when the benefits of the HCR bill kicked in - voters would change their minds and be pleased that the Dems passed the bill after all.
    Not so much!

    Ignoring the will of the people and ramming through legislation in a strictly partisan party line vote always pisses voters off and results in lost seats in the next election.
    Or, as in this case - in a recall election.
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    socalfitness said
    creature saidNot exactly sure how this is a rain on the parade since this thread is about recalling 6 Republican State Senators, 3 of which look likely.

    As an aside, you are aware of recall efforts against the Democrats. The relevance to your point is when the dust settles and the disruptive demonstrators leave, people will appreciate the economic benefits the law will bring, and the efforts against the Republicans will loose steam.


    HAHAHAHA!
    Your delusional comment reminds me of how the Democrats said that when the benefits of the HCR bill kicked in - voters would change their minds and be pleased that the Dems passed the bill after all.
    Not so much!

    Ignoring the will of the people and ramming through legislation in a strictly partisan party line vote always pisses voters off and results in lost seats in the next election.
    Or, as in this case - in a recall election.

    Actually it's not ignoring the will of the people. You have been believing a flawed poll. See the thread I started about the new Gallup poll. Quite sure the recall will fail and you will remain on the losing side.
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    Mar 11, 2011 4:22 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    creature saidI am aware of the recall efforts against the Democrats. However, I don't know what chance those efforts have at succeeding. As I posted, Democrats have a good chance of winning at least 3 seats.

    I guess it depends on the districts those 8 (if it is still 8 ) Democrats come from. Good luck if those Democrats won by a comfortable margin.

    You're assuming because it was close before, that makes them vulnerable when such an election would be held. Assumptions and optimistic thinking on your part. As I said, I think the trend will favor the Republicans. As the Wisconsin residence see other states following in their footsteps, such as Ohio, I think it will increase their support for the soon-to-be-law. But no use belaboring it; there are other exciting races in other states.


    That trend will favor the Republicans? That would be an assumption and optimism on your part.