INJURIES AT THE GYM: If witnessed, would you help?

  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 13, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    I was at my YMCA in Wichita working out about 2 hours ago. I had been doing
    4 sets of leg curls and on the final set I heard a "banging" behind me, like you hear occasionally when someone drops some weights. I didn't react at all until I got up and just happened to look around. Behind me, on the floor was a 60ish year old woman who apparently had an accident with a machine and had fallen. She was clearly shaken up. What bothered me was a number of people were just walking by and ignored the woman.

    Now Sunday afternoon isn't a busy time, but I immediately ask her if I could help her and if she was injured. She said no, she was fine, but she looked pretty shaken up. I kept my eyes on her and noticed she had an issue with
    adjusting another machine and unfortunately looked as if she perhaps had an accident (there was a wet looking outline on the back of her sweats).

    I called it to the attention of the head trainer who just happened to be there.
    I'm not sure if the woman just wasn't coordinated, but she wasn't handling it well. I was half pissed about the other people who were just walking by and didn't lend any assistance when she fell from the first machine.

    My question. If somebody had fallen or perhaps had an injury... would you take the initiative? Or would you be one of those who would walk by and notice....... and do nothing?
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    An old guy at my gym had weak knees and fell on treadmill sometime ago. About five people were there before he fell off it helping him up, etc.

    It was awesome!

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    Mar 13, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    So yes, I think there ARE many who help!
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:13 PM GMT
    Truth be told...the majority of people in this world are out for themselves, they could careless about anyone.
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:14 PM GMT
    No I wouldn't deny anyone who was about to be injured....


    SO ANYWAYS, tell us the real story about her.... was she attractive or what? I am a curious cat!!!!!
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:20 PM GMT
    I had a similar experience some years ago. . . in the company cafeteria of a Fortune 500 company. A woman collapsed on the floor, head first, right in front of maybe 40-50 people. I ran over to help her. No one else did. She had just fainted, but you never know what could be wrong. Anyway, I helped her up, saw that she was OK, etc.

    During that entire time, none of the dozens of people near us offered any assistance in any way. In fact, when she was down on the floor in a heap, several people STEPPED OVER HER to get to the checkout line. I thought, you bastards, even dinosaurs had more empathy for their own species than this. Pathetic and sick beyond words.
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    Mar 13, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    I know it happens, but I can't fathom someone stepping over a sick person.
    Just beyond the pale. Good that you helped, LittleDude
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    I would call someone who's knowledgeable and could provide assistance. I wouldn't personally help because helping out could potentialy exacerbate the injury. There might also be potential liability issues. Ultimately, the gym is responsible for everything that transpires within its confines and it should be held to that standard.
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    I need more information. Does this person look well-enough off to show "appreciation" for the kindness rendered, or are we talking about some less affluent member of whom you wonder how they can afford the membership fee and from whom you can only expect a heart-felt "Thank you"?
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:13 AM GMT
    DOMINUS saidI would call someone who's knowledgeable and could provide assistance. I wouldn't personally help because helping out could potentialy exacerbate the injury. There might also be potential liability issues. Ultimately, the gym is responsible for everything that transpires within its confines and it should be held to that standard.


    Good Samaritan laws normally protect individuals trying to help. Of course, our natural response will depend on the severity of the injury and the type of acute care required (e.g., watch and wait vs. calling 911).
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:15 AM GMT
    Though not an excuse, some of those people might have "ignored her" to avoid making her feel bad. If it was a minor incident or one that didn't look too bad, they might have thought that she would have preferred that no one see her fall and give her assistance. If there was an employee nearby, then he/she has no excuse.

    I know I have slipped or run into a door and just prayed no one saw me be stupid. Unfortunately, the more considerate people seem to always be around me when I do those stupid things and will always ask and see if I am alright. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    help.

    i can't even imagine the thought process of someone who would just carries on with what they were doing.
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    Mar 14, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    The more onlookers there are, the more they dissociate themselves, thinking : oh someone else would take care of it, it's not my business.. blah blah blah..
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    Mar 14, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
    I would definitely help. That was the way I was brought up. If I had an accident on the gym floor, I would want someone to help me. Unless of course I had just done something really stupid and embarrassing, then maybe not.
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    Mar 14, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
    Sure would without a second thought. I wasn't an eagle scout for nothing.
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    Mar 14, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
    The sad reality is that people are assholes. Then take into account that in situations of extreme distress people have three immediate responses: fight, flight, or freeze.

    My experience of assholes in a situation where another person is hurt is that they typically run away (flight) or ignore (freeze) the situation completely.

    The non-assholes usually freeze up from the adrenaline, shock, and fear.

    The rest of society jumps in to help (fight). This last section of society that is not full of assholes and that doesn't experience paralysis acts to help a person.

    Remember what happened when Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head by Jared Lee Loughner? In all of that chaos three people of the whole crowd acted out of good faith.

    Daniel Hernandez was just an intern working for the congresswoman for just one week. When he heard the shots fired his first instinct was to run towards her, towards the gunfire, to her, and held her until the ambulance arrived. He held her to his chest so tight that he may have saved her life, as doctors have said that Giffords is still alive because she didn’t lose much blood. When the paramedics arrived, he stayed her holding her hand the rest of the way.

    Bill badger was grazed by a bullet in the head and in spite of his injury he managed to wrestle the gunman to the ground. The 22 year old proved to be no match for the 74 year old retired army colonel. 61 year-old Patricia Maisch disarmed the gunman and later was asked by an utterly shocked and amazed
    reporter, “in the terror of the moment how could you do that?” And Patricia Maisch calmly and simply answered, “Because that’s what needed to be done.”

    EDIT: Also thank you for being a good human and helping her out.
  • neosyllogy

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    Mar 14, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
    That seems strange.
    The few minor incidents I've seen the people nearby almost always check to make sure everything is okay. I think that would be even more true if the person in question were elderly...
    very odd
    Thank you for helping her anyway. Hope she's okay.
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    Mar 14, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    One time when I was running on the treadmill, this old couple came on got on the treadmills next to me. The woman was pretty feeble and confused looking and the husband had to start the treadmill for her. She would literally slow down and almost fall off the back of the treadmill because she wasn't going fast enough and at the last second, she would pick up the pace so she didn't fall off. I was freaking out the whole time afraid that she would fall, but I didn't say anything because I figured her husband knew what he was doing. But if she had fallen, I would definitely help.
  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 14, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    I always do. A few weeks ago I saw a guy with earplugs in and half sitting on a bench just fell over and looked like he couldnt get up. I quickly popped my ear plugs out and came over and asked if he needed help and he said yes. I couldnt get him on his feet so I asked if I should call 911 and he shook his head. I ran and got my phone and also told the guy that works the front desk.

    The EMCs took him to the hospital but all in all it seemed he was over-doing it that day and was dehydrated to the point of collapse.