LISPING.....WTF?

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    Mar 17, 2011 12:47 AM GMT
    What is the deal with gay men "lisping"? REALLY! Do you have a speech impediment or some sort of deformity or birth defect? ...Do you want to be on "Broadway" and need to be some sort of "drama queen" all the time?...STOP IT! We all get a bad reputation when the stereotype is perpetuated!

    Just drives me crazy that I had a consultant came into my office today, and through our conversations, he commented that he would never have thought I was gay, since I don't have a lisp or have any "gay mannerisms'.....just really caught me off guard (pissed me off too!) when he stated that stereotype.... Asked him if he expected me to grab his ass or critique his attire to "prove" my orientation....he was a bit offended when I shot that back at him....and I let him know that I was QUITE offended with HIS stereotype of gays as well! Then let him know that I would be the one making the recommendations on whether his company would be getting the contract or not.....he lost all color from his face about then....as I shook his hand (with a very firm grip) and pushed him out the office door toward the elevators.....JERK!

    ......Knock off the lisping!
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    EDIT 3-17-2011, 20:40:
    RELAX GUYS!
    HE, the contractor in my office, called it "LISPING"......I am NOT attacking anyone with a "LISP"...especially, if it is a condition. I apologize if you took it as such...

    In retrospect, I think the way he meant "LISP" was to cover the very theatrical, flamboyant, campy, over-the-top, snarky, over-gesticulated speaking that some "perform".....
    ALSO....he called today and apologized all over the place.....
    I recommended his company for the contract before he ever called....
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:02 AM GMT
    That guy is an asshole. However, I'm glad you shot back at him and were not passive. I hate when people give you back handed compliments and accept you not to get offended.

    Only a minority of gay men have lisps. Thats why they call them stereotypes.
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    I've never heard a gay man with a lisp. But it's my understanding that lisps can't be helped. Telling someone to stop lisping would be like telling someone to stop breathing.
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:28 AM GMT
    I'd really like to know this person's definition of a lisp.

    -i'm really unfamiliar with the term for there are a few 'types' and are all attributed to speech delay. They are mostly resolved before the age of seven.

    -I have yet to encounter an adult with a true 'lisp'.
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    Who pissed in your coffee this morning?

    Some people genuinely have a lisp. It's not a mannerism.
    What's next? Complaining about a guy with ms who needs to use braces or a wheelchair being to lazy to walk correctly?


    If the guy's lisp is a mannerism, does it matter? Is he lighting puppies on fire? No, ok then get over it.

    I think your overblown reaction says a lot more about your fears and intolerance than a guy's possible need to adopt a lisp to fit in says about him.
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
    Well, I guess this just proves that gay guys really do get PMS. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidWell, I guess this just proves that gay guys really do get PMS. icon_wink.gif



    Win!
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    Mar 17, 2011 1:54 AM GMT
    NEWS FLASH BITCH!! No one is going to cater to your demands so you can take a seat.
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    Mar 17, 2011 2:12 AM GMT
    I lisp, but it's something I've had all my life and it's something I can't help and it is by no means a mannerism...so overall I think this is a rather silly thread to think that gay men lisp by choice
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    Mar 17, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    Be nice. Lisping generally can't be controlled. Limp wristing, yes.icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 17, 2011 6:28 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ said
    paulflexes saidWell, I guess this just proves that gay guys really do get PMS. icon_wink.gif



    Win!!!







    icon_biggrin.gif!!!
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    Mar 17, 2011 6:33 AM GMT
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    Mar 17, 2011 6:38 AM GMT
    Some guys can't help it...It doesn't really bother me, but it can be annoying...Especially, if they frequently emphasize it intentionally.

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    Mar 17, 2011 6:46 AM GMT
    Sporty_g saidI had a consultant came into my office today, and through our conversations, he commented that he would never have thought I was gay...

    How did this subject of "gay" come up "through your conversations"?
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    Mar 17, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
    Don't hate on guys with a lisp they have life hard already I mean whose idea was it to put an "S" right in the middle of the word LISP!?
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    Mar 18, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
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    Sporty_g saidI had a consultant came into my office today, and through our conversations, he commented that he would never have thought I was gay...

    How did this subject of "gay" come up "through your conversations"?


    I have a "picture collage" in my office with, among many people and activities, my partner in it. A few of them are full of rainbows and sort of obvious from PRIDE celebrations....he noticed and our comments started from there.......started friendly and innocuous and turned really irritating...icon_surprised.gif

    He called me today and was very apologetic.....I recommended him for the contract yesterday, in spite of his comments....icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 18, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    Only if I were to rant about annoying stereotypes......
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    Mar 18, 2011 1:07 PM GMT
    Sporty_g said
    bigeasydude said
    Sporty_g saidI had a consultant came into my office today, and through our conversations, he commented that he would never have thought I was gay...

    How did this subject of "gay" come up "through your conversations"?


    I have a "picture collage" in my office with, among many people and activities, my partner in it. A few of them are full of rainbows and sort of obvious from PRIDE celebrations....he noticed and our comments started from there.......started friendly and innocuous and turned really irritating...icon_surprised.gif

    He called me today and was very apologetic.....I recommended him for the contract yesterday, in spite of his comments....icon_eek.gif


    It's good to be a bigger man and not hold grudges. However Id like some clarification on your initial post on how you said "knock it off" as if it is something that not only is exclusive to gay men, but is something that can be changed. Also you insinuated anyone who talks like that is a drama queen? That's is a lot of assumptions solely based on a voice.

    If this voice is described as irritating, annoying or "put on" why would someone go out of their way to make their voice sound that way?

    Do people really think that people can simply switch their voice that they've had for many years/decades just like that? I'd like an answer for this seriously. By anyone really.

    I cant believe some actually believe that the few Gay males who speak that way are pretending to.

    This video is relevant and important to this thread:




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    Mar 18, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
    cmdrkoenig67 saidSome guys can't help it...It doesn't really bother me, but it can be annoying...Especially, if they frequently emphasize it intentionally.



    How do you know their trying to emphasize it intentionally? How do you know their own intentions about their own voice?
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    Mar 19, 2011 4:59 AM GMT
    From one of my other favorite Homosexual Atheist youtubers ProfMTH

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    Mar 19, 2011 5:17 AM GMT
    Sporty_g saidWhat is the deal with gay men "lisping"? REALLY! Do you have a speech impediment or some sort of deformity or birth defect? ...Do you want to be on "Broadway" and need to be some sort of "drama queen" all the time?...STOP IT! We all get a bad reputation when the stereotype is perpetuated!

    Just drives me crazy that I had a consultant came into my office today, and through our conversations, he commented that he would never have thought I was gay, since I don't have a lisp or have any "gay mannerisms'.....just really caught me off guard (pissed me off too!) when he stated that stereotype.... Asked him if he expected me to grab his ass or critique his attire to "prove" my orientation....he was a bit offended when I shot that back at him....and I let him know that I was QUITE offended with HIS stereotype of gays as well! Then let him know that I would be the one making the recommendations on whether his company would be getting the contract or not.....he lost all color from his face about then....as I shook his hand (with a very firm grip) and pushed him out the office door toward the elevators.....JERK!

    ......Knock off the lisping!
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    EDIT 3-17-2011, 20:40:
    RELAX GUYS!
    HE, the contractor in my office, called it "LISPING"......I am NOT attacking anyone with a "LISP"...especially, if it is a condition. I apologize if you took it as such...

    In retrospect, I think the way he meant "LISP" was to cover the very theatrical, flamboyant, campy, over-the-top, snarky, over-gesticulated speaking that some "perform".....
    ALSO....he called today and apologized all over the place.....
    I recommended his company for the contract before he ever called....

    Yes you are attacking people with lisps. And doing it for the most worthless of reasons: bigots won't like us if you lisp.
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    Mar 19, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    Well, there ARE cultural lisps. And all kinds of other affectations that one can't mention without offending the guilty parties.

    One huge example of cultural lisping is found in Spain. I'm the first to admit that my spanish sucks. But the "deep south" accent in spain involves a lot of lisping. And I understand that Catalonian is even worse. I could never figure out which syllables to lisp and which not to.
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    Apr 13, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
    DodgedBullet said
    cmdrkoenig67 saidSome guys can't help it...It doesn't really bother me, but it can be annoying...Especially, if they frequently emphasize it intentionally.



    How do you know their trying to emphasize it intentionally? How do you know their own intentions about their own voice?


    I mean when it's intentional...Duh.