Large Corporations Are Fighting For Us

  • metta

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    Mar 17, 2011 7:26 AM GMT
    Gay marriage ban amendment worries Lilly, Cummins

    http://www.ibj.com/gay-marriage-ban-amendment-worries-lilly-cummins/PARAMS/article/25970
  • metta

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    Mar 17, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
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    I see it as a good thing, Just as we saw some major corporations stand up against prop 8. Standing up against bigotry is a good thing. Financially supporting an organization or politician that is working to harm people is bad. Just as it is a good thing when corporations take a stand to protect the environment and cause minimal harm to it.

    For me, it is not a black and white issue in the way that you are mentioning. Ethics plays a big part in this. I don't like that corporations lobby Congress to create wars or harm people in order to maximize profit for major corporations. Anything for profit mentality is not ok. Unlimited influence is not ok. Corporations having more political influence than people is not ok. IMO, corporations, politicians, and laws should reflect that.

    In regards to civil rights/gay rights, etc., a corporation taking no position on it actually helps the other side more than our side. It is a good thing when Home Depot speaks up in support of protecting the rights of people, and that they see it benefits them by supporting their employees as well.

    Target, now they have really screwed up this issue and have lost tens of million (possibly much more) in sales because of it. Their CEO had the power to make the right decision and decided not to. I'm looking forward to the day to end of the current CEO's reign on Target.
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    Mar 18, 2011 12:39 AM GMT
    A big big chunk of the advancement of gay rights have been done in and from private (big) enterprises, and not just because of it being a matter of principle (thought there are cases in which it is) but because they cannot afford to let prejudice affect their competitiveness: they do live in the real world, period.

    That's not to say they won't, from time to time, have interests that supersede for the time being supporting gay rights directly (i.e. Koch brothers, in favor of marriage equality and yet more interested in helping politicians with libertarian/conservative economic views who also, for the time being, turn out to be not gay friendly more often than not)

    Government can afford to screw itself and its citizens so long as a large enough group of people share a particular prejudice. Gotta love Capitalism. icon_cool.gif

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    Mar 18, 2011 1:15 AM GMT
    Remember the Golden Rule...

    "Whosoever hath gold, maketh the rules"

    And it's corollary:

    "Whosoever hath gold and desireth it ever more, lobbieth for rules to acquire it more easily".

    Corporations are amoral organizations concerned for one thing: The bottom line for profits for the stockholders.

    It is wise never to forget this.
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    Mar 18, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
    If republicans want to be consistent they should support gay marriage.
    It is absurd to persistently crusade for minimal government intervention in the financial actions of businesses and individuals while at the same time denying the right to autonomous action when it comes to social issues.

    But who knows if enough businesses stand up for gay rights it could help us a lot. Republicans just can't say no to a businessman in a shinny nice suit packing a large.... wad of cash
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    Mar 18, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
    I thought they were fighting against us... look at Target, Best Buy, Walmart- etc.

    I take their (Lilly's) drugs though- they make me sane.