Bad news for Repubs

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    Mar 17, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
    Ohio Governor Kasich tries to sell his budget cuts to a skeptical public

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ohio-governor-kasich-tries-to-sell-his-budget-cuts-to-a-skeptical-public/2011/03/16/ABE1Z1h_story.html

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    “We actually were looking to buy a house, and we stopped doing that because we don’t know what our income is going to be,” said Hope Rummell, a police officer from Alliance, Ohio, who voted for John McCain in 2008 but is alarmed by what Republicans are doing in her state now.

    “Nobody gets rich being a police officer or being a fireman,” said Rummell, whose husband is also on the police force. “We’re strong middle class. We went to college, and we do okay. But we have a real fear that this will kill out a large percentage of our middle class in this state.”......

    ......"If Kasich makes the sale, he could become a model for other Republican fiscal hawks. If he falls short, it could make life difficult for the GOP’s presidential nominee in 2012. No Republican has won the White House without winning Ohio."
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    Mar 17, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidOhio Governor Kasich tries to sell his budget cuts to a skeptical public

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ohio-governor-kasich-tries-to-sell-his-budget-cuts-to-a-skeptical-public/2011/03/16/ABE1Z1h_story.html

    From the article:

    “We actually were looking to buy a house, and we stopped doing that because we don’t know what our income is going to be,” said Hope Rummell, a police officer from Alliance, Ohio, who voted for John McCain in 2008 but is alarmed by what Republicans are doing in her state now.

    “Nobody gets rich being a police officer or being a fireman,” said Rummell, whose husband is also on the police force. “We’re strong middle class. We went to college, and we do okay. But we have a real fear that this will kill out a large percentage of our middle class in this state.”......

    ......"If Kasich makes the sale, he could become a model for other Republican fiscal hawks. If he falls short, it could make life difficult for the GOP’s presidential nominee in 2012. No Republican has won the White House without winning Ohio."




    The ill after effects of the 2007-2009 Bush recession are filtering down to the state level.
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    Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM GMT
    The GOP can only pummel and degrade so many people, till there is nobody left.....
    Gays
    Women
    Unmarried women
    Union members
    Teachers
    Nurses
    On and on and on....


  • GQjock

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    Mar 18, 2011 10:48 AM GMT
    It's called a power grab ................. Hopefully the middle class who were fooled again by these liars

    Hopefully it'll sink in and they'll all say ................ WTF?
    and boot these guys in the ass come November
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    Mar 18, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    Too bad we do not have a viable and sensible third party alternative.

    Both the Dems and the GOP are incorrigibly corrupt political machines.

    And the bigger third parties (Libertarians, Constitution Party, and the Greens) are either lacking in solid platforms, or are so polarized to the far left or right so as to completely exclude the moderate independent middle.
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    Mar 18, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidToo bad we do not have a viable and sensible third party alternative.

    Both the Dems and the GOP are incorrigibly corrupt political machines.

    And the bigger third parties (Libertarians, Constitution Party, and the Greens) are either lacking in solid platforms, or are so polarized to the far left or right so as to completely exclude the moderate independent middle.
    I'll go one farther.. ANY political party is an inherently corrupt political machine.
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    Mar 18, 2011 7:18 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    alphatrigger saidToo bad we do not have a viable and sensible third party alternative.

    Both the Dems and the GOP are incorrigibly corrupt political machines.

    And the bigger third parties (Libertarians, Constitution Party, and the Greens) are either lacking in solid platforms, or are so polarized to the far left or right so as to completely exclude the moderate independent middle.
    I'll go one farther.. ANY political party is an inherently corrupt political machine.



    Absolutely.
    Which is a big part of why voting third party is such an utter waste of your vote.
    If - by some impossible miracle - a third party became as viable and powerful as the two major parties - that third party would become just as corrupt and just as much of a selfish political machine as the two major parties we have now.
    And we would have gained nothing.
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    Mar 18, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    TropicalMark said
    alphatrigger saidToo bad we do not have a viable and sensible third party alternative.

    Both the Dems and the GOP are incorrigibly corrupt political machines.

    And the bigger third parties (Libertarians, Constitution Party, and the Greens) are either lacking in solid platforms, or are so polarized to the far left or right so as to completely exclude the moderate independent middle.
    I'll go one farther.. ANY political party is an inherently corrupt political machine.



    Absolutely.
    Which is a big part of why voting third party is such an utter waste of your vote.
    If - by some impossible miracle - a third party became as viable and powerful as the two major parties - that third party would become just as corrupt and just as much of a selfish political machine as the two major parties we have now.
    And we would have gained nothing.


    I'm inclined to agree. The electoral system and in particular ballot access laws as well as campiagn financing laws need to be reviewed and restructured so that the only lawful source of funds is an even distribution of public funds - and to completely outlaw private campaign funding in every form.

    If all candidates had an equal amount of funds and access time to work with (quite possibly one of the few justifications for maintaining NPR/CPC as a federal funded entity)...

    ... it might give folks a bit more choice each election cycle.
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    Mar 18, 2011 9:22 PM GMT
    alphatrigger said
    rickrick91 said
    TropicalMark said
    alphatrigger saidToo bad we do not have a viable and sensible third party alternative.

    Both the Dems and the GOP are incorrigibly corrupt political machines.

    And the bigger third parties (Libertarians, Constitution Party, and the Greens) are either lacking in solid platforms, or are so polarized to the far left or right so as to completely exclude the moderate independent middle.
    I'll go one farther.. ANY political party is an inherently corrupt political machine.



    Absolutely.
    Which is a big part of why voting third party is such an utter waste of your vote.
    If - by some impossible miracle - a third party became as viable and powerful as the two major parties - that third party would become just as corrupt and just as much of a selfish political machine as the two major parties we have now.
    And we would have gained nothing.


    I'm inclined to agree. The electoral system and in particular ballot access laws as well as campiagn financing laws need to be reviewed and restructured so that the only lawful source of funds is an even distribution of public funds - and to completely outlaw private campaign funding in every form.

    If all candidates had an equal amount of funds and access time to work with (quite possibly one of the few justifications for maintaining NPR/CPC as a federal funded entity)...

    ... it might give folks a bit more choice each election cycle.
    Alpha.. you know the repubs will NEVER agree to that! Ever!
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    Mar 18, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    With homes in the US being so cheap, my partner and I have recently acquired a nice home in Florida, and am now looking for a second. But......she is not concerned with the extra tax the Obama administration is putting on America?
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    Mar 19, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    I don't know what it is but I keep reading the title as "Bad news for Robots."

  • tazzari

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    Mar 19, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    I wonder if all this doesn't mean that the GOP has shot itself in the feet. Could this be the beginning of the end for corporate takeover of democracy?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/18/wisconsin-us-politics