Packing on the pounds

  • art_smass

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    Feb 11, 2007 10:15 PM GMT
    I noticed that no one had opened this forum yet, so I thought I would offer my expert advice.

    I suggest that anyone who is eager to gain weight should deep fry everything they eat.
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    Feb 11, 2007 11:13 PM GMT
    Don't forget a heapin' helpin' of butter! :;
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    Feb 12, 2007 3:02 AM GMT
    *cough*

    you do realise that this is the Gay FITNESS Community, not the Gay LARD ASS Community??
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    Feb 12, 2007 3:50 PM GMT
    I forgot to mention that EVERYTHING tastes better with ranch dressing.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 12, 2007 4:56 PM GMT
    Pancakes with lots of syrup, and pork chops with Bisquits & gravy should be as morning staple - lol
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    Feb 14, 2007 10:19 PM GMT
    Here in Texas, it's FRIED TWINKIES, FRIED SNICKERS, FRIED TURKEY, and FRIED ICE CREAM.

    Dallas didn't get to be the stroke capitol of the world by accident.

    If it ain't fried, it needs fryin'!.

    In Texas, it's fixin' to be fat.
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    Feb 15, 2007 6:04 PM GMT
    LOL, In Oregon, we fry it, but then we pay extra to have some con man certify it as "organic" or "natural" or "sustainable" or just "holier than fuckin' thou." So it's OK then.
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    Feb 15, 2007 7:25 PM GMT
    OMG - fried snickers... I miss Texas!
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    Feb 19, 2007 10:12 PM GMT
    Actually- ever since running (about 2 years ago), I've started to lose weight but recently I've passed the lower level and I don't want to lose any more weight. I've started to work on my chest and abs and shoulders in an attempt to build up muscle to a) look good in swimming trunks and b) to stop being underweight. It's not so easy to put on weight without putting it on with fat. I try and eat more snacks between lunch and dinner but so far. I'm just over 52kilos (about 8.2 stones). What do you think of the weight gain drinks?
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    Feb 20, 2007 8:54 PM GMT
    Its difficult to add teh weight without ading fat particularly if you dont know your current calorie input.

    A good rule of thumb is to increase the calories by 100 evry 2 weeks, that way its long enough to see the effect and short enough to adjust it before you put too much excess on.

    Im not a great advocate for supps, they have your place if you know your diet well enough, most gym warriors dont and then wonder why they dont see a 6 pack. The main benefit of the drinks are they are relatively fat free, downside a hell of a lot of them (more teh cheaper ones) are just loaded with sugar- not that thats always the enemy its made out to be.

    At the end of the day its down to preference and time available. I went au naturale using home made porridge oars smoothie with fruit and milk to add my calories and up my protein. You can easilt get a clean source of up to 700 calories I found but its the convenience factor that turns alot off.

    Theres also some great recipes for calorie loaded fat free cakes and flap jacks. The biggest issue you find here is that if you are on a relatively low calorie intake before or quite a small guy before your stomach finds it hard to process all the extra food so a protein/bulking drink is so much easier.

    Mind you the protein farts are enough to put anyone off so go for ones with added lactase or soy based
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    Feb 20, 2007 8:55 PM GMT
    "Im not a great advocate for supps, they have your place if ....."

    sorry that should have said "their place"
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    Feb 21, 2007 3:26 PM GMT
    Hey Abspretender. Just started running a coule of weeks ago. Will see what happens on the weight front. I like you are in that category few understand -- not so easy to gain weight-- recently read that most information about calorie intake for those with this challenge underestimate the intake need. Of course it needs to be healthy food. This generally means you have to force yourself to eat more than you wnat to. By the way, I was the same weight for about 20 years. 2 years ago, started gaining a bit as a result of cycle. Muscle is heavier than fat. So, don't give up. Just try adding a bit more food especially within a short time after exercise (within the hour I believe) when it has most positive impact. If others feel any of this is a bit off, please add in.
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    Feb 21, 2007 10:25 PM GMT
    Hey guys, thanks for your thoughts. I have taken to eating porridge everyday like a good boy (LOL) and I agree Bfg1; I think weight gain drinks are too full of sugar. I run every evening for half an hour and 3 days every week I do abs exercises. Perhaps I'm overdoing the running but at the same time, I don't think half an hour a day is excessive. Good luck with your running MikeR; you'll find the weight falls away fairly quickly after about 2 weeks or so. Let us know how you go....

    Nobody seems too sympathetic when you say you're trying to gain weight do they? Ha Ha!
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    Feb 22, 2007 10:43 AM GMT
    well hardly surprising tney aint sympathetic when you say you are a hard gainer yet have this unnatural desire to run and burn off much needed calories!!! :-)

    YOu need to decide what you want more is that to run ? Or to build up the muscle?

    Dont worry you wont drop down dead of a heart attack from not doing running as weights gives you all the CV workout you need if structured with minimal rest
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    Feb 22, 2007 9:30 PM GMT
    Hmm. Interesting. I think I have a morbid fear of becoming obese together with all the health problems that can come from that. I guess I would like to slim(ish) but still have a nice clear 6 pack. Is that possible I wonder?
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    Feb 23, 2007 4:19 AM GMT
    I was a very hard gainer for a long time, and the best way I found to gain weight was to:

    Workout every other day, giving time for your body to recover

    Eat meals through out the day

    Here was a typical day for me

    Breakfast:
    lowfat gronola w/ milk-600
    juice-200

    snack:
    Protien shake or bar-300

    snack:
    whole wheat bagel and natural peanut butter-500

    lunch:
    wholegrain pasta with turkey meat sause-600

    snack:
    peanut butter sandwich or mac and cheese and tuna-250-400

    dinner:
    whole grain rice w/ veggies and 1 or 2 chicken breasts-700

    snack:
    milk-200

    total-about 3400 cal

    it really helps to break up meals becuase eating can become work when your really hard at gaining wieght

    if I had fats I tried to eat "good" fats and not too many deep fried things and I also tried to stay away from high fructose corn syrups, thus no jelly with my sandwiches. But, I also didn't worry if I did have a treat every now and again because I was so conscious otherwise.

    Hope this helps someone, I had to learn and teach myself a lot about eating right.
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    Feb 23, 2007 7:24 AM GMT
    Wow- that's interesting to know; thanks Dreamer9.

    I eat muesli/porridge for Breakfast

    Lunch tends to be meat; either a curry or a pie with potatoes and veg. I tend to follow it with an unhealthy fruit crumble or sponge!

    Snack is in the form of sardines and cottage cheese with rye bread or wholemeal bread.

    Dinner is usually a meat or fish dish with no salt and no fat. Like you most of the fat tends to come from nuts and stuff.

    I think that diet is ok...?
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    Mar 09, 2007 9:37 AM GMT
    what is a person with a freakishly high metabolism supposed to do to gain weight? I hate like a hauss throughout the day and go to the gym 3-5 time a week and i never gain a pound! is there any advise for people like me?
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    Mar 14, 2007 5:38 PM GMT
    should i be eating alot if i want to gain weight/mass?! im not sure im starting to take weight gaining shakes and working out.. i want to build mass..

    any advice is welcome. thanks
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    Mar 18, 2007 2:04 AM GMT
    I so feel you hardgainer pain! I tried for years and years and years to gain weight and never gained an ounce. No matter how much pizza I ate or beer I had.
    When I started working out last November I was 134 and now am 143.5. Not alot I know but a major miracle for me.
    I do an hour work out 6 days a week. I try to eat three real meals a day and also 3 Cyto-Gainer shakes. I was taking the Muscle Milk but it didn't do alot for me. My goal is 160 so we'll see if I can do that but so far so good tho of course I'm REAL impatient. Sunday is my 'day off' from exercise and 'good' eating. It REALLY sucks to be a hargainer but it seems you can't get down but ya have to have patience.....that's what I'm learning. Always looking for good butt exercises too..lol...besides the obvious! DOH!
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    Mar 18, 2007 2:49 AM GMT
    PS I wish there was a sorta camp you could go to where they teach you to correctly exercise and they teach you to eat based on your metabolism etc...for like a week or so. I know alot of that stuff but it sounds like a good idea no?
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    Mar 21, 2007 12:11 AM GMT
    what i did was to overeat during major meals and my workouts were 80% weights and 20% cardio, cardio was done before weights and i did maximum reps on every set on every workout. my workouts were the same exercises every session except every 2nd day i swapped some of the routine around and added a few more exercises.

    the only junk food i ate were big macs for the first few days (around 20g protein and fat) and all other meals were comprised of equal fat, carbs and protein intake and mostly prepared by myself.
    when i ate i ate till i was satisfied then had a 5min rest period and ate another 1/4-1/2 serving of what i just ate. my calorie intake was predominantly from food, what i mostly drank was water, really diluted cordial and the occasional beer. the eating was the most difficult part.

    this made me gain 1.5kg (3.3lbs) every week for 6 weeks then a couple more every few weeks. im naturally thin, took my 50kg (110lbs) frame 4years to gain 4kgs (8.8lbs), then i gained 10kgs (22lbs) in around 10wks doing this and gained a lot of strength. my body fat was 5% now it's 12%, lost my six pack sadly (hahaha) though im working on that. my body pools fat in the stomach region so i worked that the hardest to distribute the fat (don't know if that works but that was my mentality).

    what i read on the net was your calorie intake had to be bigger than the calories you burn and i achieved that by eating excessively (but healthy) and exercising. it took a lot of experimenting!
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    Mar 21, 2007 2:20 PM GMT
    From a seasoned Hard Gainer:

    Ultimately, I had to make peace with the body I have, and give up on the body I want. Several years ago, determined to gain, I put myself on a program where I was eating constantly, and managed to put on ten pounds. I gave it up because it was costing a lot, and also because I just got tired of putting food in my mouth every twenty minutes.

    As I've gotten older, my metabolism has slowed down some (Oh. and I'm drinking less Starbucks), so these days I'm in around where I was back during my Must Gain Weight period.

    But I will share my Top Secret Gainer Protein Shake recipe:

    In a blender, combine:

    Two cups NOT low-fat vanilla yogurt
    One raw egg (I laugh in the face of death! And Salmonela!)
    One pack Alba non-fat dry milk (stuff is cheap and loaded with protein)
    Something to flavor it (peaches, strawberries, blueberries, or my favorite: Ovaltine)

    It's like 50 g of protein, Yo.

    (Your body can't ever assimilate more than about 40 g. protein per meal, no matter who you are, so you're just pooping it out if you're going over that.)

    I avoid supplements--because I think they're a waste of money--and go for whole foods, most of which I fix myself.

    In the supermarket, look for Barilla Enriched Pasta products: it's Pasta with extra protein added!

    Another favorite of mine is Odwalla Pure Protein. They charge an arm and a leg, but it's whey protein and a banana, an orange, and an apple, and it tastes dandy.
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    Jun 16, 2007 3:51 AM GMT
    Ya'll need to come to where I work. Funnel Cakes and Bacon&Cheddar Cheese Fries.