Fucking Arab League! (advisory: not politically correct)

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    Mar 20, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
    Arab League criticizes allied airstrikes on Libya

    (AP) – 27 minutes ago

    CAIRO (AP) — The head of the Arab League has criticized international strikes on Libya, saying they caused civilian deaths.

    The Arab League's support for a no-fly zone last week helped overcome reluctance in the West for action in Libya. The U.N. authorized not only a no-fly zone but also "all necessary measures" to protect civilians.

    Amr Moussa says the military operations have gone beyond what the Arab League backed.

    Moussa has told reporters Sunday that "what happened differs from the no-fly zone objectives." He says "what we want is civilians' protection not shelling more civilians."

    U.S. and European strikes overnight targeted mainly air defenses, the U.S. military said. Libya says 48 people were killed, including civilians.

    These stupid idiots... time to tell them all to go fuck themselves.They pushed for this and now their bitching. How does one say 'go to hell in arabic'?
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    Mar 20, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    What did they back? A love tap?
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    Mar 20, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    this Arab League reaction probably comes from the desperate Lybian despot spewing out Propaganda about Civilian deaths designed totally to regain backing of fellow Arab Leaders (not saying they're despotic). The Likes of Gaddafi is fully capable of killing the civilians himself then yelling "the colonialists are killing civilians".
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    Mar 20, 2011 3:00 PM GMT
    Time for Wikileaks of Amr Moussa's statements and discussions at the UN security councils meetings!
    Lets see some egg facials.
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    Mar 20, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
    This isn't going to end well. I have a feeling it's the beginning of a royal mess as the civil unrest increases across the middle east. People have predicted that WW 3 would begin in the middle east. This very well could be the early stages of things to come.
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    Mar 20, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis isn't going to end well. I have a feeling it's the beginning of a royal mess as the civil unrest increases across the middle east. People have predicted that WW 3 would begin in the middle east. This very well could be the early stages of things to come.
    Unfortunately I agree with you to a point.. its been brewing for a long long time.
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    This has been going on for way too long. Let's take care of it this time.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/20/1986.reagan.us.bombs.libya.cnn?hpt=C2
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 20, 2011 4:29 PM GMT
    What a mess.

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    Mar 20, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    While the Arab League is full of despotic hypocrites.... you might want to amend your title to Arab League rather than Arabs. Leaders in the Arab league have long used demagoguery scapegoating the great Satan US and Israel to redirect anger within their populations toward others... this really shouldn't be a surprise.
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    Mar 20, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidWhile the Arab League is full of despotic hypocrites.... you might want to amend your title to Arab League rather than Arabs. Leaders in the Arab league have long used demagoguery scapegoating the great Satan US and Israel to redirect anger within their populations toward others... this really shouldn't be a surprise.
    Done.. I stand corrected.


    These fuckwads just changed their stand yet again.. Now they are back to officially 'backing' it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 20, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 saidWhile the Arab League is full of despotic hypocrites.... you might want to amend your title to Arab League rather than Arabs. Leaders in the Arab league have long used demagoguery scapegoating the great Satan US and Israel to redirect anger within their populations toward others... this really shouldn't be a surprise.
    Done.. I stand corrected.


    These fuckwads just changed their stand yet again.. Now they are back to officially 'backing' it. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Well, if it comes out that Obama's hesitance was warranted, after reviewing the attitude of the Arab Leagues, Obama will get a good deal of support from both sides of the aisle.

    Thing is, its impossible to know exactly what the hell is going on. We can never know what would have happened, if in the beginning Obama came out real strong against Qaddafi, with threats of force would events gone differently.?

    Honestly, if he sticks to his campaign promises and is as open as he can be about the situation, he may have a legitimate out of all the current wars .......
    We should simply walk away from this garbage. ....
    Obama played the international / U.N. game and see where it got us.....

    If this is important to Europe and Nato, the USA should only be involved to the extent and limits of our Nato treaty.

    As far as Saudi Arabia and other oil rich countries worried about this in there country.... Oh well...

    The people of the United States are tired of spending our money and lives for an area that is stuck in the dark ages.


  • TrentGrad

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    Mar 20, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    The problem with this whole situation is that it's not a neutral compromise.

    The participants in this UN action will restrain Gadhafi from acting against the rebels...but they have no intention of stopping the rebels if they get on a role and storm Tripoli.

    This isn't to say that it's wrong to attack Gadhafi...however the Arab League likely expected that the no fly zone would act to separate the combatants, and would only punish one side or the other if they violated a cease fire.

    What they're seeing is the practical application of the no fly zone: first, the nations involved in applying it neutralize air defense capabilities; second, they move to punish the side that is at odds with what is wanted.

    Remember Iraq? The allies encouraged the Kurds and Shiites to wage war against Saddam after the first Gulf War, and they did nothing. But then, when Saddam's forces began to win, that's when the allies brought the pain.
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    Mar 20, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 saidWhile the Arab League is full of despotic hypocrites.... you might want to amend your title to Arab League rather than Arabs. Leaders in the Arab league have long used demagoguery scapegoating the great Satan US and Israel to redirect anger within their populations toward others... this really shouldn't be a surprise.
    Done.. I stand corrected.


    These fuckwads just changed their stand yet again.. Now they are back to officially 'backing' it. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Well, if it comes out that Obama's hesitance seems warranted, given the Arab Leagues behavior, likely he will get alot of support from both sides of the aisle.

    Thing is, its impossible to know exactly what the hell is going on. We can never know what would have happened, if in the beginning Obama came out real strong against Qaddafi, with threats of force would events gone differently.?

    Honestly, if he sticks to his campaign promises and is as open as he can be about the situation, he may have a legitimate out of all the current wars .......
    We should simply walk away from this garbage. ....
    Obama played the international / U.N. game and see where it got us.....

    If this is important to Europe and Nato, the USA should only be involved to the extent and limits of our Nato treaty.

    As far as Saudi Arabia and other oil rich countries worried about this in there country.... Oh well...

    The people of the United States are tired of spending our money and lives for an area that is stuck in the dark ages.


    Agreed.. I am hoping that if this goes awry, that Obama stand up and truthfully tells the world about the games these folks are playing (caveat here.. we can't get caught playing the same game though)
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    Apr 02, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
    TropicalMark: I am hoping that if this goes awry, that Obama stand up and truthfully tells the world about the games these folks are playing (caveat here.. we can't get caught playing the same game though)

    jockfever: Rand Paul decided to stand up and tell the truth about Obama's hypocrisy.

    "To make his point, Paul quoted, in the legislative language, from Obama’s 2007 remarks on the subject: “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.” According to Paul’s office, “the measure aims to put the Senate on record affirming Congress as the body with constitutional authority on matters of war.”