Art_Deco saidObama's THIRD War
First, this is Obama's FIRST war. The other 2 are George Bush's wars. Your shell games don't work very well with RJ members..
I wouldn't go so far as to call this "Obama's War". He's the President of the United States and the U.N. voted to impose a "No Fly Zone", we would have looked weak and undependable as an ally and member of NATO to have not participated. He, however, did do this without congress approval. Therein lies the difference between the Libyan situation and what you call "George Bush's Wars".
Regarding Afganistan...The Senate voted unanimously in favor of going to war in a Joint Resolution (S.J. Res. 23 ). Bush did NOT act alone, as much as many on the left with selective memory would have you believe. So, calling this "Bush's War" is not exactly telling the whole story.
Regarding Iraq...in October of 2002 the Senate, as did the House, voted overwhelmingly in favor of going to War with Iraq. Some would have us believe that was "Bush War #2", but again the selective memory of some leave out part of the story. Granted, the absence of WMDs and some disastrous mismanagement of both wars, not to mention a surprisingly difficult insurgency on both fronts, lead to both wars not going exactly as hoped leaving the U.S. in a quagmire in the middle east. Had things gone right, Bush may well have left office a popular President, but they didn't, and the rest is history.
The war in Iraq was - is - and ALWAYS WILL BE - Bush's war.
He lied to the Congress to get the votes he needed.
There were no weapons of mass destruction.
There was no "imminent threat".
Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11.
It was all a pack of lies.
And it wasn't just some unavoidable inevitabilty that things would go wrong with the war in Iraq, as you suggest.
Things went wrong because of poor planning and bad decision-making.
If Bush had chosen to go with a good plan and had made good decisions - then things might have gone well.
The shitty results that we saw were the result of the shitty plan and the shitty decisions - THAT BUSH MADE.
He is responsible for his actions, as ALL presidents are.
Bush is responsible because he approved the plans and either made or approved the decisions that were made.
He was the commander -in-chief and he showed extremely poor judgement.
Bush also deserves to be blamed for his stubborn refusal to change tactics, as soldiers continued to be killed.
His arrogant pride kept him from being able to admit that the original plans he'd approved were all wrong and that he had made mistakes.
Many lives were lost as a result of his arrogance and his pride, as well as his bad judgement.