Some things are felt that can't be said...

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    Mar 20, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    There are things which are felt that are not said when in a relationship. Also, there are things that should be done without being asked to do them.
    In a gay relationship, this applies to both of you (Since both of you are men).

    There is a song that expresses exactly what I am trying to say called Fi Hagat (Some things)- please watch it.
    Music Video (I do NOT own this video):



    Lyrics:

    fi hagat tet'hass we matet'alsh
    (There are things that are felt but are not spoken)
    win geet at'liubha
    (and if I tried to asked for them)
    ana ma'darsh
    (I can't)
    we law en'tamil
    (And if you did them)
    tahaba'ad am'ana at'lubha
    (after I asked for them)
    yib'a mayin'fash
    (then their meaning is useless)
    fi hagat tet'hass we matet'alsh
    (There are things that are felt that can't be said)
    tiwga3 fil alb
    (that hurt the heart)
    we ma matbansh
    (but we never let them show)
    waf'tal ala'tool
    (and I am always)
    ta'bana ma bin tab a'oulak wala ma'oulzksh
    (tired and torn between telling you or not)

    START CHORUS:


    ma adersh aoulek ghayar kol tariet hobek liya
    (I can't tell you to change the way you express your love to me)
    aw gher aliya wala fagetni mara wa hatli hedeya
    (or have some jealousy for me, or surprise me once and give me a gift)
    wala ayneya baamel haga ana mosh aarfaha
    (or that my eyes have experienced something I haven't done before)
    wala ayneya baamel haga ana mosh aarfaha
    (or that my eyes have experienced something I haven't done before)

    ma adersh aoulek hali el donia fi ayni ou ghayar fiya
    (I can't tell you to make the world a more beautiful place in my eyes and change things for me)
    law mahma kont orayeb meni ou kont orayeb liya
    (no matter how close you are from me or how close you are to me)
    ma adersh aoulek shakl hayatna eli ana ayzaha
    (I can't tell you the way I want our life to be)
    aaraf liwahdek shakl hayatna eli ana ayzaha
    (You should know how you want our life to be)

    END CHORUS

    awet beban eni sket
    (Sometimes...it appears...that I have stayed quiet)
    wehdit werdet wetaawet
    (and calmed down, felt okay, and became used to it)
    mosh maana kida enak ala tool tehsebni eni estaslemt
    (that doesn't mean that you should think I have given up)
    ou saat bethis eni zhet maa eni bakhabi eni taeebt
    (and sometimes, you feel that I have gotten bored of this...though I am hiding the tiredness)
    matwaselnish ya hbibi aoul
    (oh my darling, don't let me...reach to a stage where I'd say)
    da yaretni etkalemt
    (I wish I had spoken)

    CHORUS REPEATS:

    ma adersh aoulek ghayar kol tariet hobek liya
    (I can't tell you to change the way you express your love to me)
    aw gher aliya wala fagetni mara wa hatli hedeya
    (or have some jealousy for me, or surprise me once and give me a gift)
    wala ayneya baamel haga ana mosh aarfaha
    (or that my eyes have experienced something I haven't done before)
    wala ayneya baamel haga ana mosh aarfaha
    (or that my eyes have experienced something I haven't done before)

    ma adersh aoulek hali el donia fi ayni ou ghayar fiya
    (I can't tell you to make the world a more beautiful place in my eyes and change things for me)
    law mahma kont orayeb meni ou kont orayeb liya
    (no matter how close you are from me or how close you are to me)
    ma adersh aoulek shakl hayatna eli ana ayzaha
    (I can't tell you the way I want our life to be)
    aaraf liwahdek shakl hayatna eli ana ayzaha
    (You should know how you want our life to be)


    This is so true... And it is sad to see relationships that fall apart because the spouses can't understand the meaning behind things that are felt and aren't said...

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    Mar 20, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    and I hope you like the translations... I spent time doing that!

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    Mar 21, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    "There are things which are felt that are not said when in a relationship. Also, there are things that should be done without being asked to do them.
    In a gay relationship, this applies to both of you (Since both of you are men)."


    It's been quite the opposite in our humble experience. icon_wink.gif


    -us two
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    Mar 21, 2011 5:27 AM GMT
    meninlove said "There are things which are felt that are not said when in a relationship. Also, there are things that should be done without being asked to do them.
    In a gay relationship, this applies to both of you (Since both of you are men)."


    It's been quite the opposite in our humble experience. icon_wink.gif


    -us two


    Hey, as long as you guys are having a blast! icon_biggrin.gif

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    Mar 21, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    lol, thanks. We are.
    I think that communication on all levels is a dynamic we need in order to understand the workings of each other better. Just as there are our 'buttons' that can get pushed and make us mad, there are our buttons that trigger the best in us. Discovering them is wonderful.
    I have been able to tell Bill of the things he could do for me that I felt should be done instead of being asked for. He's done the same with me.


    Some of the most amazing moments in our history together have come about by explaining to each other things that were felt but not spoken of.


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    Mar 21, 2011 5:41 AM GMT
    I really like the song because it reflects another level of intimacy...
    I have experienced this which is why I relate to it. I mean, when I was with Jon, sometimes I felt that he felt it was his duty to be in a relationship with me because I helped him when he was struggling.

    I remember during the first four months of our relationship when we would go out by the lake for a walk and after get some desserts at a store called Dimitri's (check it out! it is awesome!). We would look over the menu together to decide what type of waffle we wanted that day. Then, we would order two of those waffles and deliberately ask the waiter to bring only one plate so we can both eat from it.

    One day, we went in together and when the waiter brought the menus, Jon didn't even look at me once to ask about what we were going to have together.

    He opened his menu, closed it and then just waited for the waiter to come. We ended up getting two different waffles and ate like we were just friends - not spouses.
    I thought maybe he had a bad day...

    Turns out I was wrong... because he did that everytime we went out.

    One example from the video:
    It was raining and in arabic culture, the man should cover the woman with his coat if it is raining (in this case, they were probably running late and didn't get the umbrella). In the video, he takes one look at his wife and instead of covering her, he covers himself and runs to the car. Now, little things like that can take on a big meaning to them.

    She obviously doesn't make a big deal out of it, and the lyrics show that she has no intention of making a big deal out of it.

    Later on, while they are at their child's concert, the man basically disregards his wife completely... while every other man is embracing their child's success through each other.

    Then, it comes to the point where he is basically walking with their child on his own and not beside his wife.

    The message I personally got from this is that he has lost interest in his wife.

    Relating it to gay society:

    Many men complain about how they lost interest in their spouse. Could it be because of these little things that end up breaking the relationship... these little hints that show whether or not someone is truly in love with their partner?
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    Mar 21, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ saidand I hope you like the translations... I spent time doing that!



    LOL really? It's a popular song, there are translations all over the internet icon_razz.gif

    It's a great song with a great message!! Never been in a relationship b4, but I can definitely feel it thru her song

    Can't believe it's at all those views!!!

    Too bad people are stuck on crap music here in the USA like Gaga, etc
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    Mar 21, 2011 5:51 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 said
    _Mohammed_ saidand I hope you like the translations... I spent time doing that!



    LOL really? It's a popular song, there are translations all over the internet icon_razz.gif

    It's a great song with a great message!! Never been in a relationship b4, but I can definitely feel it thru her song

    Can't believe it's at all those views!!!

    Too bad people are stuck on crap music here in the USA like Gaga, etc


    The translations that are all over the internet are full of errors.

    I think my version of the translation is more accurate.

    But I agree with you! It is popular icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 26, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    I loved the video. Really enjoyed the translation as well! Shukran jazeelan, habibi icon_wink.gif
    And I'm all for romanticism in relationships. I guess it depends on what people expect from each other. Some people wouldn't care at all about how many plates you eat waffles from, and some others would find that really important to measure the level of romance in their relation...
    So I guess, the remedy is to relax and enjoy each other's personalities above all...
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    Mar 26, 2011 1:24 PM GMT
    I'm watching it again, singing along this time around, thanks to your transliterationed translation icon_confused.gif

    LOL


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    Mar 26, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    Wow, she's drop dead gorgeous!