Tipping Etiquette around the World

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    Mar 23, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
    It's always something that I'm not entirely certain of so I have to ask when I travel to a less familiar country - and the thing is that it's not even consistent throughout Asia.

    Anyway, here's a good starting point/guide from mint.com if you're travelling:
    http://www.mint.com/blog/goals/tipping-abroad-03022011/?display=wide
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    Mar 23, 2011 7:35 PM GMT
    heh. when i was in Australia, i was told never to tip.. oops
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    Mar 23, 2011 10:35 PM GMT
    In German restaurants, gratuities are usually included in the menu price. However, German waiters and waitresses love American tourists due to their tipping habits. Germans will either round up to the nearest Euro, or add a little more, but nowhere near what tippers in the US do.
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    Personally I think it's rude to expect or require a tip and I feel like it's a shame that it has become entrenched as something that is expected in many businesses.
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    Here people tip 15% at least, and 20% when you have good service.
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    Culturally here in Mexico tipping is a way of life. Overtipping, even. Some may find it annoying to find a string of people in your daily goings about that work for tips, but if you know how to go about it you can tip a whole of bunch of people to make your life very easy. Which can be good or bad. You get used to not lifting a finger for pretty much anything when you go out for errands or for fun.
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    Majority of the time, the accepted tip amount is 15 % of the PRICE WITHOUT TAX INCLUDED in Ontario... up to 25 % if the server did their job extra well.

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    Mar 24, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    Anto saidPersonally I think it's rude to expect or require a tip and I feel like it's a shame that it has become entrenched as something that is expected in many businesses.


    You clearly have never waited tables before. In my experience, the company isn't paying you squat. The minimum wage goes towards taxes from sales. I never saw a cent from those checks.
    Of course if I get bad service and I just see my waiter goofing off in the corner I will tip a little less, but if they're busting the buts with a full section you should understand...they rely on your tips to make a living just keep that in mind.
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    At restaurants I prefer built-in gratuity for the simple reason that although there is an incentive for waiters / waitresses to provide excellent service (higher tips), there is no disincentive if they provide poor service. For example, in the OP's link it mentions that in the United States, waiters and waitresses should be tipped "no less than 10% for poor service".
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
    I believe 'tipping' is the same everywhere, culturally: either you have a tip or it remains under the foreskin...icon_redface.gif
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    Mar 24, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
    Im a server/bartender and i do occasional catering gigs. Our tips (at the restaurant) go anywhere from 10% to 30%. I find it usually goes by age, older folks don't tip much, unless they're with children or they've had kids in the service industry. Young people tip very well, either because they themselves work in the industry, or they have proper etiquette icon_wink.gif

    Servers in Ontario make 8.90 an hour, thats very good when compared to a state like New York where 4.60 is all thats required, or British Columbia, where it can be 6.00...

    I'm lucky living in Ontario, but everyone should tip, dont make a big deal of it either, figure its money already spent when u go out to eat, 15 percent at least.
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:03 AM GMT
    I don't tip richer people. Earnings in Brazil (and exchange rates) are such that American / European waiters are probably making more money than many Brazilian tourists.
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:36 AM GMT
    I used to bus and wait tables and I made it a rule never to expect a certain amount of tips. Biggest mistake anyone can make when working in a restaurant, a bar, or whatever is just that. You let your wok, personality, appearance and attitude speak for itself. You are doing a job that you fully knew that things might not go your way so when you don't get what's expected at the end of a shift just suck it up and press. If things aren't working out as you expected or needed then you always have the option of quitting.

    I personally don't like how they add on the 15% - 20% in your bill and then expect to get a tip from you. I think when they started doing that that's when people became lazy and just didn't care about how they performed in the biz. There is a big difference between bussers/waiters/servers of today then about 11 years ago.

    I fully understand a bussers/servers/waiters/barbacks situation but even knowing that I'm not tipping as a show of gratitude. I'm tipping them based off of their service which is their job and they know that. Some get tipped well while others just get tipped the minimum. I will say that I have never under tipped someone. That's just flat out rude and insulting and in all seriousness there are only two reasons that might happen to someone.

    1.) Did a horrible job and under tipping you will let you know it.
    Example. Leaving a dime as a tip when they had a $50 meal.
    In a case like this you'd be better off not tipping period.

    2.) The people you dealt with are just cheap as hell.

    In an case like that you would be better off not tipping at all.

  • metatextual

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    Mar 24, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    i think the best advice would be to tip especially well for those establishments one frequents on a regular basis and use reasonable judgement otherwise.

    Having worked in a kitchen, I tend to tip the average since it's usually only the servers who receive tips even when the tips are pooled between workers.
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:47 AM GMT
    bachian saidI don't tip richer people. Earnings in Brazil (and exchange rates) are such that American / European waiters are probably making more money than many Brazilian tourists.
    Then it is ridiculous of you to travel to the united states and eat in a restuarant. It's offensive to the wait staff. Even some tip is ebtter than no tip. Because they may earn, voerall, more than you, but their living expenses are probably higher as well.

    And waitstaff make like shit all. I worked in a restaurant during the olympics in downtown vancouver. I nearly killed some of the people. It was ina hotel, so we had a lot of foreign people comming. In russia, apaprently, it's not common to tip, as we were told. About a week in we started autograt, much to the chagrin of our regular guests. But we were earning less in tips than a normal week, because foreign people encer tip.

    I'm sorry, but you cannot expect me to bust my ass, bringing you everything, from a new fork to another dirnk, ata table of 12, while I juggle 6 other tables, and then not get mad when you don't leave a tip. It's ridiculous. Servers don't get raises, orbonuses, or even enough wage to pay basic bills, and they dont get paid this ebcause tips are where it comes in.
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    In the US, my understanding is that servers (our term for waiters/waitresses) get paid really low by the restaurant. Like $3 an hour sometimes. Tips are usually 15% - 20%.
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    I always tip really well, u gotta screw up bad to get a lousy tip from me, I've worked for tips, don't be cheap, if you can afford to go out and be waited on then you can afford to tip, if not stay home
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:59 AM GMT
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    Anto saidPersonally I think it's rude to expect or require a tip and I feel like it's a shame that it has become entrenched as something that is expected in many businesses.


    You clearly have never waited tables before. In my experience, the company isn't paying you squat. The minimum wage goes towards taxes from sales. I never saw a cent from those checks.
    Of course if I get bad service and I just see my waiter goofing off in the corner I will tip a little less, but if they're busting the buts with a full section you should understand...they rely on your tips to make a living just keep that in mind.


    I know that's part of the problem. All tipping does in that situation is encourage business to not treat their employees right. It's like enabling that kind of bad treatment. A person should give a tip because they want to like they are happy to do so but not because they feel like they have to lest they are a jerk or the server might not be able to financially support themselves.

    It's just strange, almost like tipping as it is today evolved from slavery or donations to the needy.
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    Johnnyhotsauce saidI always tip really well, u gotta screw up bad to get a lousy tip from me, I've worked for tips, don't be cheap, if you can afford to go out and be waited on then you can afford to tip, if not stay home


    It's not like they are going out of their way to help you, it's their job to do it. It's why they are there.
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:05 AM GMT
    Anto said
    Johnnyhotsauce saidI always tip really well, u gotta screw up bad to get a lousy tip from me, I've worked for tips, don't be cheap, if you can afford to go out and be waited on then you can afford to tip, if not stay home


    It's not like they are going out of their way to help you, it's their job to do it. It's why they are there.



    I have a feeling that in a tavern or club when you return to the bar for your second drink, the bartenders are not rushing to serve you.
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:19 AM GMT
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    I have a feeling that in a tavern or club when you return to the bar for your second drink, the bartenders are not rushing to serve you.


    On kind of a tangential note, I don't feel the need to tip the bartender at a club when I ask for water and have to pay $6 for a small water bottle from Costco. Fuck that. I already bought overpriced alcohol from you and I don't care if it's your job, I'm fucking dehydrated and if you can't spare a gush of tap water I'm not tipping you for a six fucking goddamn dollar bottle of 8 oz Costco water that your establishment paid 4 bucks for a case of 24..
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    HeartRobb said
    I have a feeling that in a tavern or club when you return to the bar for your second drink, the bartenders are not rushing to serve you.


    Why is that? See how tipping has evolved into holding a person hostage for proper service and proper etiquette?
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:27 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    HeartRobb said


    I have a feeling that in a tavern or club when you return to the bar for your second drink, the bartenders are not rushing to serve you.


    On kind of a tangential note, I don't feel the need to tip the bartender at a club when I ask for water and have to pay $6 for a small water bottle from Costco. Fuck that. I already bought overpriced alcohol from you and I don't care if it's your job, I'm fucking dehydrated and if you can't spare a gush of tap water I'm not tipping you for a six fucking goddamn dollar bottle of 8 oz Costco water that your establishment paid 4 bucks for a case of 24..


    I work as a bartender (2nd job) and I give water for free. I either direct them to the huge water container (it's see through) I have sitting on the bar filled with ice or use my dispenser. I've never been to a bar or a restaurant where I had to pay for water. If I ever do then I'm not going there again.

    On that note I make pretty good money and only work 3 days a week on my 2nd job. I get tipped based off of my service, quality of my drinks and common courtesy/social networking skills like chatting with the customers and enlightening them to having a good time. Same thing a server should be doing. LOL.
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    Like China, no tipping WHATSOEVER in Vietnam and Thailand either. Labor over there are soo cheap. People are seriously are too hard working over there.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 24, 2011 2:39 AM GMT
    Johnnyhotsauce saidI always tip really well, u gotta screw up bad to get a lousy tip from me, I've worked for tips, don't be cheap, if you can afford to go out and be waited on then you can afford to tip, if not stay home


    my thoughts exactly! i've actually argued with my parents when they refused to give more than 12% tip because "money's tight"...to which i responded with, "then what the hell are you doing eating at a restaurant?"