Gaga's BORN THIS WAY (2nd Version)

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    Mar 25, 2011 9:28 AM GMT
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    Mar 25, 2011 12:32 PM GMT
    Side note: what is the difference between "him" and "capital HIM?"
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    Mar 25, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
    Capital HIM is "Him", i.e. god. Just a non-sensical religious reference.

    I don't mind this remix. I like the versatility of her songs, such as the live performances from Poker Face that sounded showtune-y.
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    Mar 25, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
    one is a person, the other god
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    Mar 25, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    Very cool and different! I wonder how it will play in country circles?
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    Mar 25, 2011 1:31 PM GMT
    This one's actually co-produced by Gaga; she's promised a second video and a "stripped down" version of the song to go with it... EXCITED, can't wait for the vid icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 25, 2011 2:52 PM GMT
    If only I didn't hate this song. It's a great message, and not really that bad of a song. But all I hear are cash registers ringing as the LGBT community rushes out to purchase anything with LG's name on it. She has made far better music and this, IMO, was a cheap way to sell records. But that's just my opinion.
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    Mar 25, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    She performed at the Quest Center in Omaha on St. Patrick's day and did a piano version of this song. It was amazing, and kinda hauntingly beautiful. After her concert she did a surprize encore at the Max, complete with backup dancers--for free.
    Gotta love Gaga, she is a class act all around.

    Oh and she LOVES NEBRASKA BOYS icon_twisted.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 25, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
    samasaurusrex saidIf only I didn't hate this song. It's a great message, and not really that bad of a song. But all I hear are cash registers ringing as the LGBT community rushes out to purchase anything with LG's name on it. She has made far better music and this, IMO, was a cheap way to sell records. But that's just my opinion.

    I would agree with this, but Lady Gaga seems to be a very sincere person who truly just wants the best for the world.

    This is coming from someone who didn't like her until recently. Before I actually complained a lot about her, so I'm not exactly a die-hard fan or anything.
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    Mar 25, 2011 3:09 PM GMT
    Lady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.
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    Mar 25, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    SexyN3rd saidLady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.

    People treat her like any other popstar who has had their time in the limelight. I think her acoustic shows and live performances (radio, AOL, etc.) still very much reveal her "pre-fame" style. All her songs boil down to showtunes or rock ballads. They're just produced to suit the market, as all major label commerical music is.
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    Mar 25, 2011 9:14 PM GMT
    I don't really care for either version of this song. I'd much rather hear...

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    Mar 25, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
    SexyN3rd said
    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.


    I don't think it's fair to blame her -- 'disease' is a bit harsh. Some fans
    behave the way that some fans behave; it's been that way forever. Have you
    ever seen old footage of Elvis Presley fans freaking out? Beatlemania? Same
    thing. If there were no Lady Gaga, those fans would (and someday will) find
    the next big pop star and behave just the same.

    Now, I'm not a big fan of her music, and I don't care about her personal life.
    But I will say this: she has done more lately for my civil rights than I have.
    And that makes her a-okay in my book. Let's let her keep doing her thing.
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    Mar 25, 2011 10:53 PM GMT
    kandsk said
    SexyN3rd saidLady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.

    People treat her like any other popstar who has had their time in the limelight. I think her acoustic shows and live performances (radio, AOL, etc.) still very much reveal her "pre-fame" style. All her songs boil down to showtunes or rock ballads. They're just produced to suit the market, as all major label commerical music is.


    I've never seen people treat a pop star they way Gaga is treated. She's put onto a pedestal of being unable to do wrong and if you try to critique her, you get a million and one hate messages. I mean I had death threats from her "fans" when I commented on her Born This Way video saying it didn't make sense and "just because you can act crazy doesn't mean you should." I mean I comment on a Britney or Christina video at the heights of their careers and I would have NEVER gotten that.

    But back to the country road version of BTW, it's another showing of doing something for the sake of doing it. It won't get country airplay since it is still heavily homophobic and slightly racist. I mean has there been a successful black country artist yet? So at the very least, the song's message is great, I just want to see the acoustic version to see if it will actually be better.
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    Mar 26, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    SexyN3rd saidLady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.


    You know, social movements for gay liberation in the beginning of the 20th century never really worked before the Stonewall riots of 1969 got on TV. The main goal of any social movement (black, gays, antiwar) in the United States in the 1960's was actually to GET on TV, to be spoken of by the media, because it was and still is the only way to change things.

    Today, more than ever, the public opinion is not in politics, it's on TV, on Youtube, on Facebook and Twitter. If you wanna make something move, you need to mediatize it. Lady Gaga understood this by making her career all media, and now that she's on top, she uses this "notoriety" to bring social messages on TV.

    The DADT issue was largely mediatize, and that's in part because of Lady Gaga. If no one had shout that loud on the world wide web, I'm not sure if things would've got to the actual point that fast.
  • disasterpiece

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    Mar 26, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    Oh by the way, I really like this version (even better than the first one), but I would've liked her to "country-cize" the chorus too.

    Country is not really my thing, but that was cool.

    And I'm really looking forward her next single, Judas.
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    Mar 26, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    Acoustic live at the concert:
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    Mar 26, 2011 1:05 AM GMT
    I dig the new version. I doubt it'll get country radio play time, but I also didn't hear her on our 'soccer mom' station until Born this Way took off.

    SexyN3rd saidLady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.


    But that's the point. She's a student of pop culture. Warhol, Bowie, and Madonna, specifically. They all manipulated the media, and created social characters MUCH larger than life, and in turn carved their own image in the fame totem.

    As far as her music, it's pretty fucking impressive when you look at it critically. She's one hell of a key player, and while her song writing is highly formulamatic, she's great with melody and harmony.

    Now, if you're going off of personal taste, and not actually judging her compositions... that's something else entirely.

    BTW, I hated her up until last year until I actually gave her a listen.
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    Mar 26, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
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    kandsk said
    SexyN3rd saidLady Gaga is all media.

    You can find a video of her pre-fame on "The Boiling Point". She's actually a brunette, and a bitch, who makes shitty music.

    She brings light to the gay culture, but lots of people do... she's just televised. I personally feel like she's more of a disease, gay people everywhere, and straight people, flock to her, call her names like 'momma monster'. They constantly talk about what she's doing, her life, what they think she thinks.... as if her personal life was on stage, and she cared. It's a little sickening.

    People treat her like any other popstar who has had their time in the limelight. I think her acoustic shows and live performances (radio, AOL, etc.) still very much reveal her "pre-fame" style. All her songs boil down to showtunes or rock ballads. They're just produced to suit the market, as all major label commerical music is.


    I've never seen people treat a pop star they way Gaga is treated. She's put onto a pedestal of being unable to do wrong and if you try to critique her, you get a million and one hate messages. I mean I had death threats from her "fans" when I commented on her Born This Way video saying it didn't make sense and "just because you can act crazy doesn't mean you should." I mean I comment on a Britney or Christina video at the heights of their careers and I would have NEVER gotten that.

    But back to the country road version of BTW, it's another showing of doing something for the sake of doing it. It won't get country airplay since it is still heavily homophobic and slightly racist. I mean has there been a successful black country artist yet? So at the very least, the song's message is great, I just want to see the acoustic version to see if it will actually be better.


    I agree that Gaga fans and haters are highly polarized, but the behaviour you are referring to is called "stanning", and stans, the hyperactive and irrational fans, exist as much for Madonna, Kylie, Britney, Beyonce, etc. It just doesn't crossover from pop music forums so often.
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    Mar 28, 2011 12:13 AM GMT
    Gaga's fucking AWESOME, and those who say otherwise are "FULL OF SHIT"... icon_razz.gif

    Seriously though, just give her a listen before saying she's fake... or that she uses gays. I only started paying attention to her after watching one of her interviews (and Bad Romance), she has quite a few things to share.



    (my fave is the show studio interview, but oh well...)
  • disasterpiece

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    Apr 06, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
    She's selling the song on iTunes now, and part of the profits are going to the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). She's really literraly forcing people to recognize her as a truly special and devoted artist. Two years ago, I would've just rolled on the floor laughing about thinking I would some daypost something like this about what looked like an over-commercialized generic white blond pop-start.



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    Being Released to Benefit Charity | News

    SANTA MONICA, CA – April 4th, 2011 – The country version of Lady Gaga's smash hit “Born This Way” has become such a viral sensation since being released through her Twitter page that she has decided to officially issue the track for sale on April 5th with a portion of the proceeds to benefit charity. The “Born This Way – Country Road Version”, produced by Lady Gaga and Fernando Garibay, was recently recorded while on tour and features new Lady Gaga vocals and added guitar and harmonica. First released March 24th as a gift to her fans (she has become the first person on Twitter with 9,000,000 followers), overwhelming praise for the recording--marked by over 1,000,000 YouTube views in it's first few days of release--has prompted Lady Gaga to release the track officially, with Lady Gaga, her record label, and her publisher donating a portion of the proceeds from sales of the track to benefit the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). The original version of “Born This Way” spent six consecutive weeks at 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, starting with its debut February 11th. The fastest song in history to reach sales of 1,000,000 copies, “Born This Way” is the first single and title track to Lady Gaga’s hotly anticipated upcoming third album, Born This Way, scheduled for release on May 23rd. About GLSEN Founded in 1990, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (gslen.org) strives to assure that each member of every school community is valued and respected regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. GLSEN seeks to develop school climates where difference is valued for the positive contribution it makes in creating a more vibrant and diverse community.
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    Apr 06, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
    CHIdude saidSide note: what is the difference between "him" and "capital HIM?"


    I thought it was H.I.M. as in the rock band but maybe not but I like it more than the original to be honest...
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    Apr 06, 2011 9:25 PM GMT
    When I first heard this song I was like, "Well … I mean … it's OKAY." Immediately followed by, "I can't wait to see what people do with it." It really is less of a song and more of a template. Which is kind of genius. It's like when Apple made the iPad and was like, "I have no idea what this is going to be used for, but … we're going to make it and see what you crazy bastards come up with."

    Power to the people ... interactive digital media. I mean, is it a little lazy? Sure. But it's brilliantly constructed? Absolutely.

    Props to Gaga. I ragged on her too until I started listening to her interviews and seeing live stuff, including acoustic sessions. Girl is amazingly talented.