Why Intelligent People Use More Drugs

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    Mar 25, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

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    People – scientists and civilians alike – often associate intelligence with positive life outcomes. The fact that more intelligent individuals are more likely to consume alcohol, tobacco, and psychoactive drugs tampers this universally positive view of intelligence and intelligent individuals. Intelligent people don’t always do the right thing, only the evolutionarily novel thing.
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    Mar 25, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    It's not surprising to me. Smart and creative people have always been associated with drug use. I think it has to do with the extra sensitivity and ability (or habit) of thinking of what can go wrong.
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    Mar 25, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    Statistics can be made to show anything.

    For example, they show the "Very Dull" as lowest users by a huge margin. But did anybody consider that "Very Dull" drug users are more likely to get arrested...leaving a higher percentage of non drug using Dullards available to take this stupid survey? This would invalidate the results of the survey. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Conversely, intelligent people are least likely to get arrested, skewing their available numbers up. There are millions of drug users in jail...and I don't think they're doctors and moguls.
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    Mar 25, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidStatistics can be made to show anything.

    For example, they show the "Very Dull" as lowest users by a huge margin. But, did anybody consider that "Very Dull" drug users are more likely to get arrested, and didn't take the survey because they're in jail? This would invalidate the results of the survey. icon_rolleyes.gif

    There are millions of drug users in jail...and I don't think they're doctors and moguls.


    In some cases, but that's why it's important that studies can be repeated. That being said, I don't think your concerns are necessarily valid. Per the article: "The data come from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. The childhood intelligence is measured in junior high and high school, and the adult drug consumption is measured seven years later, and constructed from indicators for the consumption of 5 different types of psychoactive drugs (marijuana, cocaine, LSD, crystal meth, and heroin)." Further, moguls are not necessarily highly intelligent at least those I've met. In fact, I do wonder if there's a negative correlation / diminishing level of returns after a certain say IQ score given the importance of more qualitative measures like resilience and perseverance to success.
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    Mar 25, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    You don't mention how they contacted these people.

    It sounds like they surveyed students 7 years after graduation, then went back and got their school intelligence tests. Fine. But if some drug users were in jail on drug convictions, or dead...they weren't available to take the survey. That will skew the results. A reasonable person would conclude the duller a person, the more likely they are to end up dead or in jail from drugs.

    The actual distribution might be anything...as this survey tells me nothing.
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    Mar 25, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidYou don't mention how they contacted these people.

    It sounds like they surveyed students 7 years after graduation, then went back and got their school intelligence tests. Fine. But if some drug users were in jail on drug convictions, or dead...they weren't available to take the survey. That will skew the results. A reasonable person would conclude the duller a person, the more likely they are to end up dead or in jail from drugs.

    The actual distribution might be anything...as this survey tells me nothing.


    It may tell you nothing (and your scenario seems unlikely simply because of how consistent the trend appears to be in the relationship between intelligence and drug usage), but in the absence of alternative evidence, in the very least it does make this statement likely true: "Intelligent people don’t always do the right thing, only the evolutionarily novel thing."
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    Mar 25, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
    riddler78 said It may tell you nothing (and your scenario seems unlikely simply because of how consistent the trend appears to be in the relationship between intelligence and drug usage), but in the absence of alternative evidence, in the very least it does make this statement likely true: "Intelligent people don’t always do the right thing, only the evolutionarily novel thing."


    My point is that surveys are always suspect, if not worthless.

    My industry uses a well known marketing research company. They will sell your company an award by designing a survey where you come out as the #1 choice over your competitors.

    The title is meant to sell magazines. Intelligent people probably feel guilty about using drugs. Their genetic makeup gave them a powerful brain, but they needlessly kill off brain cells with pot, cocaine, etc. So, now at least they feel a little less responsible for their choices.