Seal Hunt Begins Sunday

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    Mar 25, 2011 11:37 PM GMT

    Harp seal quota set at 400,000 off east coast, prompting anti hunt outrage

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    Paul McCartney and his now ex-wife Heather pose with a seal pup on the ice floes off Iles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St.Lawrence, Thursday March 2, 2006, as part of a high-profile protest against Canadas annual seal hunt.

    Published on March 25, 2011

    The harp seal quota for the hunt this spring off Canada's east coast has been set at 400,000 animals.

    The total allowable catch set by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans for hooded seals is 8,200, which includes some of the quota rolled over from last year.

    Frank Pinhorn of the Canadian Sealers Association says it expects an improvement in markets this year allowing for the sale of up to 120,000 pelts, almost double the number sold last year.

    Rebecca Aldworth of Humane Society International calls the hunt irresponsible, claiming that this year's numbers are the highest since quota management was introduced in 1971.

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    The annual harp seal hunt is about to begin.

    Department of Fisheries and Oceans announced Friday the hunt will start Sunday at 6 a.m. for all sealers from the Gulf, Maritimes and Magdelan Islands.

    There will be three buffer zones around the coast of New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.

    The DFO said most of the activity will likely take place between North Cape, P.E.I. and Miscou Island, New Brunswick.

    About ten boats from the Magdelan Islands are expected to take part in the hunt.

    [b]Only one P.E.I. boat has expressed an interest in the hunt
    so far.

    The Northwest Atlantic harp seal population is estimated at nine million animals, more than four times what it was in the 1970s. In 2010, 67,327 harp seals were harvested

    DFO officials say there isn't a lot of ice so many seal pups are appearing on shorelines, but there will be no hunting on land.

    DFO said hunting has to take place a few kilometres off shore.


    Note - hunting seal pups( "white-coats") is strictly forbidden and the pelts are unsellable.


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    Mar 26, 2011 5:43 AM GMT
    A rogue harp seal wiped out my entire family. I have made it my life's mission to wipe out every one of those murderous beasts!
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    Mar 26, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    Posing with a baby seal is misleading in a way that amounts to a blatant lie. Not only is it illegal to hunt them, it has been since the late seventies. As was pointed out in the original post, there isn't even a market for white-coat pelts.

    I understand some peoples' aversion to the seal hunt. I'm an animal lover and I particularly hate to see intelligent marine mammals killed. But as a sane and rational individual I have the good sense to educate myself and make judgements based on reality.

    How we treat beef, poultry and other livestock is truly inhumane, and truly something to get upset about. Sir Paul and his crackpot ex-wife are campaigning against the seal hunt because it is easy for them. Posing next to a cute little baby seal makes for great publicity and, I guess, allows them to feel like they're "making a difference in the world," or some bullshit like that. It's also easier to take on a relatively small industry instead of the huge, entrenched interests that treat livestock inhumanely.

    This kind of stuff drives me crazy. I still love "band on the run," though... damn you Sir Paul!!
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 26, 2011 6:37 AM GMT
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    Bag 'em and tag 'em. icon_wink.gif

    I actually saw a full-bird Colonel Navy Seal earlier this weak. Awesome!
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    Mar 26, 2011 7:02 AM GMT
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  • barriehomeboy

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    Mar 26, 2011 7:05 AM GMT
    Did you eat meat today? Or plants? They all died so you could stay alive. Get over it.
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    Mar 26, 2011 6:16 PM GMT
    I like the word "eat" in that post because, although the activists often lie about this fact too, seal meat is eaten. Thank you Barriehomeboy icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 26, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    Vigorousinfact saidI like the word "eat" in that post because, although the activists often lie about this fact too, seal meat is eaten. Thank you Barriehomeboy icon_smile.gif


    I've actually gotten some canned seal meat from a local Newfie store, and it was pretty good, albeit a little fatty.
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    Mar 26, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    Mccartney's a vegetarian so I guess it's fair that he protests any kind of hunting or animal death. But quantitatively I would say that there is way more suffering in agriculture. And there's the issue of too few predators of seals and overfishing of their food.
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    Mar 26, 2011 7:09 PM GMT
    The McArneys, Danny Williams on Larry King
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    Mar 26, 2011 7:40 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]pre_mortem said[/cite]Mccartney's a vegetarian so I guess it's fair that he protests any kind of hunting or animal death. But quantitatively I would say that there is way more suffering in agriculture. And there's the issue of too few predators of seals and overfishing of their food.[/quote]

    Not true. Polar Bears, Arctic wolves, killer whales, and sharks are all predators of seals. They are like rabbits of the ocean.

    I am a vegetarian, but the thing is this when it comes to hunting (btw, I have been hunting a couple of times)

    "The problem though is when humans start to destroy these numbers of seals as well. When that occurs, not only do they threaten the future survival of these animals. They are also threatening the survival of those other animals that depend on them as a food source."

    If they hunt seals a couple of times a year, go for it.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Mar 26, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidDid you eat meat today? Or plants? They all died so you could stay alive. Get over it.


    First off I am a meat eater, so there is no agenda here. But do we need meat to "stay alive"?
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    Mar 26, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    i wanna keep one as a pet. they're cute animals...when they're small
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    Mar 26, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    @ Balljunkie

    The seals that we're talking about here do have very few predators. Their main predator is the Polar Bear; Arctic Wolves do eat seals sometimes but not all that often, there are virtually no killer whales using this particular population as a food source because killer whales are very rare in the North Atlantic, and there are literally no sharks that hunt this particular seal population (although you are right that that does happen in other parts of the world.) There are very few Polar Bears left to hunt seals as well; Polar Bears are endangered.

    On top of that, seals eat a lot of Cod. Cod populations off the coast of Atlantic Canada were nearly wiped out in the early nineties due to decades of overfishing and there was a moratorium placed on the general fishery in 1992 so that stocks would recover. This general moratorium remains in place today (although very limited "food fisheries" are allowed from time to time.) The seal population that migrates seasonally to the gulf of St. Lawrence has grown substantially over the last few decades and many biologists who study the region do warn that the population is getting large enough to threaten the continued recovery of Cod stocks.

    Harp and Hood seals are in no way a threatened species and the natural predators of these seals are not suffering from a lack of prey.
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    /potential tasteless joke/

    I totally want to open a club... "Club Baby Seal". With a twist on the Bloody Mary called "The Bludgeoned Seal", served with a side of Seal Sashimi. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    alphatrigger said/potential tasteless joke/

    I totally want to open a club... "Club Baby Seal". With a twist on the Bloody Mary called "The Bludgeoned Seal", served with a side of Seal Sashimi. icon_biggrin.gif


    bahahahaha... yum....
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    sdgman saidA rogue harp seal wiped out my entire family. I have made it my life's mission to wipe out every one of those murderous beasts!


    Like this one?
    I have nightmares about it icon_sad.gif

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    Mar 28, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidDid you eat meat today? Or plants? They all died so you could stay alive. Get over it.


    Part of seal meat from hunts do get process but most seals are hunted mainly for pelts and oil.
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    Vigorousinfact saidPosing with a baby seal is misleading in a way that amounts to a blatant lie. Not only is it illegal to hunt them, it has been since the late seventies. As was pointed out in the original post, there isn't even a market for white-coat pelts.

    I understand some peoples' aversion to the seal hunt. I'm an animal lover and I particularly hate to see intelligent marine mammals killed. But as a sane and rational individual I have the good sense to educate myself and make judgements based on reality.

    How we treat beef, poultry and other livestock is truly inhumane, and truly something to get upset about. Sir Paul and his crackpot ex-wife are campaigning against the seal hunt because it is easy for them. Posing next to a cute little baby seal makes for great publicity and, I guess, allows them to feel like they're "making a difference in the world," or some bullshit like that. It's also easier to take on a relatively small industry instead of the huge, entrenched interests that treat livestock inhumanely.

    This kind of stuff drives me crazy. I still love "band on the run," though... damn you Sir Paul!!



    Of course Linda and Paul had a frozen dinner line exactly to challenge the status quo of eating meat made from mistreated and slaughtered animals. It's very difficult to change anyone's mind by saying "You're a horrible person to be eating that meat" and it's much easier and worthwhile to just say "Hey, try some veggie choices, you don't need to eat meat".

    Also, I've seen Paul and Linda pose with lambs and cows. They had a daughter grow up to be the most successful "no animal by-products" designer and clothes manufacturer to date.

    No effing wonder animal rights activists can't organize, we spend so much of our time taking each other down and criticizing each other it's ridiculous. I almost feel ostracized going to a vegetarian event because I eat cheese. Yeah, I know, I'm a horrible person. I get it.