How Not To Talk

  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 27, 2011 7:15 AM GMT
    Some of you may know that I "threatened" to start a thread on How Not To Talk. My idea was prompted by this video/thread:



    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1457026#117483_1457238_name

    Dude, breathe! Put some bass in your voice and chill.
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    So who has other examples? I'm sure there are many.

    Post an example and provide some "advice" on how to improve from your example.
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 27, 2011 8:21 AM GMT
    More so on how he talks. I don't think he normally talks like that, but he's just doing it for effect....drama. That's really annoying.


    It's like when a group of high schoolers, or recent high school grads, get together and intentionally talk loudly so that people are forced to pay attention to them. I can't stand that either! Obnoxious.
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    Mar 27, 2011 8:32 AM GMT
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  • dugandaniel

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    Mar 27, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
    yeah, ive come to the realization that the power couples i admired ten years ago will have no place in the future. the manly homosexual is a dying breed sadly.
    whats funny is that the reason ive been given to 3 seperate times is that these little girly boys think they are being unique. somehow, they believe they are opposite the stereotypical gay male. they believe that all gay men are seen as muscle guys who party on drugs and dance with their shirts off.

    ok, well............
    ive never thought of that as stereotypical gay, but if so ROCK OUT
    why WOULDN'T you wanna be that? lol

    they have no idea that i, and many of the people i know, see all fem boys under 25 as the same person.... INVISIBLE or UNATTRACTIVE

    i wanna know what the "hot" guy from this younger generation is gonna look like. maybe they wont have one
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:23 PM GMT
    He stitched his video clips to make it sound like he's talking 1,000 words a minute. Other than that, I did not really find his talking annoying or obnoxious .. because he wanted to say his stance and did not want it to drag on for more than two minutes.

    These are just stances on issues/subjects. Sorta like writing an argumentative paper, minus the longevity of examples and details. Entertaining at best. I chuckled. icon_lol.gif

    Honestly, would you want this person to drag on 10 minutes to talk about said subjects? Or would you prefer a slow-talker that would bore you for ten minutes?
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
    Live and let live. Simple as that.
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:29 PM GMT
    Boring
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    Coolarmydude is right. The kid should shut up

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    Mar 27, 2011 3:15 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidSome of you may know that I "threatened" to start a thread on How Not To Talk. My idea was prompted by this video/thread:



    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1457026#117483_1457238_name

    Dude, breathe! Put some bass in your voice and chill.
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    So who has other examples? I'm sure there are many.

    Post an example and provide some "advice" on how to improve from your example.



    I find his voice and mannerisms to be annoying and the reason there is a "stereotype" of gay speaking, although, I found his words to be clearly enunciated.
    His topic is INANE,and lends even more to the gay stereotype....I do appreciate his PASSION for the topic, but the topic is ridiculous... I understand that everyone has a personal opinion and style of public speaking and presentation.....but if you expect to be taken seriously.....pick a topic and use a less frantic sounding speaking cadence, breathe a bit, cut the gesticulation to a minimum.....I would offer as example, any number of major network reporters, such as Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow,even some of the "Faux News" crew....
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    Mar 27, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidCoolarmydude is right. The kid should shut up


    JESUS! Never mind the original topic, it was all worth it just to see this!! Is it actually real? I think I would have seen it on youtube by now otherwise.

    Oh yeah, but on topic - the kid is a bit annoying, he may make a point, but I thought the song was more for the gays than anybody else, considering who she is, no? Anyway - I did find him annoying, he didnt leave enough frames between his clips - and I would have taken him a bit more seriously had he said it all in one go without having to "stitch" the clips together... somebody who truly knows what they are saying doesnt need to stop and go "ok, what were my other points again?"
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    Mar 27, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
    I found that after about 5 seconds I really, realllllly didn't care about anything he had to say so I shut it off.
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    Mar 27, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
    Like there are not people in the Army who talk like this????

    He just talks fast to because of the video.

    There is nothing wrong with the way he talks.

    Stop judging people. That is not cool. CAD.

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    Mar 27, 2011 4:44 PM GMT
    The voice is an extremely intricate instrument. The only way our brain can recognize differences between speakers is through harmonic content; exactly like telling the difference between a piano vs. a violin.

    You could high pass filter any two speakers and they will sound relatively identical. Cochlear implants do this exact thing. Speech is speech.

    The 'gay' speech is varied due to prosodic cues. It can easily be fixed with voice therapy. I'm down for that. We all as human beings should speak exactly the same. *sarcasm

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    Mar 27, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    A grown man making fun of some 19 year old kid on YouTube? Really?

    That's his normal voice.

    The reason he's talking fast is he's in "ranting" mode so his speech speeds up, just like the Maddow does and especially the Newshour guys. Or maybe he talks fast normally. Who really cares in the first place?

    The topic of Lady Gaga is probably for getting more views as this country is obsessed with celebrity. Barely anyone would watch his videos if he went on a rant about Noam Chompskys latest book.

    Telling him not to talk like this is like going to the deep south and telling them they shouldn't talk in a southern accent, they should talk in a proper English accent.icon_rolleyes.gif

    Or telling a jock to act more nerdy. They are who they are..

    I know some guys on here who aren't sure of what to make of more "stereotypical" gay guys but just be who you are and let them be too. Jeez, ignorance and insecurities aren't reason to make fun of other people- they're a signal to work on yourself as a person.

    And as for "representing the gay community in a stereotypical way" there will always be people who are homophobic no matter how manly a gay guy is. We already have enough internalized homophobia and crap from others within our community.

    Some guys speak with a stereotypical "gay voice" and some don't. It would be a boring world if everyone spoke with the same voice and acted exactly the same. Just, live and let live.
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    I don't think there's anything wrong with that video, and I actually find this topic offensive.

    You know what fucking sucks? The other day a straight guy was making fun of my voice. He was like "Why can't gay people talk normally? They don't use their real voice BECAUTHE THEY TALK LIEK THITH" and I was actually forcing my voice to be the least gay it could possibly be when I replied "This is my real voice."
    He didn't believe me and the argument went on for about 5 minutes until I simply walked out.

    It's extremely upsetting to think that within the gay community we have people who think such ignorant thoughts against their own people.
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    Somerandom saidAnyway - I did find him annoying, he didnt leave enough frames between his clips - and I would have taken him a bit more seriously had he said it all in one go without having to "stitch" the clips together... somebody who truly knows what they are saying doesnt need to stop and go "ok, what were my other points again?"

    Unless you're like me and have a terrible memory for everything and will forever need a couple of cue cards to make a presentation on anything.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Mar 27, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidSome of you may know that I "threatened" to start a thread on How Not To Talk. My idea was prompted by this video/thread:



    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1457026#117483_1457238_name

    Dude, breathe! Put some bass in your voice and chill.
    -----------------------------------
    So who has other examples? I'm sure there are many.

    Post an example and provide some "advice" on how to improve from your example.


    REALLY?? REALLY?? You use this video? When there are hundreds of other guys who talk 100x worse than that!!! I don't like feminine much and this guy didn't annoy me at all. He seemed normal to me icon_razz.gif

    Dude, dont talk like dis cuz then ya sound stupid bro
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidMore so on how he talks. I don't think he normally talks like that, but he's just doing it for effect....drama. That's really annoying.

    It's like when a group of high schoolers, or recent high school grads, get together and intentionally talk loudly so that people are forced to pay attention to them. I can't stand that either! Obnoxious.

    Some people just have loud voices. I have a very loud voice in general, even when I'm trying to talk to a single person in a room with my "indoor voice" if the room isn't packed with noise everyone else can hear me.

    When I'm with a group of friends talking and joking around we can get pretty excited and be loud, but we're not doing it on purpose; we're doing it because we can't hear ourselves from the outside so we don't realize that other people are perceiving it as obnoxious.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Mar 27, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
    You all should make an audio of yourselves speaking
    Then we can critique your voices icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:45 PM GMT
    Ehanson said

    Some guys speak with a stereotypical "gay voice" and some don't. It would be a boring world if every spoke with the same voice. Just, live and let live.


    Exactly.
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidYou all should make an audio of yourselves speaking
    Then we can critique your voices icon_razz.gif

    omg i totally wanna make a topic about that lmfao
  • gsh1964

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    Mar 27, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    I find nothing wrong with the way he talks. He's a beautiful, smart young man and I hope his mom is proud of him for voicing his opinion and for being who he is.

    However, I do find it annoying when gay guys try to change and deepen their voice to try and be more masculine.

    Be yourself, love yourself and others for who they are. If you have a deep masculine voice, Great!! If you talk with a lisp, Great!! So what!!

    My question is why do we have prejudices within' our own community?

    We are so busy wanting others to accept us, as we are. We don't accept others within' our own community who don't fit within' a certain mold.

    Our community is about diversity and accepting ourselves and others.

    Y'all need to get over this masculine, feminine bullshit.... just sayin'
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidMore so on how he talks. I don't think he normally talks like that, but he's just doing it for effect....drama. That's really annoying.


    It's like when a group of high schoolers, or recent high school grads, get together and intentionally talk loudly so that people are forced to pay attention to them. I can't stand that either! Obnoxious.


    I do not recall at the moment the name of the movie, I think it was CASANOVA BROWN (1944). It's not a direct quote, but I believe it was Frank Morgan's character who said in one scene, Shouting is the sign of a weak mind straining to be heard.
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    PE_Teacher saidLive and let live. Simple as that.


    I agree, even though I firmly believe that your sexuality shouldn't determine your personality. This wasn't the most extreme example I've seen... I don't remember seeing a wrist snap once from him.
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    Mar 27, 2011 5:57 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidCoolarmydude is right. The kid should shut up




    Wow.....icon_lol.gif


    And the kid was ranting...