Why are we gay?

  • Jexxo

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    Mar 27, 2011 8:44 AM GMT
    I was wondering what you guys think makes us gay (apart from fancying other men ;)).

    Some people say there's a gay gene, but this hasn't been found. Others say it's a chemical imbalance in the brain and some say it's a choice.

    what do you think?
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    Mar 27, 2011 10:33 AM GMT
    Your brain's sexual attraction is dyslexic.
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:29 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidYour brain's sexual attraction is dyslexic.


    haha. good one. i think this may have been a prevailing theory back in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

    OP: my instincts are that in order to bake a gay you need a cup of genetics and a tablespoon of environment. adding even a pinch of choice destroys the batch.
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:38 PM GMT
    Hormone exposure in the womb and psychosocial conditioning.
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
    kandsk saidHormone exposure in the womb and psychosocial conditioning.


    I highly doubt the last one... there's just not a shred of evidence.
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:42 PM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    kandsk saidHormone exposure in the womb and psychosocial conditioning.


    I highly doubt the last one... there's just not a shred of evidence.


    The psychosocial conditioning certainly makes heterosexual men in America homophobic, but I don't think it makes one homosexual.
  • KissTheSky

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    Mar 27, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    I'm not dissing the original poster, but it annoys me that the media always runs these stories with a subtext that being gay is a disease that could be cured if only the cause could be determined.
    What about all the grief that straight people cause in the world? (Rape, unwanted pregnancy, abortion, overpopulation.) Does anyone ever run stories about "What makes people straight?"
    Oh, if only we could find a cure for heterosexuality! icon_surprised.gif

  • BoostToChase

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    Mar 27, 2011 12:55 PM GMT
    I hope science never conclusively finds out.

    I was at an anti-abortion rally on OSU campus and took the time to ask the ring leader his thoughts on gay adoption. A few minutes into the conversation he said that while he disagrees with the "gay-choice," (I bit my tongue), he said that gay people should hope a gene is never found. How many parents would abort their child knowing they would end up gay? The anti-abortion campaign was distasteful using images of hitler and aborted fetuses, but it seems to him that god loves gays more than abortionists.

    *shrug*

    I have no idea what it is. Some people say they knew since a very young age which leads me to believe genetic disposition. Some people say they actually shifted before, throughout, and after puberty which leads me to believe hormone and social contributions.
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:58 PM GMT
    Some men allow women to seduce them, take advantage of them, and are overall generally pussy-whooped.
    Gays are smarter than that.
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    Mar 27, 2011 1:24 PM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    kandsk saidHormone exposure in the womb and psychosocial conditioning.


    I highly doubt the last one... there's just not a shred of evidence.


    Hmm... Okay, I had to rethink why I put that down in the first place. I follow the line that both heteros and homos would be towards the bisexual zone of the continuum if they were free from any environmental pressure to be one or the other. So I'm absolutely not proposing that psychosocial conditioning would cause someone to be gay who might have otherwise been straight, just that they might otherwise be a bit more bisexual. I got the idea from "The Sexual Spectrum".

    http://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Spectrum-Why-Were-Different/dp/1551929805
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    Mar 27, 2011 1:34 PM GMT
    LOL I dunno. What makes you a boy? Was it a choice?
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    Mar 27, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
    we all grew up with bad dad's icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • xtratall

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    Mar 27, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    i think some guys just like cock SOOOOO much they end up going gay for it.
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    Mar 27, 2011 1:43 PM GMT
    nature + cock is tasty.
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
    Being gay ? It just happens !!! When it happens to an individual they realize it at verying stages of life and there is very little choice but to go with it, woe to the person who tries to fight it, because its as the bible toaters quote, "can a leapard change its spots or a zebra his stipes", so you cannot change what is.

    Growing up and coming to maturity during the era of the 1950's to the early 1970's in a religious University town certainly had me in a conflicted 'coming of age' scenario, so for me it was a long time coming to the above.

    I will add that I had a similar story to many gays though, with my early home life. My father was never home, nor spent any time with me during the first 5 years of life, he was either working overtime or at the bar drinking, He stopped all that, fortunately, but with my distaste for sports early in life we didn't get along at all, if he saw me drawing for instance he'd make me quit and wouldn't have me taking music lessons. All this aside I remember being attracted to guys as young as 7 or 8 years old, I still think though that we're born gay, even though my early environment is typical of most gays with a poor father son relationship, I don't believe its the cause.
  • BoostToChase

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    Mar 27, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    My dad was my soccer coach. I built small pieces of furniture as a kid. I worked with him doing construction on homes in my teens. I went fishing with my grandpa.

    Those are the reasons I am athletic. Those are the reasons I like technical skills. Probably not the reasons why I like the cock. icon_lol.gif
  • ursa_minor

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    Mar 27, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    we are an advanced race...eventually we will evolve to grow our own uterus
  • tazzari

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    Mar 27, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    Why does it matter? Aside from curiosity - and admirable attribute - even asking the question seems to imply that a) being gay is somehow bad or not "normal" (whatever that is!) and b) that you can't just be who you are.
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidI hope science never conclusively finds out.


    I have a big problem with this statement...as a gay man I would like to know why I am this way and I would like science to tell me! Scientific knowledge and advancement should never be held back by someone's agenda.
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:42 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidMy dad was my soccer coach. I built small pieces of furniture as a kid. I worked with him doing construction on homes in my teens. I went fishing with my grandpa.

    Those are the reasons I am athletic. Those are the reasons I like technical skills. Probably not the reasons why I like the cock. icon_lol.gif


    +1

    this is what i have come to learn about myself. i have my likes/dislikes/abilities/personality traits, one of which is being bisexual. being bi doesn't dictate my likes/dislike/abilities/personality traits at all (other than sexual ones, of course)

    anway, just really liked this post.
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    Mar 27, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    Buckyou saidwe all grew up with bad dad's icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    You're absolutely right!
  • BoostToChase

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    Mar 27, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
    NewNDiscreet said
    BoostToChase saidI hope science never conclusively finds out.


    I have a big problem with this statement...as a gay man I would like to know why I am this way and I would like science to tell me! Scientific knowledge and advancement should never be held back by someone's agenda.


    I feel you clipped my remark out of context. I went on to give a very good reason why I feel that way.

    Science should be held back by an "agenda" if that agenda can affect humans in a negative manner. Why do you think it is so expensive to get a new drug to market. Human test subjects are extremely difficult to acquire (and for good reason I should think). Now, to relate the two before it sounds like I'm building a straw man case. If we find out this is purely genetic, what then? What if your religion forbids homosexuality? Do you torture your child into being straight? Do you abort the child? How does the separation of church and state come into play? What if "gay" is then reclassified as a disease. Will humans then pursue a cure?

    This knowledge sets up a dangerous question. Curiosity has a price. It also has consequences. My opinion is based on just one facet.

    Academia will research the cause tirelessly. I just hope they end up fruitless. Their intentions are pure, but the end product may pervert the noble pursuit of knowledge.
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    Mar 27, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    blue_ahli saidwe are an advanced race...eventually we will evolve to grow our own uterus


    Ha Ha. Read the Wraeththu novels by Storm Constantine!
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    Mar 27, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    really... it's a choice ! icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 27, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidMy dad was my soccer coach. I built small pieces of furniture as a kid. I worked with him doing construction on homes in my teens. I went fishing with my grandpa.

    Those are the reasons I am athletic. Those are the reasons I like technical skills. Probably not the reasons why I like the cock. icon_lol.gif


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    I like what you have to say here, I should have added above that in my teen years I helped my dad doing a lot of construction and gardening, in this we found something in common, I learned and went on to do a hell of a lot of building, it became my art. and the sound of my hammering and the sounds of construction my music.

    But the main point is I'm just gay, early environment and later "straight" occupations of my time, has nothing to do with my being gay, its just parts of my life as a gay man. I quit asking why, Its just the way it is, I am gay and no need to separate gay from straight actions activities, no need to disect it.