Whole30(no grains, dairy etc) while building muscle?

  • Goldsplatter

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    Mar 27, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    I'm skinny fat, I've been lifting for probably 6 to 8 months now(doesn't feel like that long) and while I've seen some modest muscle gains, my stomach has only gotten a little better if it's gotten better at all, I don't even know. My muscle gains have definitely slowed since maybe November.

    I've decided to try whole30 at least the next month in order to have more energy and lose some fat. for those not familiar with the "diet" it's essentially no grains, dairy, legumes, starchy vegetables(corn, white potatoes) and no added sugar.

    I plan to do this in conjunction with cleaning up my lifting regimine, more consistency, cleaner reps(even if it means fewer), shorter breaks and plenty of sleep. Now it consists of chest, back and arms(emphasis on arms), I guess I'm fortunate to already have beefy legs so I don't bother with them besides spinning once or twice a week.

    I've also been doing 8 minute abs daily for about week(before that I was essentially doing glorified stretches, this shit actually burns!)

    Here's what I'm really not happy with

    1.My stomach: it's coated in fat and there's nothing more annoying than some bitch going "you're so skinny, you can eat whatever you want!" and you just want to lift you shirt and jump up and down.

    2.My neck: The reason I look so thin! I NEED to bulk up my neck, I've been doing shrugs for months, no progress in my neck, only my back.

    3.My arms: Have stopped growing it seems, I know I need to change my routine but I don't know what else to do with free weights.

    Ideally, I want to look like Chris Brown :-p, chris-brown-shirtless.jpg Not too muscled but with a huge neck, defined abs and decent arms, we have sort of similar body types but he's in perfect shape.

    I'm going on vacation in two months and need to be able to take my shirt off.


    TL;DR: I'm skinny fat,cutting grains and dairy and want to look like Chris Brown.
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:38 AM GMT
    Never heard of whole30, but just doing a quick google search, I see it looks similar to the Paleo diet. Before I say anything, let me just say I've been on a (more or less) Paleo diet for about 10 months (still going strong!) now. I had pretty much the same goals as you: lose a little more fat on my stomach and bulk up a little.

    Around Thanksgiving, I started Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength program while still eating completely Paleo: no dairy, sugar, grains, or starchy veggies/tubers. After about a month, I wasn't seeing as dramatic results as I'd hoped. I started incorporating milk and more fruit into my post-workout meal and I almost immediately began seeing a difference.

    Paleo is great as a maintenance diet, but it's been my experience (and the experience of some others at www.marksdailyapple.com) that you'll need to up your carb count if you're trying to bulk. The bulk of your carbs are eaten immediately post-workout. My CrossFit trainers make egg+sweet potato "muffins" for this. Also, milk is a cheap source of protein and makes a good post-workout shake mixed with whey protein.

    Anyway, those are my two cents. If you wanna learn more about my own little experience with Paleo + bulking, send me a message! icon_idea.gif
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    Mar 28, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    Why do you want to look like Chris Brown??? (Besides the nice big dick of course). ;)
  • Goldsplatter

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    Mar 29, 2011 2:31 AM GMT
    jeffy87 saidNever heard of whole30, but just doing a quick google search, I see it looks similar to the Paleo diet. Before I say anything, let me just say I've been on a (more or less) Paleo diet for about 10 months (still going strong!) now. I had pretty much the same goals as you: lose a little more fat on my stomach and bulk up a little.

    Around Thanksgiving, I started Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength program while still eating completely Paleo: no dairy, sugar, grains, or starchy veggies/tubers. After about a month, I wasn't seeing as dramatic results as I'd hoped. I started incorporating milk and more fruit into my post-workout meal and I almost immediately began seeing a difference.

    Paleo is great as a maintenance diet, but it's been my experience (and the experience of some others at www.marksdailyapple.com) that you'll need to up your carb count if you're trying to bulk. The bulk of your carbs are eaten immediately post-workout. My CrossFit trainers make egg+sweet potato "muffins" for this. Also, milk is a cheap source of protein and makes a good post-workout shake mixed with whey protein.

    Anyway, those are my two cents. If you wanna learn more about my own little experience with Paleo + bulking, send me a message! icon_idea.gif


    Thanks man, I typically haven't been eating carbs after lifting, usually just chicken and broccoli, maybe adding carbs(I can have sweet potatoes on whole30) will help me build. I'll see how it works for me in the next couple weeks and will definitely message you if I have any questions.


    Why do I want to look like Chris Brown? Because he's in great shape yet his body type is actually attainable, no point in idolizing over an out of control ripped muscle god, I just don't have the DNA for that. And he's sexy as fuck.