The "gay vaccine" ?

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    Mar 28, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
    ...of course there is none. But if you read this (short) article, it doesn't take much imagination to see what the effects of this over the next several decades of research could be.

    And it raises some interesting ethical questions, as it's no longer completely hypothetical.


    "Molecular regulation of sexual preference revealed by genetic studies of 5-HT in the brains of male mice"

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature09822.html

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    Mar 30, 2011 3:25 AM GMT
    In my humble opinion, science/mankind has arrived at the point where the natural turn of things is no longer acceptable. Human intervention in natural misadventure is beneficial and good, but who decides about changing genetic chains solely based on desire or opinion?

    We have been on a slippery slope for some time. That having been said, there was a very long period in my life where, had a vaccine been available, I would have been first in line.....again, you can blame that on human intervention in the natural scope of things, and man's opinion of what is/was right......................interesting topic Taz.........................keithicon_wink.gif
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:31 AM GMT
    The way that mice and human mate are very different. Mice rely a lot on their smell of a potential mate. Humans, especially man, are more visually oriented. Also the 5HT, or serotonin acts quite differently in the sex-center of the rodent brain. Just answer this: we know that consuming more tryptophan and/or carbs increases 5HT levels. So after you had a carb filled meal with perhaps a significant amount of turkey, did it make you want to fuck a girl more? If not, then the generalize-ability of this paper is limited, even if it's published in Nature.

    edit (an afterthought): If that's really the case, then the gay guys who are receiving SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) should be "cured" of their "gayness". But does it?
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:31 AM GMT
    LOL @ comparing mice to humans....

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    Mar 30, 2011 7:01 AM GMT
    all researchers in academia, including myself, agree that mice are the perfect model organism for humans.
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:02 AM GMT
    Interesting article.
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:08 AM GMT
    mrcurious saidall researchers in academia, including myself, agree that mice are the perfect model organism for humans.


    I disagree. I believe chimps are the perfect model organism for humans.

    Mice are used much more because they have a short life span, quick reproductive rate, inexpensive and populate the earth...but that does not mean they are the perfect model organism.

    While mice do have genetic similarity (chromosome 16 for example), they don't have the closest genetic similarity.
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:23 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ said
    mrcurious saidall researchers in academia, including myself, agree that mice are the perfect model organism for humans.


    I disagree. I believe chimps are the perfect model organism for humans.

    Mice are used much more because they have a short life span, quick reproductive rate, inexpensive and populate the earth...but that does not mean they are the perfect model organism.

    While mice do have genetic similarity (chromosome 16 for example), they don't have the closest genetic similarity.


    opinion respected. guess we can agreee to disagree on that point
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:30 AM GMT
    Mmmmmh, I've already read an article in another magazine (or website) about this.

    What I understood is that serotonin is already used in humans and if the substance had sexual orientation changing powers we'd already had heard about it.

    Also, sexual orientation is pretty much hardwired in an adult male brain, heck... Can mice's sexual attraction even be compared with what we know human sexual orientation in men to be? I would think not, but I might be underestimating mice complexity.

    I'm not holding my breath about this kind of research. I think the only benefit about it is that down the road -in a few years -yet another attempt at trying to change sexual orientation will have failed so gay advocates can add yet another footnote to their arguments in legal cases. icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:40 AM GMT
    I think homosexuality is natural and has always been part of nature. I don't think it's some threatening mutation or disease we gotta watch out for. If homosexuality was something horrible to the world, I would understand why people would want to "fix" it... but we're actually pretty good for the envioronment! icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 30, 2011 8:19 AM GMT
    I assume the scientists working on this study worked in Germany in the 40's, fucking assholes, I cannot believe anyone would waste money on such research, cure cancer and other diseases, intolerable pricks
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    Mar 30, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
    Maybe they'll take this and combine it with cloning, then clone all the naturally hot guys and make them gay. icon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 01, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidMaybe they'll take this and combine it with cloning, then clone all the naturally hot guys and make them gay. icon_twisted.gif


    ah, nobody'll ever beat you Paulie....just too hot bebe...................icon_wink.gif