"I preached against homosexuality, but I was wrong."

  • hartfan

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    Mar 29, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
    Murray Richmond:A recent poll shows a huge shift in American attitudes toward gay marriage, from a 32 percent approval in 2004 to 53 percent today.

    I am one of those people who changed their minds.

    In 1989 when I was ordained as a minister to serve a small church in North Carolina, homosexuality was an invisible issue. Gay rights were barely on the radar of mainstream churches. The idea of an openly gay pastor was beyond the pale. 
 I knew there were "gay churches," of course, but I did not believe one could be a practicing homosexual and a Christian. The Bible was straightforward on this issue. It all seemed incredibly obvious to me.

    But over the next five years, homosexuality not only became an issue -- it became The Issue. Sides were drawn, and those of us in the middle were pulled to either end. I was a biblical Christian, of the "hate the sin, love the sinner" crowd. And so it seemed clear that I could not fully accept, ordain and marry gays. If I was going to be forced to choose a side, that was mine.

    The truth is, I was put out that this was an issue. Feeding the hungry, preaching the gospel, comforting the afflicted, standing up to racial intolerance -- these were the struggles I signed up for, not determining the morality of what adults did in their bedrooms......
    Read the rest of this rather inspiring article.
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    Mar 29, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
    Awesome read! Thanks for sharing! I went through a similar time of discovery when I tried to reconcile my faith and homosexuality... in the process I also gave my (very religious) family food for thought, causing a change of heart in at least my youngest sister, a pastor's wife.
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    Mar 29, 2011 9:08 PM GMT
    From that article:
    "...those who felt it was a sin would bolt in a heartbeat if we ever allowed gay clergy or gay marriage. If they bolted, half our budget would go out the door."

    People wonder why organized religion is increasingly being condemned.
    There's the reason...it's too expensive to be "religious."
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    Mar 29, 2011 9:24 PM GMT
    If we maintained a position of non-acceptance, those who felt it was a sin would bolt in a heartbeat if we ever allowed gay clergy or gay marriage. If they bolted, half our budget would go out the door.

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    With distance, I could see the mean-spirited nature of the anti-gay movement, and the naked way large Christian organizations used the "gay threat" to raise money.



    Religion will choose money over any God or Creator. Every time. This is one reason I will never darken the doors of any church. Pro gay or not.

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    Mar 29, 2011 10:02 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidReligion will choose money over any God or Creator. Every time. This is one reason I will never darken the doors of any church. Pro gay or not.

    I dunno, this perplexes me. I have no religious beliefs. But I remember the first time I attended an MCC (Metropolitan Community Church) in Minneapolis, the AGC (All God's Children) on Park if you know it.

    And it came time for the Communion service, and gay and lesbian couple lined up in the aisles, holding hands to receive Communion. I had never seen that before, coming from a Roman Catholic upbringing, and I didn't know that could be possible in a church.

    I simply collapsed into tears. I had to get up out of the pew and go out into the lobby, and then downstairs to the men's room to rinse & dry my face.

    I didn't believe the religious things that they did, I still don't, but I witnessed such love that I could not bear it. It was another step in my gay education.

    I used to be a Lector at our local MCC in Fort Lauderdale, reading from the pulpit, using my trained speaking voice, and also as a Eucharistic Minister, because I wanted to participate. Like most things gay, they soon got it all screwed up, and since I hate disorder, I dropped out.
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    Mar 30, 2011 1:57 AM GMT
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    White4DarkerFL saidReligion will choose money over any God or Creator. Every time. This is one reason I will never darken the doors of any church. Pro gay or not.

    I dunno, this perplexes me. I have no religious beliefs. But I remember the first time I attended an MCC (Metropolitan Community Church) in Minneapolis, the AGC (All God's Children) on Park if you know it.

    And it came time for the Communion service, and gay and lesbian couple lined up in the aisles, holding hands to receive Communion. I had never seen that before, coming from a Roman Catholic upbringing, and I didn't know that could be possible in a church.

    I simply collapsed into tears. I had to get up out of the pew and go out into the lobby, and then downstairs to the men's room to rinse & dry my face.

    I didn't believe the religious things that they did, I still don't, but I witnessed such love that I could not bear it. It was another step in my gay education.

    I used to be a Lector at our local MCC in Fort Lauderdale, reading from the pulpit, using my trained speaking voice, and also as a Eucharistic Minister, because I wanted to participate. Like most things gay, they soon got it all screwed up, and since I hate disorder, I dropped out.


    I'm glad you got to experience that.

    Growing up, church was either boring or terrifying for me. My dad was agnostic, and so I only attended church when relatives visited. My dad would look at me and roll his eyes, as he knew I was as bored as he was. But if the preacher mentioned the word HOMOSEXUALS, I would turn beat red in Terror!! I feared the preacher might have some special powers to identify me as one. I didn't want the congregation wrestling me to the ground for a stoning or exorcism...lol. Oddly, this fear is not too far off from the religious right stirring up the hatred now.

  • Anto

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    Mar 30, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    not determining the morality of what adults did in their bedrooms

    I wish people would stop equating a homosexual relationship to what happens in the bedroom. Pro or con, it makes it sound like that is all a gay relationship is, something that happens behind close doors in the bed..