So I just watched Cat On A Hot Tin Roof...

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    Mar 30, 2011 1:35 AM GMT
    I had read the book and it ripped my heart out. However, the movie left out the MAIN element. The main character doesn't really confront the subject of homosexuality or how he's ashamed of it. It barely even touches base on it, IF that. I mean, the acting was beautiful but.....Ugh.......Damn you Elizabeth Taylor...
    BUT I definitely was captivated by Paul Newman's beautiful face and I definitely couldn't help but sympathize for his blue eyes....
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:53 AM GMT
    Film versions from that era of Tennessee Williams plays tended to whitewash the gay elements, like that other great Liz-Williams film collaboration, "Suddenly Last Summer." But a later Williams film adaptation, the 1964 film version "Night of the Iguana" with an even more famous cast, didn't beat around the bush about lesbianism, what with featured "Dark Shadows" player Grayson Hall playing the spinster chaperone being called out by Ava Gardner for lusting after the Lolita-ish character played by Sandra Dee-Carol Baker clone Sue Lyon. The awesome film trailer shows the taboo-busting lezzie reference, which destroys Grayson Hall's character, from :50 to 1:08 sec:

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    Mar 30, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidFilm versions from that era of Tennessee Williams plays tended to whitewash the gay elements, like that other great Liz-Williams film collaboration, "Suddenly Last Summer." But a later Williams film adaptation, the 1964 film version "Night of the Iguana" with an even more famous cast, didn't beat around the bush about lesbianism, what with featured "Dark Shadows" player Grayson Hall playing the spinster chaperone being called out by Ava Gardner for lusting after the Lolita-ish character played by Sandra Dee-Carol Baker clone Sue Lyon. The awesome film trailer shows the taboo-busting lezzie reference, which destroys Grayson Hall's character, from :50 to 1:08 sec:




    Of course, they're women. There isn't the stigma when two women kiss...
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI did not read the book but I did watch the movie (Cat On A Hot Tin Roof) for the first time last summer. I enjoyed it. Newman was a babe. icon_smile.gif


    Eeehhh, I don't know. I think you might give Paul N. a run for his money. ;)
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:21 AM GMT
    Did you watch it on DVD? I rented it last year and remember the extras having some commentary about how they were unable to deal with the issue of homosexuality at the time the film was made. It seems they said they replaced the homosexuality issue with the struggle between the father and son. I thought those father/son scenes were the least believable of the film, especially the big confrontation in the cluttered basement. The "Daddy didn't love me" theme didn't really fit with what was going on with Maggie and Brick's marriage.

    At the time of shooting the film, Elizabeth Taylor's husband, Mike Todd, died in plane crash.

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    Mar 30, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidDid you watch it on DVD? I rented it last year and remember the extras having some commentary about how they were unable to deal with the issue of homosexuality at the time the film was made. It seems they said they replaced the homosexuality issue with the struggle between the father and son. I thought those father/son scenes were the least believable of the film, especially the big confrontation in the cluttered basement. The "Daddy didn't love me" theme didn't really fit with what was going on with Maggie and Brick's marriage.

    At the time of shooting the film, Elizabeth Taylor's husband, Mike Todd, died in plane crash.


    Wow! That's some awesome information about the DVD. I unfortunately watched it on Netflix so was unaware of the bonus footage.
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:32 AM GMT
    guy94hg59 saidI unfortunately watched it on Netflix so was unaware of the bonus footage.

    Streaming? Do they allow you to watch the bonus footage?

    If you're a fan of film adaptations of Tennesee Williams' material, I'd recommend A Streetcar Named Desire. It's a great film. Suddenly Last Summer has some awesome moments, but I didn't love it as a whole.
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:39 AM GMT
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    guy94hg59 saidI unfortunately watched it on Netflix so was unaware of the bonus footage.

    Streaming? Do they allow you to watch the bonus footage?

    If you're a fan of film adaptations of Tennesee Williams' material, I'd recommend A Streetcar Named Desire. It's a great film. Suddenly Last Summer has some awesome moments, but I didn't love it as a whole.


    Yes it was streaming. Also I've read that book AND watched the movie. Blanche is a character roughly based off of his sister....I've read A Streetcar Named Desure, The Glass Menagerie, and Cat On A Hot Tin Roof
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:10 AM GMT
    I'm adding it to Netflix rn!
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    Mar 30, 2011 8:01 AM GMT
    "The Celluloid Closet" (book and DVD based on book) is worth a look. It offers a history of attempts by moviemakers to incorporate gay elements in films when such topics were taboo.

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    Mar 30, 2011 8:40 AM GMT
    I actually played Stanley Kowalski in the original stageplay "Streetcar Named Desire". The original Tennessee Williams play was much grittier, starker and more edgy than the film ever could be. Stanley, in the play, is very much a bad guy. He is charming and smart, but in a more lethal, sinister way in the play.

    But when they filmed the movie, they couldn't have the actors portray that, so it is nowhere near as good as William's original story. Same is true for "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof".

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    Mar 30, 2011 9:22 AM GMT
    Paul Newman is-was the equivalent to Elizabeth Taylor in looks for a man. Both stunning looking people.
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    Mar 30, 2011 11:32 AM GMT
    On the subject of gay themes, even though suppressed, we should also consider Marlon Brando's performance in "Reflections In A Golden Eye" with whom he co-starred with Elizabeth Taylor
    The story line is:
    "On a U.S. Army post circa 1948, a major who is an impotent, latent homosexual is married to an infantile birdbrain who never misses an opportunity to ridicule his masculine failings. He displaces his hostility by brutally flogging her horse and she retaliates by humiliating him before a houseful of guests, repeatedly slashing him across the face with her riding crop. She is also committing adultery with the officer next door, who's wife cut off her nipples with garden shears after the death of her baby. She has sought solace in the ministrations of her effeminate houseboy. The sixth character, coveted by the major, is a darkly handsome noncom, a voyeur and lingerie-fondler, given to nightly appearances as a peeping tom in the birdbrain's bedroom and daily sessions of horseback riding in the middle of the woods stark naked. "
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    Mar 30, 2011 12:34 PM GMT
    Damn...you scooped me....anyway, here's a clip.

    Carson McCullers' "Reflections in a Golden Eye"