More Dirty Tricks from Conservative Thinktanks

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    Mar 30, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
    Have a read of the following:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/education/30professors.html?ref=us
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidHave a read of the following:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/education/30professors.html?ref=us


    The better question is why is this considered a "dirty trick" and why the deliberately misleading title? Shouldn't there be greater transparency especially from presumably partisan academics? We saw similar issues with respect to climategate in the UK so this isn't exactly a new issue. Not quite sure how it is considered "intimidation" though especially since the research is being paid for by public funds.
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    Why do you ask?
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    Why do you ask?


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    Mar 30, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    since we are on the topic of profile pics...

    southbeach jane, why is your profile pic the death mask of someone laid out in a cheap funeral home pine box coffin?


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    Mar 30, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    Why do you ask?


    Well, a few days ago Tiny Tim made one of his many unprovoked, personal attacks on me and I chose to respond in kind. Within hours, he had removed all pics from his profile.

    Coincidence?

    Oh yes, I remember that. He insulted you in text so you copied and pasted a pic of him and a Downs child and remarked on the resemblance. You escalated when you didn't have to, especially in light of your constant whining about TOS.

    On the other hand, (speaking of hands) I suspect you miss fwapping off to his pics.

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    Mar 30, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]meninlove said...Oh yes, I remember that. He insulted you in text so you copied and pasted a pic of him and a Downs child and remarked on the resemblance. You escalated when you didn't have to, especially in light of your constant whining about TOS.

    On the other hand, (speaking of hands) I suspect you miss fwapping off to his pics.

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    Mar 30, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 said
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    Why do you ask?


    Well, a few days ago Tiny Tim made one of his many unprovoked, personal attacks on me and I chose to respond in kind. Within hours, he had removed all pics from his profile.

    Coincidence?

    Oh yes, I remember that. He insulted you in text so you copied and pasted a pic of him and a Downs child and remarked on the resemblance. You escalated when you didn't have to, especially in light of your constant whining about TOS.

    On the other hand, (speaking of hands) I suspect you miss fwapping off to his pics.

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    Anyone who makes fun of or uses a disabled child's image to make fun of someone else is beneath contempt.

    SB - You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Too bad about Tim's pics. He's adorable.
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    Mar 30, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 said
    meninlove said
    southbeach1500 saidWhy has Tiny Tim removed all his pics from his profile?


    Why do you ask?


    Well, a few days ago Tiny Tim made one of his many unprovoked, personal attacks on me and I chose to respond in kind. Within hours, he had removed all pics from his profile.

    Coincidence?





    Oh yes, I remember that. He insulted you in text so you copied and pasted a pic of him and a Downs child and remarked on the resemblance. You escalated when you didn't have to, especially in light of your constant whining about TOS.

    On the other hand, (speaking of hands) I suspect you miss fwapping off to his pics.

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    Of course I escalated it. I'm constantly pilloried on here, in violation of the TOS, and most times I don't even bother to respond. And YOU don't even call out these people who do this time and time again. I suppose it's fine with you that they launch unprovoked personal attacks on me because they happen to be aligned politically with you.

    But when I do respond, I'm not just gonna do so with a little slap on the wrist.

    And Tiny Tim DOES - in my opinion - look like a kid with Down's Syndrome.

    And the fact that it caused him to pull all his pics off the site is fine with me - there have to be consequences to launching UNPROVOKED personal attacks IN VIOLATION of the forum rules.

    And since the admin here NEVER replies back to me when I point these violations out, and the violators are NEVER punished by admin, then clearly, anything goes.

    So yes, I'm quite pleased that Tiny Tim took his profile pics down as a result of my response to his unprovoked, personal attack on me.



    You're an asshole. Do you know any kids with Down's?

    I worked at a summer day camp for kids with Down's when I was a teenager and they are some of the sweetest, most guileless people in the world.

    If you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.
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    Mar 30, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    Speaking of Conservative hens, if it's required I'll play your trollish games, SB

    "And YOU don't even call out these people who do this time and time again."

    Tit for tat, I don't see any conservatives on here calling you out when you do it.

    -Doug


    PS you don't know why he removed his pics, in answer to your self glorification.
    I'm thinking he might not have liked like idea of his pics getting copied and pasted out of his profile.


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    Mar 30, 2011 4:35 PM GMT
    "Ah, now you've come up with the party line. I'm sure we'll be hearing from Tiny Tim confirming that is exactly the reason."


    Your initial post on this topic was to draw him out for ridicule of some kind.

    The above quote (your post) is entirely stupid and rather puerile.



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    Mar 30, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    I removed my pics because I think clearly there is a serious *bug* in the RealJock forum software. I do not have my profile publicly available to protect my online privacy, and so it seems difficult to see how someone [southbeach] that I have *blocked* could access my profile photos.

    While I'm out and proud at work, I really don't find it ok for someone as obviously unstable as southbeach has access to personal information about me.

    I wrote to the site administrators, and they deleted the offending thread, but I did not receive any sort of response about how this eventuality came about. I also pointed out how *monumentally* offensive southbeach's comment was to people with Down's syndrome who are legitimate and worthwhile members of our society.

    I was hoping that we could have a serious discussion about the way certain conservative groups attempt to bully academics. It appears that we need to have another conversation about what constitutes acceptable online behavior.

    I have to admit, the point about conservatives is spot on. It's fairly disgusting that they don't call southbeach and his ilk out. [actually, I should say in fairness that CuriousJockAZ *has* rebutted TrueBlueAussie's insanity on occasion]

    For my part, while I care not a jot for the manifestly bizarre insults that have been thrown upon me, I find it profoundly disappointing that on a website that is supposed to empower gay people to be fit and healthy that some have such a negative attitude. Shame on you.
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI removed my pics because I think clearly there is a serious *bug* in the RealJock forum software. I do not have my profile publicly available to protect my online privacy, and so it seems difficult to see how someone [southbeach] that I have *blocked* could access my profile photos.

    While I'm out and proud at work, I really don't find it ok for someone as obviously unstable as southbeach has access to personal information about me.

    I wrote to the site administrators, and they deleted the offending thread, but I did not receive any sort of response about how this eventuality came about. I also pointed out how *monumentally* offensive southbeach's comment was to people with Down's syndrome who are legitimate and worthwhile members of our society.

    I was hoping that we could have a serious discussion about the way certain conservative groups attempt to bully academics. It appears that we need to have another conversation about what constitutes acceptable online behavior.

    I have to admit, the point about conservatives is spot on. It's fairly disgusting that they don't call southbeach and his ilk out. [actually, I should say in fairness that CuriousJockAZ *has* rebutted TrueBlueAussie's insanity on occasion]

    For my part, while I care not a jot for the manifestly bizarre insults that have been thrown upon me, I find it profoundly disappointing that on a website that is supposed to empower gay people to be fit and healthy that some have such a negative attitude. Shame on you.


    Given some of your own rather negative embittered comments towards those you disagree with, I find it somewhat hypocritical. I'll admit that southbeach's sometimes overtly partisan articles leave me uncomfortable (and his comparison to you with respect to the down's child which I didn't see but I assume to be true - and presuming if true, was not only unnecessary but should be criticized), but this seems tame compared to the far more numerous counter articles and vicious personal attacks on southbeach and others.

    "I really don't find it ok for someone as obviously unstable as southbeach has access to personal information about me." This could just as equally be a reminder that anyone should consider anything they post on the internet to be publicly accessible to all. As for "obviously unstable", I haven't seen it - sometimes lashing out? Definitely. You either don't bother to read or care to comment on some of the others who seem at best mentally challenged with whom you tangentially agree with.

    As for bullying academics? Right... your deliberately partisan attacks on what could just as equally be a discussion of transparency and bias of academia particularly by a vocal few in the social and climate sciences is equally telling.
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:37 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidOK, it's fine for Tiny Tim to write, out of the blue:

    Southbeach is old, ugly and has no friends which is why he posts here.

    No problem with that, huh? Not even a mild rebuke from any of you liberal hens, huh?

    So when I decide to actually respond (and normally I don't), all of a sudden I'm reprehensible.

    Let's see if I get the rules. A member can choose at what level of severity his unprovoked personal attack on another member will be, and the member who is attacked must limit himself in his reponse to not exceed the level of severity of the original attack?

    Sounds like something you liberals would go for - it's very E.U. in its construction.

    Anyway, he DOES look like a kid with Down's Syndrome. That's my opinion.

    Perhaps Tiny Tim actually has Down's Syndrome. I don't know if he does or he doesn't. But to me, he LOOKS like he does, but again, that's just my opinion.


    Let's be really clear. I don't give a rat's ass what you write about an adult on this forum, me or anyone else. I've been called plenty of names, but - it's an Internet forum - so I could give two shits. That's why I don't get involved in who calls who what.

    But by saying Tim looks like a Down's Syndrome child to insult him, you are actually insulting defenseless, innocent children who have done nothing to you. If you had a child with Down's, you wouldn't think it was funny to use it as an insult.

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    Mar 30, 2011 5:39 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidhis comparison to you with respect to the down's child which I didn't see but I assume to be true - and presuming if true, was not only unnecessary but should be criticized


    This is all I'm saying on this thread.
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    Mar 30, 2011 5:45 PM GMT
    southbeach jane makes mean cracks about down's children. he considers that ok.

    but

    jane whines and complains when i make a humorous comment about the curb side recycled o'cedar dust mop that he glues to his scalp?

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    Mar 30, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]southbeach1500 said...OK, so it's fine to write:

    "Southbeach is old, ugly and has no friends which is why he posts here."....[/quote]

    i'm guessing that this is a relatively accurate assessment of southbeach jane?

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    Mar 30, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidhis comparison to you with respect to the down's child which I didn't see but I assume to be true - and presuming if true, was not only unnecessary but should be criticized


    This is all I'm saying on this thread.


    OK, so it's fine to write:

    "Southbeach is old, ugly and has no friends which is why he posts here."

    That's just fine, huh?

    What about the old (of which there are many on here), ugly (yep, a lot of them on here too) and those with no friends (plenty to be found on RJ).

    Wouldn't Tiny Tim's attack be insulting to those people as well?



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    Mar 30, 2011 6:00 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidIf you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    Probably true, even more than when he was in his phase of saying I looked like a cancer survivor.

    But he has no class. What do you expect from albino trash?
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    If you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    I don't "talk shit" about any of you because I do not launch unprovoked personal attacks on RJ members.

    I rarely respond to all the unprovoked personal attacks made on me here.

    So stop with the "outrage" directed at me and instead direct it at the instigator.


    But that's just it: YOU are the instigator. YOU are the common denominator...no one else!

    I'm a centrist, and even I tend to find you beyond patronizing most of the time. Not that you have the platform to be...but nonetheless, you most certainly are.

    You're like the person who walks into a movie theatre, takes calls while the movie is going on...talks throughout the movie, and then when someone tells you to STFU, you hold up your hands and call it an unprovoked attack.

    Quit whining and reform yourself!

    Oh, and using a kid with down syndrome as your own personal device to mock someone's appearance is low, even for someone as out of touch as you! It's too bad you are so far out of touch because if you weren't, you'd understand how with you, this crap just builds and builds.

    You're no longer just the Conservative poster who likes to patronize people...you're now also the guy who apparently looks down on disabled children, and uses them to make fun of others! And I'm sure you're a littany of other things to most of the other posters around here.

    You know...maybe people should just keep provoking you: when you lash out, you really, REALLY make yourself look bad.
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    Christian73 saidIf you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    Probably true, even more than when he was in his phase of saying I looked like a cancer survivor.

    But he has no class. What do you expect from albino trash?


    Well maybe lose the albino trash remark I guess...the no class part though seems to be well in order!
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Lostboy said
    Christian73 saidIf you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    Probably true, even more than when he was in his phase of saying I looked like a cancer survivor.

    But he has no class. What do you expect from albino trash?


    Here's your chance mensinloves and Christian.... I've now got 2 liberals on here attacking me - unprovoked - so let's see what you have to say to them.


    Did you say Lostboy looked like a cancer survivor?

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    Mar 30, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    TrentGrad said
    southbeach1500 said
    Lostboy said
    Christian73 saidIf you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    Probably true, even more than when he was in his phase of saying I looked like a cancer survivor.

    But he has no class. What do you expect from albino trash?


    Here's your chance mensinloves and Christian.... I've now got 2 liberals on here attacking me - unprovoked - so let's see what you have to say to them.


    Did you say Lostboy looked like a cancer survivor?





    he did!
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    Mar 30, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    rnch said
    TrentGrad said
    southbeach1500 said
    Lostboy said
    Christian73 saidIf you want to talk shit about any of us, that's fair game, but you've reached a new low with this one.


    Probably true, even more than when he was in his phase of saying I looked like a cancer survivor.

    But he has no class. What do you expect from albino trash?


    Here's your chance mensinloves and Christian.... I've now got 2 liberals on here attacking me - unprovoked - so let's see what you have to say to them.


    Did you say Lostboy looked like a cancer survivor?





    he did!


    Then unless he is on crack, it should be apparent to him (southbeach) that the attack is most definitely not "unprovoked!"

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    Mar 30, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    TrentGrad saidI'm a centrist


    To quote another: "just because you say it is, doesn't make it true."