Homogenizing young men.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 11:19 AM GMT
    This is a rant... if you do not stereotype young men, then you can enjoy this rant on those who do.

    Homogenizing young men with anything needs to stop. Actually, homogenizing any type of age group in general needs to stop.

    EDIT: the word may is different and more proper when used in this context than will... saying "you will change your mind" makes it seem as though you have proven it and saying "you may change your mind" is implying that there is a possibility or chance of changing your mind.

    It is getting on my nerves and annoys me everytime I am in a thread and someone says "you are young... blah blah blah blah.." ...
    I honestly feel like telling them: "DUDE... shut up"...

    so, here I am telling those that stereotype us young men to shut up.

    Not all 18 year olds are immature, not all 18 year olds think with their dick.
    Some 18 year olds want a monogamous relationship and some don't. Accept the fact there is variety.

    So, not going to mention names, but you know who you are...

    You are not using any logic whatsoever when you tell me that I am still wet behind the ears, because frankly, the only one you can judge is yourself.

    I can tell you right now you ignorant, naive and stereotypical bastards...that you are completely wrong when you claim that I do not know what I want in life.

    Bring it on bi*ch... bring it on.

    /end rant
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM GMT
    I don't think when people 'criticise' you for your youth they are homogenising all young people - the way you come across, to those older than you, in a lot of areas does come across as quite immature/naive.

    Trust me on this because I WAS you at age 18, and it's something you can only see with hindsight. Do not take this as an attack because you are of course perfectly entitled to your views etc, but don't think when people take umbrage towards your opinions they are tarring all young people with the same brush. They aren't, they are just speaking from EXPERIENCE.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 2:44 PM GMT
    Criticizing others can work constructively or destructively. Criticizing one's knowledge based on their age, young or old is plainly ignorant.....and Mohammed, you have nothing to worry about....you are wise beyond your years and a great addition to this site....................Keithicon_wink.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    Pure saidI don't think when people 'criticise' you for your youth they are homogenising all young people - the way you come across, to those older than you, in a lot of areas does come across as quite immature/naive.

    Trust me on this because I WAS you at age 18, and it's something you can only see with hindsight. Do not take this as an attack because you are of course perfectly entitled to your views etc, but don't think when people take umbrage towards your opinions they are tarring all young people with the same brush. They aren't, they are just speaking from EXPERIENCE.


    Thing is, you are wrong to judge me as an 18 year old based on when YOU were 18 years old because we both were raised differently, with different values, with different outlooks on life.

    I am a different person than you. Some men don't change their views (like my parents)... what are you going to tell them huh?

    They always wanted to get married at a young age and they did and they are still married.... living proof of two people who knew what they wanted in life since they were young...

    I know what I WANT in life as well... does not necessarily means I will get it, but I want it. I want a LTR that is monogamous... I believe I will find it in my early years and what is giving me hope is my firstrelationship expereince where it was a little taste of a monogamous relationship.

    So, please, don't tell me I will change my mind because you can't.. I don't know how I can put it in simpler terms.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    _Mohammed_ saidHomogenizing young men with anything needs to stop. Actually, homogenizing any type of age group in general needs to stop.

    It is getting on my nerves and annoys me everytime I am in a thread and someone says "you are young... blah blah blah blah.." ...
    I honestly feel like telling them: "DUDE... shut up"...

    so, here I am telling those that stereotype us young men to shut up.

    Not all 18 year olds are immature, not all 18 year olds think with their dick.
    Some 18 year olds want a monogamous relationship and some don't, Accept the fact there is variety.

    So, not going to mention names, but you know who you are...

    You are not using any logic whatsoever when you tell me that I am still wet behind the ears, because frankly, the only one you can judge is yourself.

    I can tell you right now you ignorant, naive and stereotypical bastards...that you are completely wrong when you claim that I do not know what I want in life.

    Bring it on bi*ch... bring it on.

    /end rant
    You're only 18, so you shouldn't be using correct spelling, punctation, and grammar.
    Act your age young man! icon_razz.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 31, 2011 11:28 PM GMT
    cold saidI can only really echo what Pure and Yourname have said. I'm 22 and, although I'm still young, I look back to when I was 17/18 and I was a pretty different person. People go through changes in their life and what was once true for them, may not remain so. That's not to say that you will change or that change and experience is always for the better.

    I agree with you that there is a lot of nonsensical hysteria about 'young people' here on the forums. But, just know there are some people who are genuinely trying to give you an alternative perspective that they have experienced first hand.

    Also, the word 'homogenising' is awkward for this context. I know I'm terrible, I just couldn't resist. *bites lip*



    homogenizing or homogenising... both are acceptable.


    ho·mog·e·nize Verb /həˈmäjəˌnīz/ listen

    homogenising present participle; homogenizing present participle; homogenised past participle; homogenized past participle; homogenized past tense; homogenizes 3rd person singular present; homogenises 3rd person singular present; homogenised past tense

    -> Subject (milk) to a process in which the fat droplets are emulsified and the cream does not separate
    homogenized milk
    -> Prepare a suspension of cell constituents from (tissue) by physical treatment in a liquid
    -> Make uniform or similar


    wait... what were you saying again?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 01, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    The truth is Mohammed, although 18 year olds are different, some are more mature, some are immature, no matter how different they are, they are ALL 18 years old. There is no replacement for experience, no intelligence or knowledge that can replace that.

    You might not want to accept it now, but know that you're far from the only one, I was a very different person at 18 and some of the things I believed then were foolish. Among those beliefs was that people shouldn't judge me by my age. Sure it shouldn't be the only thing to judge me by, but your age will always tell you so much about you and provide a lens to interpret your beliefs.

    You can say that you know what you want in life, but you've barely begun yours, embrace the uncertainty of life. I know it sucks to know that your beliefs could be washed away by the tide tommorrow, but that's the way life is and its what age does. Be like the humble fern that bends to the wind and survives, not the tree that stubbornly resists and gets knocked down.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 1:36 AM GMT
    russnipp saidThe truth is Mohammed, although 18 year olds are different, some are more mature, some are immature, no matter how different they are, they are ALL 18 years old. There is no replacement for experience, no intelligence or knowledge that can replace that.

    You might not want to accept it now, but know that you're far from the only one, I was a very different person at 18 and some of the things I believed then were foolish. Among those beliefs was that people shouldn't judge me by my age. Sure it shouldn't be the only thing to judge me by, but your age will always tell you so much about you and provide a lens to interpret your beliefs.

    You can say that you know what you want in life, but you've barely begun yours, embrace the uncertainty of life. I know it sucks to know that your beliefs could be washed away by the tide tommorrow, but that's the way life is and its what age does. Be like the humble fern that bends to the wind and survives, not the tree that stubbornly resists and gets knocked down.


    Or the tree that resists and succeeds. In other words, I decide how I want to view life and how I want to live my life... you can determine whether you agree with it or not, but you can't say to me that I will change my mind because you changed your mind.

    We are unrelated and thus our minds are unrelated as well.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 5:57 AM GMT
    The beauty of this forum is that if you're sick of seeing what someone has to say, you can ignore him. It's a tool.. Use it if you want.

    I agree that there are certain people here on RJ that are quick to dismiss the younger members, just as there are younger guys who are offensive to the older members here on RJ.
    Creating this thread makes you look quite typical for an 18 year old. You think you know everything.
    If you think you're so mature, then let your actions show how mature you are.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidYou are only eighteen? Wow, I thought you were in your mid-twenties. Not to say that you look older than eighteen but the manner in how you express yourself exudes a level of sapience that typically is not seen in the younger crowd. Sorry, I guess that last sentence sounds like a generalization. However, I meant it as a compliment. There also seems to be a gentleness about you as well.

    Gentleness, really? Thread after thread, all I see is truculence.


    In what context am I being vicious?... you need to look at that first before waving it like a flag in the wind for everyone to see.

    I am vicious against those who are vicious to me.

    I have been attacked in threads for posting my opinion because others feel that I am 18 and I should not hold that opinion.

    Where you say I am vicious, I say I am determined to fight the battle.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 6:02 AM GMT
    Ermine saidThe beauty of this forum is that if you're sick of seeing what someone has to say, you can ignore him. It's a tool.. Use it if you want.

    I agree that there are certain people here on RJ that are quick to dismiss the younger members, just as there are younger guys who are offensive to the older members here on RJ.
    Creating this thread makes you look quite typical for an 18 year old. You think you know everything.
    If you think you're so mature, then let your actions show how mature you are.


    where do you get the impression that "I think I know everything"?

    Is stating your opinion and defending the indirect substitute for "I think I know everything" ?

    You know, all these ideas and thoughts and lessons some people are bringing forth have been discussed with me when I was 13 years old by my dad.

    Is it that hard to believe that young men in general have the capability of understanding what society defines as "wise taechings" ?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 9:47 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ said
    russnipp saidThe truth is Mohammed, although 18 year olds are different, some are more mature, some are immature, no matter how different they are, they are ALL 18 years old. There is no replacement for experience, no intelligence or knowledge that can replace that.

    You might not want to accept it now, but know that you're far from the only one, I was a very different person at 18 and some of the things I believed then were foolish. Among those beliefs was that people shouldn't judge me by my age. Sure it shouldn't be the only thing to judge me by, but your age will always tell you so much about you and provide a lens to interpret your beliefs.

    You can say that you know what you want in life, but you've barely begun yours, embrace the uncertainty of life. I know it sucks to know that your beliefs could be washed away by the tide tommorrow, but that's the way life is and its what age does. Be like the humble fern that bends to the wind and survives, not the tree that stubbornly resists and gets knocked down.


    Or the tree that resists and succeeds. In other words, I decide how I want to view life and how I want to live my life... you can determine whether you agree with it or not, but you can't say to me that I will change my mind because you changed your mind.

    We are unrelated and thus our minds are unrelated as well.


    Of course you decide how you want to live your life (assuming free will exists, but lets not open that can of worms), but you don't exist in a state of perfect and absolute knowledge and opportunity. Your decision to pursue monogamy (and I have no opinion either way on how good a choice it is) was made based on the way you perceive human relationships and human nature as a whole. The more you see of humanity, the more your opinions will change. There is no possible way for you to know and see enough at 18 to form an eternal, immutable opinion.

    You and I may be "unrelated" but our minds dont exist in a perfect vacuum, the same forces that pulled me to change my mind; age, experience, and knowledge WILL work their magic on you to. Does this mean you will change your mind about this? Perhaps not, but you will change your mind about a lot of things.

    Besides....time isn't kind to monogamy, either the perception or the practice thereof.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 10:46 AM GMT
    Me through the ages

    Teens: Awkward

    Early Twenties: Hyper/Foot In Mouth

    Mid Twenties:Tamed/Dulled/Jaded

    Late Twenties(present): Renewal
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 10:58 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ saidI know what I WANT in life as well... does not necessarily means I will get it, but I want it. I want a LTR that is monogamous... I believe I will find it in my early years and what is giving me hope is my firstrelationship expereince where it was a little taste of a monogamous relationship.

    So, please, don't tell me I will change my mind because you can't.. I don't know how I can put it in simpler terms.


    I didn't say anything about you wanting monogamous relationship - just that your whole attitude and the way you come across about things reminds me of myself at your age, and I now see with experience and hindsight that it wasn't a good way to be.

    You jumping the gun, making assumptions about what you think I meant etc - well, you've just illustrated my point beautifully. You in 10 years time will NOT be the same as you are now - it doesn't mean you will change all your views. But hopefully you will have grown up a little bit. I don't know how I cann put it in simpler terms.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 11:02 AM GMT
    I think the point is Mohammed, that guys older than you know what it's like to have been your age. But you cannot know what it's like to be older. And as galling as it may be, sometimes you just have to accept that older more often than not means wiser.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 11:05 AM GMT
    PureYou jumping the gun, making assumptions about what you think I meant etc - well, you've just illustrated my point beautifully. You in 10 years time will NOT be the same as you are now - it doesn't mean you will change all your views. But hopefully you will have grown up a little bit. I don't know how I cann put it in simpler terms.

    I think the point is Mohammed, that guys older than you know what it's like to have been your age. But you cannot know what it's like to be older. And as galling as it may be, sometimes you just have to accept that older more often than not means wiser.


    See, that's where I disagree with you.

    You make it seem as though you are certain I will be different. Thing is, you shouldn't say I am going to...more proper terms is "you may end up changing your mind"... but saying "you WILL" makes it seem as though you have proven it.

    There is no need to say something that in essence, can't be proven to begin with.

    You think I am not "grown-up", and while that may be true in a physical sense, I highly doubt it is true in a mental sense.

    and to your second paragraph in the quote above, I say that it is completely wrong for you to assume that older men know what it is like to be my age.

    If a teenager grew up in a poor country with few resources for food, can a man who lives in a rich area of the united states say "I can relate" to the person when I was his age?

    NO - Of course not.

    I was raised up differently than you were or anyone else for that matter. The only person who can say "I have been there, done that" is a person with the same background as me, living with the same parents, who was taught the same things when he was a child... which I have not met yet.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 11:20 AM GMT
    let's just say that I "may" change my mind, but I most likely won't.

    I may change my mind, or I may end up staying with the same mindset as I have now.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 11:54 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    _Mohammed_ saidlet's just say that I "may" change my mind, but I most likely won't.

    Oh my God! We've had a break through! icon_biggrin.gif

    That is always the most important thought to have in life, no matter where or what stage you're at. If you're not at least open to the possibility that new information might change your mind, you're not learning....and the only people I know for sure aren't learning today are.... icon_cry.gificon_cry.gif

    So I'm thrilled that you've opened the door a crack. You never know what light will shine through that crack, or how that light might change how you see things inside your world.


    I am def. open to saying I "may" change my mind, just as I "may" end up being even more strict about my views when I am older.

    icon_smile.gif

    so yea...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    _Mohammed_ saidI am def. open to saying I "may" change my mind, just as I "may" end up being even more strict about my views when I am older.

    icon_smile.gif

    I can only concede that that is a distinct possibility. My personal experience with my own rigid (self-limiting) values makes me worry that you would not be happier, though. I trust you'll know the right way to go for you in the end, M....you do seem to know yourself pretty well. As long as you're still letting new information 'in', a better future is always possible.


    yea definitely!

    icon_razz.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
    I can't help but imagine young guys being drenched in milk when I read the title "homogenizing young men"
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    Bale02 saidI can't help but imagine young guys being drenched in milk when I read the title "homogenizing young men"


    you do know that homogenizing also means to make one or to make the same?

    Wonder how many more people are unaware of that.


    Ex: homogeneous solution - a solution that is composed of one or more parts that are all of the same kind and has one appearance throughout.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 02, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
    No no, I realize it also means that. As I recall, it was an intro the chemistry question