JAKEBENSON saidThese videos are AMAZING. From just looking at them it looks like the average Israeli is more in favor of defending Arabs and Muslims than the average American is. I saw the American version of this and many more Americans let discrimination happen.
Before the psychotic "I HATE ALL ISRAEL" fanatics come in to ejaculate their obsessive compulsive Tazmanian devil fits all over the thread, I just want to say this: Israelis don't hate Muslims and they don't hate Arabs. The 10% which are ULTRA-ORTHODOX Jews in Jerusalem do. They're the problem and they're as much of the problem as Hamas are.
True_Blue_Aussie saidRacism is not a one way street, nor is it the first time in history when the persecuted, become the persecutors, the hunters, the pack of wolves.
realifedad said
This is great !! and exactly how I thought the average Jewish person is toward the arabs,
realifedad saidJAKEBENSON saidThese videos are AMAZING. From just looking at them it looks like the average Israeli is more in favor of defending Arabs and Muslims than the average American is. I saw the American version of this and many more Americans let discrimination happen.
Before the psychotic "I HATE ALL ISRAEL" fanatics come in to ejaculate their obsessive compulsive Tazmanian devil fits all over the thread, I just want to say this: Israelis don't hate Muslims and they don't hate Arabs. The 10% which are ULTRA-ORTHODOX Jews in Jerusalem do. They're the problem and they're as much of the problem as Hamas are.
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This is great !! and exactly how I thought the average Jewish person is toward the arabs, Its just a shame that the Zionist Fanatics like Lieberman and his pushing for settlements along with NetanYahu going along with those far righters, fucks up negotiations for peace by continueing the settlement building, over and again I've said the everyday jewish person doesn't share the Fanaticism that blocks peace by stepping on the rights of Palestinians by continuing settlement construction and other violations of their rights. thank you for posting this, and I wish that you all would not confuse disgust for Zionist Fanatics such as C4, (who try to make right and defend, settlements and other violations of Palestinians rights), with being anti semitic. You mentioned the ULTRA ORTHODOX Jews as the problem but you need to add those like Liebermand and the C4 types who make the rest of the good and decent jews look bad, because the good ones are quiet and the bad ones are out there in everyones face finding every way possible to defend displacing Palestinians for settlements. So we call them out !!!. There needs to be more moderate jews calling them out too.
Do any of you have vids of Jewish young people demonstrating against NetanYahu ? Wouldn't it serve the Jewish cause better if you promoted good will between Jews and the Palestinians instead of defending the likes of C4 ? Is there any defense for such things as his Shitzpah to actually suggest and defend his suggestions that the Gazans weren't hungry enough to need the flotilla on which some fanatics killed 9 people, after the fanatics started the aggression ? do yourselves a favor and distance yourselves from such idiots as C4, with friends like him who needs enemies for your cause. ? Think about it !!! Think about not jumping to the conclusion that speaking out in direct terms to counter C4's fanaticism against the rights of Palestinians is not Anti semitic. Grab every opportunity to consider how the palestinians might feel while being put in such deperate positions because of the Zionist Fanatics. then befriend those Palestinians and call out wrongfull Zionist acts against them. You Do this and you will see peace !! keep quiet and defend C4's Ilk and you will be lumped in with him. IS THIS REALLY SO HARD TO SEE? HIS MINDSET DOES HARM TO PEACE !!!
dglater saidrealifedad saidJAKEBENSON saidThese videos are AMAZING. From just looking at them it looks like the average Israeli is more in favor of defending Arabs and Muslims than the average American is. I saw the American version of this and many more Americans let discrimination happen.
Before the psychotic "I HATE ALL ISRAEL" fanatics come in to ejaculate their obsessive compulsive Tazmanian devil fits all over the thread, I just want to say this: Israelis don't hate Muslims and they don't hate Arabs. The 10% which are ULTRA-ORTHODOX Jews in Jerusalem do. They're the problem and they're as much of the problem as Hamas are.
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This is great !! and exactly how I thought the average Jewish person is toward the arabs, Its just a shame that the Zionist Fanatics like Lieberman and his pushing for settlements along with NetanYahu going along with those far righters, fucks up negotiations for peace by continueing the settlement building, over and again I've said the everyday jewish person doesn't share the Fanaticism that blocks peace by stepping on the rights of Palestinians by continuing settlement construction and other violations of their rights. thank you for posting this, and I wish that you all would not confuse disgust for Zionist Fanatics such as C4, (who try to make right and defend, settlements and other violations of Palestinians rights), with being anti semitic. You mentioned the ULTRA ORTHODOX Jews as the problem but you need to add those like Liebermand and the C4 types who make the rest of the good and decent jews look bad, because the good ones are quiet and the bad ones are out there in everyones face finding every way possible to defend displacing Palestinians for settlements. So we call them out !!!. There needs to be more moderate jews calling them out too.
Do any of you have vids of Jewish young people demonstrating against NetanYahu ? Wouldn't it serve the Jewish cause better if you promoted good will between Jews and the Palestinians instead of defending the likes of C4 ? Is there any defense for such things as his Shitzpah to actually suggest and defend his suggestions that the Gazans weren't hungry enough to need the flotilla on which some fanatics killed 9 people, after the fanatics started the aggression ? do yourselves a favor and distance yourselves from such idiots as C4, with friends like him who needs enemies for your cause. ? Think about it !!! Think about not jumping to the conclusion that speaking out in direct terms to counter C4's fanaticism against the rights of Palestinians is not Anti semitic. Grab every opportunity to consider how the palestinians might feel while being put in such deperate positions because of the Zionist Fanatics. then befriend those Palestinians and call out wrongfull Zionist acts against them. You Do this and you will see peace !! keep quiet and defend C4's Ilk and you will be lumped in with him. IS THIS REALLY SO HARD TO SEE? HIS MINDSET DOES HARM TO PEACE !!!
I stopped reading your post after you said "Zionist Fanatics"
I swear man its people like you, with the mind set like yours on both side who are the obstacle of peace, I'm sure in your mind you think you are right and you are for peace, but its just that childish inappropriate language, and name calling that you do all the time, which causes bitterness for each other.
You called C4, Me, and Lieberman a "Zionist Fanatic" I am a member of Meretz, a lefty/liberal political party in Israel, Lieberman's party is in the opposite side of the political spectrum, I have no Idea where C4 stands in Israeli politics, but the fact remains your attitude resembles a witch hunt against Jewish people who do not see eye to eye with you on the issues...
It's like the fucking idiots who label all Muslims in the same category... Muslims are so diverse in every way possible to be diverse, from their skin color to their nationality. From political opinion to the the way they see God and the Koran, (Sunni, Shiite, Zaidi, Ismaili and Sufism) yet... in their had if a muslim person does not see eye to eye with them on some issues they are a... Pick one: Islamic Extremist, Terrorist, Muslim Extremist, Jihadist....)
If you want to personally attack people of the Jewish faith, then you are achieving that goal. However, if you want to peace peace and corporation between 2 nations that are blood related, then you need to change the way you do things.
my 2cents, Tnx.
dglater saidCould you summarize what and who do you believe a Zionist is, I'm truly trying to understand your point of view, Who is a Zionist in your view, and what qualifies one to be a Zionist.
realifedad saiddglater saidCould you summarize what and who do you believe a Zionist is, I'm truly trying to understand your point of view, Who is a Zionist in your view, and what qualifies one to be a Zionist.
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A Zionist in its pure and rightful form is one who believes in a Jewish homeland, there is nothing wrong with jewish people wanting and looking forward to having a homeland
a ZIONIST FANATIC is a zionist whose mindset has it that they should get that homeland at any cost, no matter whose rights they trample on to get their homeland, They will use and defend whatever tactics it takes. To me Lieberman is an example of a ZIONIST FANATIC, he has pushed for settlement building, for removing palestinians, and he believes there is nothing at all wrong with it.
C4 is one also, he defends every wrongful act against the Palestinians according to his posts,
now you see that there is a difference between my giving hell to fanatics who trample over Palestinians rights and how I have no problem whatever with the majority of Jewish people who may or may not be pro jewish homeland or Zionists, but the Fanatics give Zionism a very bad name.
I am hoping that you can see that I am not in the least prejudiced agains Jewish people, I just think its very wrong to kick someone off their land, then build a home on it as a zionist fanatic would do, there is no excuse for doing that.
You would find me very friendly to you, but if you supported Leibermans idea for annexing settlements that sit on land that belongs to palestinians, then we could not get along. do you see the difference ?
Pouncer saidc4I suspect it won't surprise many that RLD has also come out saying that Jews are Christ killers.
(Followed up by pouncer saying that at least Muslims revere Christ as a prophet.)
A direct, bold-faced lie.
Caesarea4 said
JakeBenson> it nudges realifedad's rhetoric slightly towards being more focused and relevant on what he dislikes.
It just allows him to mask his own extremist hate with a faux qualifier.
Caesarea4 said
JB> ULTRA-ORTHODOX Jews in Jerusalem... They're the problem and they're as much of the problem as Hamas are.
False equivalence.
These Jews do not advocate the genocide of Arabs or Muslims, unlike Hamas.
These Jews do not (with only a handful of noteable exceptions - over decades) perpetrate attacks on civilians.
Unlike Hamas terrorism (which RLD and his ilk seek to rationalize and justify rather than condemn).
JAKEBENSON saidCaesarea4 said
JakeBenson> it nudges realifedad's rhetoric slightly towards being more focused and relevant on what he dislikes.
It just allows him to mask his own extremist hate with a faux qualifier.
Possibly, but still what he says is more accurate than just a blanket statement of "Zionists" overall. That's like when I go off on Muslims I REALLY mean FUNDAMENTALIST Muslims. So I try to say that instead so I don't isolate the majority of Muslims who are normal people. Same with Christian fundamentalists.Caesarea4 said
JB> ULTRA-ORTHODOX Jews in Jerusalem... They're the problem and they're as much of the problem as Hamas are.
False equivalence.
These Jews do not advocate the genocide of Arabs or Muslims, unlike Hamas.
These Jews do not (with only a handful of noteable exceptions - over decades) perpetrate attacks on civilians.
Unlike Hamas terrorism (which RLD and his ilk seek to rationalize and justify rather than condemn).
Don't "false equivalence" me mutha fugga. I'm a Jew and I'll Jewbacca at you! The Ultra-Orthodox Jews are AS MUCH as a problem as the Hamas in as much as both groups do NOT want the other side to be part of the country. Hamas is far more violent than the ultra-orthodox Jews are. But their mentalities are similar.
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