Well, He wouldn't be getting my vote

  • free_mind12

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    Apr 03, 2011 8:32 AM GMT
    Obama Set To Launch Re-Election Bid, AP Sources Say

    I have yet to find a true and fair democracy in this world. Who knows maybe it exists somewhere I've never been before!icon_wink.gif

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/02/obama-set-to-launch-re-election-bid_n_844006.html
  • rnch

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    Apr 03, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
    it will depend on who "the loyal opposition" has running against him.

    if the GOP nominates that Religious Right tookus huck-a-beezzz or the female huckster sara P...then President obama will get MY vote for re-election.
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    Apr 03, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
    All of the possible GOP candidates who might have actually had a chance have shot holes in their boats. If the GOP doesn't present a credible candidate, then I just won't vote at all.
  • GQjock

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    Apr 03, 2011 3:20 PM GMT
    Mowagali saidAll of the possible GOP candidates who might have actually had a chance have shot holes in their boats. If the GOP doesn't present a credible candidate, then I just won't vote at all.


    Problem is ..... your nonvote becomes a vote for exactly who you DON'T WANT by default
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 03, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
    It's WAY to early to really have any sort of accurate barometer on what could happen in 2012. Obama appears vulnerable, but even a strong Republican candidate will have a tough time unseating him. It can be done, but it won't be easy.
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    Apr 03, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    Mowagali saidAll of the possible GOP candidates who might have actually had a chance have shot holes in their boats. If the GOP doesn't present a credible candidate, then I just won't vote at all.


    Problem is ..... your nonvote becomes a vote for exactly who you DON'T WANT by default


    I'd rather go ahead and take a chance with the man currently in office than with any of what I've seen so far from the GOP.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 03, 2011 3:39 PM GMT
    Mowagali said

    I'd rather go ahead and take a chance with the man currently in office than with any of what I've seen so far from the GOP.



    Then you need to vote for him. Every vote counts
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    Apr 03, 2011 3:43 PM GMT
    Frankly I'm so disgusted by the two parties being bought and paid for by the corps. lobbying efforts and 'contributions', that I wish for a viable independent to really make a difference.


    Our US politics is totally corrupted and led by the nose by big moneyed interests, actually its more than likely always been this way. I would gladly vote for an independent, but I sure don't want to fuck up and thereby put in the likes of Huckabee or Palin.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 03, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    realifedad saidFrankly I'm so disgusted by the two parties being bought and paid for by the corps. lobbying efforts and 'contributions', that I wish for a viable independent to really make a difference.


    I agree with you here. If there ever was a time when a strong solid Independent candidate could have a fighting chance -- this might just be that time. Americans are fed up with BOTH parties. They are tired of having to vote for "The Lesser Of Two Evils". Who knows, maybe there is a shocker in store in the coming months -- a leading Democrat or Republican who breaks from their party and announces their candidacy as an Independent...One can hope!
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    Apr 03, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.
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    Apr 03, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.



    I don't think anyone wants "some Tbaggin nut" as President. However, it should be noted that not ALL Tbaggers are "Nuts".
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    Apr 03, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.


    The only type of viable candidate would come from the Tea Party or with similar roots. The issue is that as an independent movement, there are none others with the force and fury (and funding). Even if you're right about the Tea Party being funded by the old conservative apparatchiks (even if they support such things as gay marriage, against the Patriot act, pro legalization of drugs), there aren't any other movements really organized enough (and I use the term loosely) to get registered.

    Tea Party movement candidates however have been cannibalizing establishment Republicans particularly at state level races - and that's something to watch. If they don't get the results they want (and by any metric, even the largest proposed cuts are measly relative to projected deficits), that makes a third party far more likely and popular.
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    Apr 03, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
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    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.


    The only type of viable candidate would come from the Tea Party or with similar roots. The issue is that as an independent movement, there are none others with the force and fury (and funding). Even if you're right about the Tea Party being funded by the old conservative apparatchiks (even if they support such things as gay marriage, against the Patriot act, pro legalization of drugs), there aren't any other movements really organized enough (and I use the term loosely) to get registered.

    Tea Party movement candidates however have been cannibalizing establishment Republicans particularly at state level races - and that's something to watch. If they don't get the results they want (and by any metric, even the largest proposed cuts are measly relative to projected deficits), that makes a third party far more likely and popular.


    Considering that you can't even find a Tea Bagger who isn't a wanton hypocrite, a stunning dumbass, or a raving psychotic, your wish will most likely go unfulfilled.
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    Apr 03, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.


    The only type of viable candidate would come from the Tea Party or with similar roots. The issue is that as an independent movement, there are none others with the force and fury (and funding). Even if you're right about the Tea Party being funded by the old conservative apparatchiks (even if they support such things as gay marriage, against the Patriot act, pro legalization of drugs), there aren't any other movements really organized enough (and I use the term loosely) to get registered.

    Tea Party movement candidates however have been cannibalizing establishment Republicans particularly at state level races - and that's something to watch. If they don't get the results they want (and by any metric, even the largest proposed cuts are measly relative to projected deficits), that makes a third party far more likely and popular.


    Considering that you can't even find a Tea Bagger who isn't a wanton hypocrite, a stunning dumbass, or a raving psychotic, your wish will most likely go unfulfilled.


    Yeah, because the alternatives have been so much better? icon_rolleyes.gif - I'm not hoping for an independent run. I'm indifferent - 2010 was seminal however. The sweeps at the state level will likely bring far better and more polished candidates in the years ahead. I do not believe that the Tea Party Movement is flash in the pan, though I'm sure you disagree.
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    Apr 03, 2011 5:21 PM GMT
    Oh and for the record, currently on the betting markets, that a Democratic candidate wins in 2012 is current at 62%:

    http://intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=639648
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 03, 2011 5:27 PM GMT
    I am totally fed up with both the democrats and the republicans. It is time for a differant political party to be voted into office. We cannot get any worse than we are right now. It is time for a real change.
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    Apr 03, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.


    What about some of the third party candidates?

    Oh right... just kidding.
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    Apr 03, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    Mowagali saidAll of the possible GOP candidates who might have actually had a chance have shot holes in their boats. If the GOP doesn't present a credible candidate, then I just won't vote at all.



    Sorry, but that is just lazy. If you want to send a message that you don't like either the Democrat or the Republican than vote for a third party candidate or independent or leave that part of the ballot blank and fill out the rest of the ballot.
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    Apr 03, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
    Not lazy; more like protesting. I do see your point, but I highly doubt that there will be a credible third party candidate.
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    Apr 03, 2011 7:09 PM GMT
    riddler78 said I do not believe that the Tea Party Movement is flash in the pan, though I'm sure you disagree.
    In its current form? oh yeah.. it'll be gone in '12.

    Two out of three American voters are saying so.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 03, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    The tea partiers biggest mistake is allowing their movement to get infested with all those racist, homophobic, fundamentalist lunatics that want to turn America into a theocracy.
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    Apr 03, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe tea partiers biggest mistake is allowing their movement to get infested with all those racist, homophobic, fundamentalist lunatics that want to turn America into a theocracy.
    And it was all because their insatiable appetite for power...


    You sell yourself to the devil, you reap the reward/consequences.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 03, 2011 7:19 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.



    I don't think anyone wants "some Tbaggin nut" as President. However, it should be noted that not ALL Tbaggers are "Nuts".





    LOL.
    Name one who isn't nuts.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 03, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    realifedad saidCuriousJ I sure hope as you say, that some independent comes forward and shakes the hell out of this f'd up system we've got. and not some Tbaggin nut either.



    I don't think anyone wants "some Tbaggin nut" as President. However, it should be noted that not ALL Tbaggers are "Nuts".

    Oh, there you go again.
    It's only the "fringe" tea baggers who are nuts, right?
    Well, news flash: they're ALL on the fringe.





    YOU'RE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LOL.
    They're on beyond the fringe.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 03, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe tea partiers biggest mistake is allowing their movement to get infested with all those racist, homophobic, fundamentalist lunatics that want to turn America into a theocracy.




    LOL.
    You just defined ALL Teabagger Republicans.